I was in at the dealer to pick up my car after getting some warranty paintwork done on my Mk 1 VRS and spotted a red Monte Carlo 105 Tdi sitting in the showroom. I was quite impressed with it and I suppose drooling a little when the sales chap piped up that although it's only 105 BHP it's  "nice little thing and very economical", he then went on to say if that wasn't enough I could have it re-mapped before I collect it if I wanted. (presumptuous beggar eh?).

So, my question is this, what can it be re-mapped to, still be quick, reliable and economical. With as little reliability issues as possible?

It could be a distinct possibility if I could get it even close to a standard Mk 1.

Brimmaaaaaaaaaaaaa :yes: Ask Brimma

 

I think around the 130-140 mark

Brimmaaaaaaaaaaaaa :yes: Ask Brimma

I think around the 130-140 mark

Around the 130 mark with a remap from Shark

Around the 130 mark with a remap from Shark

I knew you'd know

Will that enable retention of the general running costs, mpg etc... Brimma?

Is the Dealer going to Re-map and then cover the Warranty on the engine because Skoda will not?

 

http://skoda.co.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/Brochures/Warranty-Booklet-single.pdf

page 6.

 

george

Will that enable retention of the general running costs, mpg etc... Brimma?

That depends how much you enjoy your remap I suppose

If I drive it as I drove it pre-remap it produces very similar figures

If you take advantage of the map it will sip a bit more fuel, but you're going to have a much bigger smile on your face

Is the Dealer going to Re-map and then cover the Warranty on the engine because Skoda will not?

 

http://skoda.co.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/Brochures/Warranty-Booklet-single.pdf

page 6.

 

george

 

Hmm.. good point and one that was not discussed! It was just mentioned as a general "You could get it re-mapped", I would need to ask the question I think for clarification before doing anything.

The other thing that was mentioned as a good way of affording a new car every three years was a PCP payment plan, but to be honest by this time I wasn't taking in what he said, I was to busy drooling over the car. Anybody use one of these plans? He mentioned something about avoiding the final payment by just trading in, but what if you want right out of that way of funding the car, how do you go about that?

Pcp is what im on and dont think I would do it again paying 2k despoit then 260 a month for 3 years and still have 5k to pay at the end :(.

What the dealer is saying is most likely put a despoit down (i.e money+car) then pay monthly payments for 3 years and then try and use the retained valve of the car minus the left over finance to fund another car. In the long haul you'll pay more and if you dont pay final payment or take out another car you have given them in excess of 6/7k for driving a newish car for 3 years and have nothing left but a hole in ya pocket

If I was you I would either wait for the mk3 to come out, get one of those, wait for the mk3 and get a mk2 then or get a mk2 thats done a few thousand miles. BUying isnt worth the lose of 2k the second you sign the paperwork.

Out of the way of funding well you either pay all, get finance from them then pay it off after a few months, get finance from bank. Its up to you how you go about this.

He would have suggested finance as it makes skoda and him money

1.6TDI seems good by the impression i get from reading other memebers experiences.

Edited 5 December, 201312 yr by leevrs180

Give it a drive as standard. I've not driven a mk1 VRS, but plenty of diesels (Renault 19 Td, dreaded Rovers, wife's Golf Bluemotion, Octavia PD140, Superb Greenline 105, BMW 535d, other general stuff as hire cars etc) and the Monte isn't too shabby.

In relation to thraping the tail off it, it does run out of puff, if really pushing on, into higher revs, but the gearing and power/torque band mean it's pretty quick getting there. I'm convinced it's quicker than the published 0-62 time...

PCPs are a good way of buying a car if you get the right deal.

The monthly payments work out cheaper as you're only paying interest on the payments whilst on the 3 or so year plan.

You only pay the rest of the interest if you decide to buy the car outright at the end of it.

My old car was in negative equity, French biscuit tin, good HDI engine though and I got a cracking deal on my Monte.

£100 deposit and the same monthly payments as my last car with 3 years free servicing.

If, like me you get a bit bored with your current car, it's a good way to get a new car for not a lot of money.

You pays your money and you takes your choice.

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Edited 6 December, 201312 yr by Glyno

Always nice to see a figure like this - my 45 mile journey to Skegness today just keeping in the flow of traffic (and yes, I'm aware that that is a totally unreliable computer figure, before anyone mentions it)

 

 

Pcp is what im on and dont think I would do it again paying 2k despoit then 260 a month for 3 years and still have 5k to pay at the end :(.

What the dealer is saying is most likely put a despoit down (i.e money+car) then pay monthly payments for 3 years and then try and use the retained valve of the car minus the left over finance to fund another car. In the long haul you'll pay more and if you dont pay final payment or take out another car you have given them in excess of 6/7k for driving a newish car for 3 years and have nothing left but a hole in ya pocket

If I was you I would either wait for the mk3 to come out, get one of those, wait for the mk3 and get a mk2 then or get a mk2 thats done a few thousand miles. BUying isnt worth the lose of 2k the second you sign the paperwork.

Out of the way of funding well you either pay all, get finance from them then pay it off after a few months, get finance from bank. Its up to you how you go about this.

He would have suggested finance as it makes skoda and him money

1.6TDI seems good by the impression i get from reading other memebers experiences.

I was under the same impression until we bought the second hand car for my Wifey...I did tell her to go to the dealer and get her brand new one but she wasn't so keen due to the costs...So we bought VW Polo 1.2 for £1,600 (52 reg, only 63,000 on the clock) and thought that was good deal until something went wrong with the car and we had to spend over £1,600 (up to date) fixing it...I then said to her that with all that money we spent on this Polo you could've had a brand new car and 1/3 already paid off (wanted to get her CitiGo) and guess what...She regrets that she didn't listen to me and we are getting her brand new one and have a test drive booked on sunday. My point is that I rahter pay more money for that peace of mind in case soemthing goes wrong as the car is under the warratny and I know I will loose the money as soon as I sign the paper work but some cars hold their value much better than others...!!!

 

This 0% deal Skoda currently have is brilliant imo if you don't have all the cash to buy it. We plan to pay around £3,000 deposit to keep the monthly payments down and then save to buy the car at the end as we both know she will like it and wans to keep it longer.

 

Matty

I was under the same impression until we bought the second hand car for my Wifey...I did tell her to go to the dealer and get her brand new one but she wasn't so keen due to the costs...So we bought VW Polo 1.2 for £1,600 (52 reg, only 63,000 on the clock) and thought that was good deal until something went wrong with the car and we had to spend over £1,600 (up to date) fixing it...I then said to her that with all that money we spent on this Polo you could've had a brand new car and 1/3 already paid off (wanted to get her CitiGo) and guess what...She regrets that she didn't listen to me and we are getting her brand new one and have a test drive booked on sunday. My point is that I rahter pay more money for that peace of mind in case soemthing goes wrong as the car is under the warratny and I know I will loose the money as soon as I sign the paper work but some cars hold their value much better than others...!!!

 

This 0% deal Skoda currently have is brilliant imo if you don't have all the cash to buy it. We plan to pay around £3,000 deposit to keep the monthly payments down and then save to buy the car at the end as we both know she will like it and wans to keep it longer.

 

Matty

 

I have suffered similar problems in the past and that is what makes PCP seem attractive, I can get a new car which will be in warranty during my tenure of ownership, but most important to me is something the salesman commented on that I hadn't thought of before.

He asked me, how long do I keep my car?

My answer was, between six months and three years, as I get bored very quickly.

He replied, that due to that, any car I bought would rarely be paid off and therefore mine, with the profit (retained value) if paid in full, always being paid forward into my next car, and that is basically what you do with PCP arrangements.

The upside would be that I could have a brand new car every three years, stipulate that a service contract is included for that time period and basically only pay for tyres, insurance and road tax outside of the monthly payment. 

Now that I have thought about it, he described what I do with cars anyway, in as much as I never keep them long enough that I would need to get particularly worried about the final payment. I always trade in.

I could do this until I am three years away from retirement and then pick a car (reliable and cheap to run) that would stand up to the decrease in income that retirement inevitably brings and at the end of the agreement just keep it and pay it off.

By that time all I am going to be interested in is reliability, economy and mobility, I will have a three year old car that I know and (hopefully) trust. Speed, handling, kudos, peer pressure, all the stuff that drives us when we are young just won't matter.

Edited 7 December, 201312 yr by Coffin Dodger

Try using carwow for a quote also, I saved £70 a month (over 2k over the 36months) on my new octy vrs pcp and free servicing. Having to travel but my local 'Ayrshire' dealer couldn't compete or come close.

Couldn't have put it better myself Coffin Dodger.

3 years ago we got a Citreon C1 VTR for the Missus for £200 deposit and £110 a month for 2 years on a PCP.

Just before the 2 years were up we traded it in for a brand new Fiat 500 Lounge, her favourite car and after the settlement figure was paid, we had a £1000 to put down on the Fiat with another PCP deal.

So after an initial deposit of £200, we made £1000 to put down on the next one and with a bit of haggling we got a Fiat 500 Lounge for the price of the Pop which was the base model.

You can't tell me that PCPs aren't a good idea if you can make them work with the dealer.

Couldn't have put it better myself Coffin Dodger.

3 years ago we got a Citreon C1 VTR for the Missus for £200 deposit and £110 a month for 2 years on a PCP.

Just before the 2 years were up we traded it in for a brand new Fiat 500 Lounge, her favourite car and after the settlement figure was paid, we had a £1000 to put down on the Fiat with another PCP deal.

So after an initial deposit of £200, we made £1000 to put down on the next one and with a bit of haggling we got a Fiat 500 Lounge for the price of the Pop which was the base model.

You can't tell me that PCPs aren't a good idea if you can make them work with the dealer.

 

My only wish? I wish I had found out about these PCP deals years ago, 

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