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is a regular 12 mile journey enough for a diesel vRS (to avoid dpf issues)

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Hi guys, need some advice. Looking into ordering a vRS, likely early in the new year and want a bit of advice.

The diesel vRS appeals to me with regards residual values (important as I'll be a low deposit PCP customer), mpg/tax costs etc. However I Anticipate my annual mileage will only be circa 10-12k with no one regular journey longer than 12 miles.

I know these short journeys (in diesel terms) will do nothing for mpg but will it give me dpf problems? The 12 mile journey is my commute to work. As a shift worker at least one journey either way on each day is a constant 70mph cruise for 10 of the 12 miles, will this be enough?

I know that I'm on annual mileage better suited to petrol but the diesel seems to be a better ownership prospect, especially as I'll be financing the car. At the end of the PCP term I'm not sure what I'd likely do, I used to change cars regularly but I've kept my last motor 4 years (a long time for me), the long term residual on a petrol worries me.

Thoughts?

Just make sure you hit the rev limiter in every gear and is should be fine :-)

In my experience, no problem. I'm a low mileage driver (work from home) and have never had any DPF problems, that includes the potentially more problematics PD engines in the earlier cars.

I'm in the same boat. My commute to work isn't far at all but I've still had a diesel VRS. The guy at the dealership just said take it out on a Sunday afternoon and give it a good run every now & again.

Whilst my commute isn't too long I do a 150 round-trip for the football quite regularly anyway so it should be ok.

Just keep on top of it and take it on a good 50 mile run every now & again.

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The dealers of I've spoke to (both Skoda and whilst shopping for a kia for my old man) seem very non committal in regards to dpf's and the problems short journeys can cause.

I too take the odd longer journey for football away games and if/when I do get a vRS I do expect to use it more often than my current car as it'll be the defacto family car rather than the god awful people carrier we use now for such journeys

My commute is 5 miles each way, never saw the DPF light once on my mkII in 40k miles, done nearly 3k miles in my mkIII so far with no issues. But I do do around 350-400 non-work miles a week so that may help.

I'm only doing 6k a year and have had no issues. From what you've said you should have none either. Go for it!

6-8K per year in a BMW 320D and I get the DPF warning once or twice per year. My wife's Megane is even more frequent but she only drives School and shopping runs. Both can be cleared easily by a 10 minute drive on the motorway @ 70mph in 4th/5th gear. This is one of the smaller reasons I ordered a TSI rather than a TDI, the main reason being that I simply do not do the miles to justify the benefits of a diesel vs benefits of petrol. Spending £24K on a car and then griping over a few hundred pounds worth of fuel each year seems silly to me, but I have low mileage requirements and it is a private purchase. High-milers and Company purchasers play are completely different game.

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I am not an expert on PDF issues and probably would only consider the deisil if I done at least 10000 per year, I would not consider dpf if only using it on short town journeys as it will eventually lead to blockage of dpf.

 I would not consider dpf if only using it on short town journeys as it will eventually lead to blockage of dpf.

 

Really, you seem pretty sure?

I do 6.5 miles each way to work and an 18 mile run to the airport twice a month.

2300miles on the clock, 2 regens that I know of (cooling fans continue running after engine turned off) and no dpf problems

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Seems like I may well be OK then. Certainly given me something to think about.

Seems like I may well be OK then. Certainly given me something to think about.

 

DPF issues are massively overplayed on this forum, it's largely a non-existent problem on the modern DPF equipped cars. I do 6000 miles a year, most of it is nipping to the shops with my wife driving, it probably never gets warm or over 2000RPM with her driving. We've been like this with coming up to our 3rd DPF equipped car, no problems whatsoever so far.

!2 miles! I do 17 each way on cycling  my bike and only just get warm, you can get a PCP on any car not just new, I would get a used TSI and save thousands, the new VRS of any sort are way too expensive, or wait till the discounts come, and trust me they will come 

 

A dpf on a 75,000 mile golf MK6 ------------ so not hearsay, it would not even turn over till it was removed DSC00222.jpg

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@bluevrs2, I'd love to bike to work but the main and only real direct route is a death trap road, I'd never attempt it on my bike, especially not at the times I travel (5am & 11pm). At least one of my journeys each day also includes the school/nursery run so two Wheels ain't an option.

I appreciate the new vRS isn't perhaps the bargain that the mk2 was but I want the benefit of a low payment, warrantied and service packaged car. I may or not keep it it at the end of the PCP deal but the prospect of a vRS diesel offering all these things at circa £250 a month with a small deposit seems excellent value to me.

My journeys are 7am and 7pm, and my kids are adults now , if you are not going to keep it it will be fine, if you were running it like that for 5 years it would need a DPF  delete as it would be coked, ( one mate a VW techie, one a car salesman, and one who owns a dealership, so I know what I am talking about) give it an Italian tune once a month then to keep things tickety  boo  :happy:

My journeys are 7am and 7pm, and my kids are adults now , if you are not going to keep it it will be fine, if you were running it like that for 5 years it would need a DPF  delete as it would be coked, ( one mate a VW techie, one a car salesman, and one who owns a dealership, so I know what I am talking about) give it an Italian tune once a month then to keep things tickety  boo  :happy:

 

Because car salesmen can be trusted and actually know something about the cars they sell? Hilarious!  Thumbs for the whole "I have a mate who knows" line though, not heard that one before. :)

Because car salesmen can be trusted and actually know something about the cars they sell? Hilarious!  Thumbs for the whole "I have a mate who knows" line though, not heard that one before. :)

They can be trusted that's why I have bought and sold 10 cars from my dealer mate, who now says steer well away from Japanese as he has had so many warranty claims . Just because you deal with a main dealer who does not know his are from his elbow, does not mean my mates do not know what they are talking about, or the head VW technician . I will have a different view if one of you diesel owners kept a car for 6 years or over with a dpf and only did short runs and was not coked up 

Anyone seen a Watchdog episode featuring the clogged up DPFs of 5 year old cars?

It was on newer ones that were glogged, they didnt get to 5!

Thoughts?

 

Buy the petrol and have a bigger smile. :)

They can be trusted thats why I have bought and sold 10 cars from my dealer mate, who now says steer well away from Japanese as he has had so many warranty claims . Just because you deal with a main dealer who does not know his are from his elbow, does not meen my mates do not know what they are talking about, or the head VW technician . I will have a different view if one of you diesel owners kept a car for 6 years or over with a dpf and only did short runs and was not coked up 

 

 

It was on newer ones that were glogged, they didnt get to 5!

 

Eh?

I'm prepared to be suitably castigated, but what the hell are you guys going on about?

 

I've bought a TDi....  40 mile trip to work each way so whatever this DPF is doesn't sound like it will effect me, but should I think twice about going two minutes up the road to buy a loaf of bread?  I could ride a bike, but I'm fond of my beer/fags/beer gut.

It's madness everybody far too worried about DPF's. I had a 2004 1.9CDTI Vectra (I know, a Vauxhall!) before my VRS which had 70k on the clock. I knew the previous owner and their travelling was mostly if not all short journeys (7-8 mile at most). They had bought the car at 20k and had it up to 70k.

 

In the 9 months or so I had there wasn't a single DPF issue (there were many other issues but nothing relating to the DPF!).

 

If people are so worried make sure you take it and blow it out on a Sunday* afternoon.

 

(*other equally suitable afternoons are also available).

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Because car salesmen can be trusted and actually know something about the cars they sell? Hilarious!  Thumbs for the whole "I have a mate who knows" line though, not heard that one before. :)

 

You shouldn't tar everyone with the same brush. I'm a car salesman but have my Lvl 3 IMI mechanics qualification as well as working a technician at main dealer for 13 months prior to working in Sales so i'd say I know a thing or two about what im selling.

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