I've always thought my 2006 L&K estate felt somewhat lacking in performance.

Although the 0-60mph times are in accordance with the book figures it always feels like foot flat to the floor through the gears lacks any urge.

To add to the mix I've always found there to be little engine braking effect.

Which all gives the impression of a sh@gged out engine with an elastic feeling response from the accelerator pedal.

However with cruise control enabled I feel a stronger (de)acceleration by using the speed up/down button than I do by flooring the pedal or lifting off altogether!

Could the accelerator pedal sensor be at fault?

A generic OBD scanner shows no faults.

Maybe cruise control has a greater control of the actual fuel injection compared to manual pedal operation???

I've read the sensor position can be read real time but I don't have access to VCDS and the throttle reset operation didn't seem to do anything noticeable.

There's also a squeaky whistle from the turbo, on the way up passing 1800rpm, not the usual hissing spoolup sound and a wheezy whoo when you let off the pedal to change gear, sounds like the second part of an owl wit-woo call if you make the sound by inhaling through puckered lips.

As a newish owner coming from something less agricultural it's difficult to dismiss these noticeable traits as par for the course.

It goes, it stops, so I suppose I shouldn't be overly concerned, just thought I'd share my experiences.

''I've always thought my 2006 L&K estate felt somewhat lacking in performance.''
 

 

The reason for that will be the....... 1.9TDi.

 

 

In all seriousness, I alternate my driving between 1.9TDI (Altea) and 2.0TDI (Octavia), the 1.9 TDI goes well, but doesnt push you back in your seat at all, it pulls strongly but dont get that turbo kick.

 

With the CC it can feel as though the car pulls harder when increasing the speed, but I think the speed adjustment via the end of the CC stalk is a bit coarse and less refined than when pushing the pedal and think this makes it feel as though the car pulling stronger.

 

Thats my take on it, but other people may feel differently.

 

Lewwy

Edited 13 February, 201412 yr by Lewwy

I also have a 2006 PD105 Estate. Mine will happily hold itself against a Mk4 Golf GTi

....non turbo.....lol

Mine also seems to have little engine braking, cruise seems to brake better.

A remap will bring the power to around 140bhp/260-270ft/lb and will feel a lot better! I have a friend with a remaped Mk5 Golf (same engine as mine, BXE i think?) and it performs very nicely!

What kind of MPG are you seeing?

As said, the 2.0 will go a lot better, but i prefer my little 1.9

To be fair I saw a milkfloat giving a 2.0 GTi mk4 Golf a run for its money! It has got to be one of worst cars to have the GTi badge, 115bhp is weak.

 

The mid range on the 1.9TDi is pretty good and will keep up with quite a few cars.

 

I spose having had a Fabia vRS, Bora Sport TDi previously the 105 TDi doesnt feel particularly quick to me.

 

 

Lewwy

2.0?? No no no! This was a 1.8 non Turbo 125bhp!

My other car is a Mk3 Golf 16v 150bhp and the Octy doesn't feel as slow as i think it should in comparison...

And for info, a GTi badge doesn't, or at least shouldn't, give performance indication. It is only the end users perception that means it should be fast

Thanks for the comments guys.

Cars eh, tut!

A shark remap will work wonders.

Don't forget the brake upgrade and rear antiroll bar.

I think the cruise effect is because cruise is using WOT to build speed as quickly as possible, hence it feels a lot quicker.

I'd love to go stage 1 on the wife's MK5 PD105, but she keep saying no. It would immediately need a set of 16" wheels though as 312s won't fit over the 15s.

MPG is mid to high 40's as indicated by car.

What is WOT?

Brakes are fine and it already has a rear RARB.

It's running the sports suspension option on 225/45/17s so always struck me as an odd combination, very chuckable round bends but a gutless engine so going anywhere quickly involves carrying high corner speeds to make up the straight line defecit... a bit like 125 racing.

I was getting far better than that (at least 50, more often nearer 60 MPG) from my 1.9 PD Golf, but then I was intentionally driving it as economically as possible.

 

Could be there's something not quite right? Mind you, the rest of your description sounds like pretty normal behaviour from the 1.9PD.

MPG is mid to high 40's as indicated by car.

What is WOT?

Brakes are fine and it already has a rear RARB.

It's running the sports suspension option on 225/45/17s so always struck me as an odd combination, very chuckable round bends but a gutless engine so going anywhere quickly involves carrying high corner speeds to make up the straight line defecit... a bit like 125 racing.

So you got the Pegasus alloys? These look nice!

In my Altea (1.9 TDI 105) it averages 46 - 47 MPG, that is prob 70% urban, 30% at 50 - 60 mph. On a holida motorway run 3 people and hoilday clobber it does approx.55 mpg, (these figures are worked out fill up to fill up - so real figures not trip computer fantasy) and I would say that it must way less than the Octavia as Octy feels alot more solid and heavier.

 

Seems to be a lot of people on here quoting in the high 60's mpg out of their Octavia's which seems optimistic to me, I would say averaging mid to high 40's is realistic for everyday knocking around at this time of year. So wouldnt be too concerned at figures like that.

 

 

Lewwy

Probably just quoting the dashboard figure.  Which I also do. 

It is apparently possible to calibrate your dash display using VCDS to give a higher degree of accuracy.  Which I have not.

My test is, can I get to my sisters in Frankfurt from after topping off at the French coast ?  That's less the reserve, or much of it.  My normal route is pretty much 666km or 414miles.

I normally set cruise control at 80-85ish.  Sometimes, given decent weather and traffic, I only have to disengage it at the A3/A4 interchange at Koln , the A4/A44 Aachen interchange and the mess at Lille. 

Usual average speed is low 60's, and average consumption, a claimed high 40's, 46 or 47mpg. Lowest I recall is about 42mpg.

It was pretty normal for milage to improve noticeably once on the French stuff.  I don't think there is quite so much difference these days.  I suspect they cut their fuel with nearly as many additives as the Brits do now.

I get 51mpg max! Averaging 38-42mpg according to the dash....BXE engine.

Yes it has the Pegasus alloys.

MPG seems par for the course on up hill down dale twisties with little chance to use cruise control for more than a couple of minutes at a time.

I estimate 10 miles per litre of dino if driven economically.

Here's what I'm averaging from my 1.9 (105) PD driven mostly on dual carriageways and motorways at 70mph during my daily 100 mile round trip commute. She's in for a service on Monday, so I'll see if there is any increase in mpg.

Currently on 85000 miles, so barely run in! I've got four years to go before I retire and fully intend to keep hold of her until then and beyond.

I'm a fussy buggah when it comes to looking after my cars and a great believer in changing the oil regularly (every 8k) in order to keep problems at bay.

A cracking car which has restored my faith in the automotive industry after owning several troublesome cars (VW & Honda included).

Skoda forever? Probably.

What is WOT?

Wide Open Throttle, although it doesn't work the same way as it does in a petrol engine, the effect is that it pins the throttle open almost instantly and the result is you feel like you're accelerating a lot more quickly.

My wife's mk5 is averaging around 52mpg on a crap commute from Leicester to Burton - I think that's amazing considering the traffic through the villages at school drop off time.

I understand the mechanics re diesel vs petrol.

I just thought the cruise control delivers more diesel than foot to the floor manual acceleration.

Somebody on here posted about his accelerator pedal only showing 80% odd when fully depressed whilst hooked up to VCDS and I figured that would explain things if the ECU only gave a limited fuel supply with manual throttle as compared with 100% when under its own control.

In all probability he probably had a duff pedal sensor but it does sound like another case of computer knows best just in case the whole 105 nags is too much to handle!

Diesel engines don't have throttles!!!!!!!!

Engine speed is controlled by fuel delivery.

In regards to the noise when changing gear.

 

Mine makes a funny "coo" kind of noise as the revs drops if it's reved from a standstill.

 

1.9 BXE.

 

I find the economy of the 1.9 great.

 

Cruise usues more fuel in general.

 

Phil

It sounds like an owl, my wife's mk5 does it and I think it's got something to do with flow through the EGR.

Mine has started doing it lately too although its the 2.0 not the 1.9. Its not an issue on the face of it but I have been wondering if it is a sign of impending troubles.

Adam