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Clutch Change to SMF step by step guide? Sticky?

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Hi All,

 

I have a genuine g60 flywheel new bolts and a VR6 sachs clutch, All i need now is a step by step guide? Anyone know what tools i will require?

can i do it alone?

need to do it this weekend... as its on its last legs and cant afford to pay anyone to do it...

 

any help would be greatly appreciated!!

 

cheers paddy

I've been hoping to get my clutch done this weekend, with the same setup you're looking at.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?2703042

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/transmission-removal-mk4-vw-jetta-tdi-golf-new-beetle/

 

This video looks very helpful.

 

Where did you end up locating the genuine flywheel from?

 

I think I maybe a little optimistic to try and get the clutch done this weekend. I need to get the cam belt done as well and that's the priority.

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I bought a good used one from a guy on here. Really helpful sells lots of them, the clutch i got from car parts for less for £66.99 and bolts about £20!

 

Paddy

Holly smokes! £66 quid. Do you have the link and the name of the guy you got the flywheel from?

 

J

is quite a straight job,but you need patience...for a DYIer I rate it as a 7/10 dificulty,as a certified mechanic I can say that

Few tips from me....search on google "1.8t replacing clutch" and you'll find many forums with step by step procedure,but noone of them is complete,but reading them (most important) together will cover everything.

Concentrate more on bolts and not shredded them and less on torque numbers

 

And one more thing ...remove that flange (we call it that way) on the car and drop the tranny after,will be much easyer and then put the tranny back and then the flange

 

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I've been hoping to get my clutch done this weekend, with the same setup you're looking at.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?2703042

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/transmission-removal-mk4-vw-jetta-tdi-golf-new-beetle/

This video looks very helpful.

Where did you end up locating the genuine flywheel from?

I think I maybe a little optimistic to try and get the clutch done this weekend. I need to get the cam belt done as well and that's the priority.

That is by far the best explanation of dual mass flywheel system I've seen, I've been in the motor trade for 20years that video is spot on.

Well found cox377

Edited by chrisw4266

Common conversion seems to be G60 flywheel and VR6 clutch. This gives you single mass and lighter clutch pedal and can handle more power do a search on this forum loads of people have fitted this.

OT: the DMF is not that bad...a just remove the tranny for a fork replacement and found my DMF and clutch in top condition.

Was replaced 37.000 mile ago

 

So don;t blame the DMF is not made of cheese :)

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i will let you know how mine goes tomorrow

!

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What size torx bit are the flanges on the gearbox and if i have to remove the hib nuts what size are they?

 

Cheers

 

Paddy

M10 on the flanges (not TXs),and nuts are 30mm,but you don't need to remove the axels

Edited by fordfan

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Yeah Clive said you can do it without removing the drive shafts. So m12 allen key right? Or just a plain old nut?

 

Cheers paddy

no,not allen....this is called an M type

 

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aaaand I'm sorry is an M10 not 12

 

so the size is M10,I was confused and I remembered that smaller engines like 1.6 have M8.

 

 

M type is a male type and has 12 points Spline_XZN_M10.jpg

TX type is a male type and has 6 points T30_Torx.jpg

Allen is a male type and has 6 poits (hex shape) 12196010.jpg

E type is a female type and has 6 points 11pc_torx_socket_bits_set_with_holder_fe

 

These are he most common types of special tools and every DIYer must have them

Edited by IulianE

Common conversion seems to be G60 flywheel and VR6 clutch. This gives you single mass and lighter clutch pedal and can handle more power do a search on this forum loads of people have fitted this.

I have been struggling to locate a flywheel at sensible money. 127 is so cheap lll

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can i get away with a stubby version of this?

 

 

 

Cheers,

Paddy

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like this:

 

How did it go?

 

I got my cambelt done!

 

I did it on my L&K! Had to take the bloody head light out to get the intercooler pipe and washer fluid bottle out!! It turned into a bit of a pig and some how took me 10 hours from start to finish! The Elegance I have was no where near as tricky for initial strip down.

 

Getting the washer bottle out, even with the headlight out, was like trying to get a washing machine through a cat flap!

 

J

Edited by cox377

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Yeah,

 

All went well managed to compete the job without removing the drive shafts. Both cups on each side need to come off, and the drivers lower ball joint need to be split to give an extra inch or to for clearance to re attach the cup. 

 

The drive shafts were M12 so were the DMF bolts.

 

May do a complete write up if people are interested.

 

Thanks,

Would be really good. Thank you.

 

Also, do you have a name for the guy you got the flywheel from

 

Best

 

James

dont DO IT!

i put this exact same kit on my mk4 golf & it fubar'd the bearings due to the smf not absorbing the vibrations etc. caused damage on input shaft bearing also

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Hi,

 

Well its a tried and tested conversion on here? ECS do a kit so cant be that bad, the 02j gearbox was originally fitted with a SMF in the vr6 and abf 2.0 16v gti mk3 golfs so cant see why it would be a problem?

 

anyone else have any thoughts on this?

 

cheers paddy

I was thinking the same as paddy to be honest.. maybey you just got unlucky and your crank bearing was on its way and solid fly finished it off... 

I've been hoping to get my clutch done this weekend, with the same setup you're looking at.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?2703042

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/transmission-removal-mk4-vw-jetta-tdi-golf-new-beetle/

This video looks very helpful.

Where did you end up locating the genuine flywheel from?

I think I maybe a little optimistic to try and get the clutch done this weekend. I need to get the cam belt done as well and that's the priority.

Crapcable in wasn't the SMF that killed your bearings.

This video explains why a DMF to SMF will have no adverse effect or increased vibration. Great vid for explaining how DMF works.

Edited by chrisw4266

Dmf is simply just 2 sprung flywheels together to aid gearchanges ect but to me they are lazy, expensive and pointless... And weak due to the fact there is more to go wrong or fail.!!

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