HELP! Multiple warning lights and beep!

[AaronMountford1990]

The power steering light is flashing the asr light the abs light and handbrake warning light and passenger air bag..been happening every now and again so I turned off the engine and restarted and it went away but now I've had to drive home with it on and beeping constantly! Any ideas from you lovely briskodians as I've disconnected the battery at the minute..it's not a thermal problem is it, the temp sensor still needs replacing but all day today it has sat at 12 o'clock which it doesn't normally (sits at 10). I can't drive it at the minute

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[fabialousvrs]

Water leak causing an electrical fault

[KenONeill]

I'd start by checking the auxilliary drive belt tension, and the alternator clutch. This all sounds like it could be caused by low volts.

[AaronMountford1990]

Water leak causing an electrical fault

  

Whats it leaked into to cause that, the ecu??

I'd start by checking the auxilliary drive belt tension, and the alternator clutch. This all sounds like it could be caused by low volts.

Hi ken how do you go on about checking those?

[AaronMountford1990]

I'd start by checking the auxilliary drive belt tension, and the alternator clutch. This all sounds like it could be caused by low volts.

 

Hi ken, how do you go on about checking that

 

Water leak causing an electrical fault

Where would it have gotten into to cause this, the ecu??

[sepulchrave]

The alternator drive belt has an automatic tensioner and the alternator drive pulley has no clutch since this a petrol car, so you needn't worry about any of that.

 

However it does have a load sensor wire, you need to measure the voltage from the battery terminals with the engine off and then with it running, at least 12.6V and 14.2V respectively.

[ChipUK]

Check the condition of the Battery too. I had this problem and the battery was and I quote 'The most dead battery I have ever seen' (my local motor factor who tested it)

[AaronMountford1990]

Checked the battery voltages, 12.36V whilst engine off and 14V when running - so that means the battery is ok right?

 

Does this point towards the load wire? 

[sepulchrave]

Battery seems a little low, try giving it an overnight charge, alternator also a bit low, can you check fault codes?

[AaronMountford1990]

Will try checking the fault codes tomorrow, will charge battery tonight - its an old charger though how long do you reckon it should be left on for - i am unsure on whether its got an auto switchoff 

[sepulchrave]

Will try checking the fault codes tomorrow, will charge battery tonight - its an old charger though how long do you reckon it should be left on for - i am unsure on whether its got an auto switchoff 

 

Doesn't matter, the charger will only supply what current the battery wants, if it's a 4Ah charger it will take 11 hours to fully charge a flat 44Ah battery, maths ain't rocket science Aaron.

[ChipUK]

Ahhhhh so that's how it works........

[AaronMountford1990]

hi all, put the battery on charge and reinstalled it but thats made no difference.

 

The power steering, ABS,ASR lights are now intermittently flashing.

 

I used VCDS-lite on it to see what codes it flagged up and ive got the following 

 

Address 03: ABS Brakes       Labels: 6Q0-907-37x-ABS.LBL

   Controller: 6Q0 907 379 D

   Component: ABS/ASR 5.7 FRONT   V00

   Coding: 00124

   Shop #: WSC 13765

   VCID: 3E0FBDFB296F

   Note: Excessive Comm Errors

Address 08: Auto HVAC       Labels: 6Q0-820-045.LBL

   Controller: 6Y0 820 045 

   Component: Klimaanlage        X0760

   VCID: F297D9CBADB7

7 Faults Found:

01271 -  Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (V68)

            41-10 -  Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent

01271 -  Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (V68)

            29-10 -  Short to Ground - Intermittent

01271 -  Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (V68)

            28-10 -  Short to Plus - Intermittent

01596 -  Motor for Outside/Recirculated Air Flap (V154)

            41-10 -  Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent

01596 -  Motor for Outside/Recirculated Air Flap (V154)

            29-10 -  Short to Ground - Intermittent

01596 -  Motor for Outside/Recirculated Air Flap (V154)

            28-10 -  Short to Plus - Intermittent

01596 -  Motor for Outside/Recirculated Air Flap (V154)

            55-00 -  Adaptation Not Successful

 

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.       Labels: 6Qx-937-049-B.LBL

   Controller: 6Q1 937 049 

   Component: BORDNETZ-SG.        1S30

   Coding: 09394

   Shop #: WSC 13765

   VCID: F883EBE3CBCB

4 Faults Found:

01314 -  Engine Control Module

            49-10 -  No Communications - Intermittent

01312 -  Powertrain Data Bus

            37-10 -  Faulty - Intermittent

01309 -  Power Steering Control Module (J500)

            49-00 -  No Communications

01336 -  Data Bus for Comfort System

            80-00 -  Single-Wire Operation

 

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Address 15: Airbags       Labels: 6Qx-937-049-B.LBL

   Controller: 

 

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Address 17: Instruments       Labels: 6Qx-937-049-B.LBL

   Controller: 6Y2 919 870 Bv

   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDO V07

   Coding: 22442

   Shop #: WSC 24021

   VCID: CFD1703F1EC5

 

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Address 19: CAN Gateway       Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.LBL

   Controller: 6N0 909 901 

   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    1S30

   Coding: 00014

   Shop #: WSC 13765

   VCID: F093D3C3A3BB

4 Faults Found:

01314 -  Engine Control Module

            49-10 -  No Communications - Intermittent

01312 -  Powertrain Data Bus

            37-10 -  Faulty - Intermittent

01309 -  Power Steering Control Module (J500)

            49-00 -  No Communications

01336 -  Data Bus for Comfort System

            80-00 -  Single-Wire Operation

 

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Address 25: Immobilizer       Labels: None

   Controller: Bit teA dre ssv

   Component: e 17 eingeben          

   VCID: D0D3734303FB

No Faults Found

  or DTCs not supported by controller

  or a communication error ocurred

 

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Address 46: Central Conv.       Labels: 6Q0-959-433.LBL

   Controller: 6Q0 959 433 E`

   Component: ¶Q0959433E `¶Q0959433E`

   Coding: ¶Q0959433E `

   Shop #: ¶Q0959433E`

   VCID: AC2B07B34F13

 

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So i did the usual of clearing the codes before checking the culprit modules again which showed up the below 

 

 

After Clearing codes

 

VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2

Monday, 26 May 2014, 10:09:47:0

Control Module Part Number: 6N0 909 901 

  Component and/or Version: Gateway K<->CAN    1S30

           Software Coding: 00014

            Work Shop Code: WSC 13765

                      VCID: F093D3C3A3BB

2 Faults Found:

01309 -  Power Steering Control Module (J500)

        49-00 -  No Communications

01336 -  Data Bus for Comfort System

        80-00 -  Single-Wire Operation

 

VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2

Monday, 26 May 2014, 10:10:30:0

Control Module Part Number: 6Q1 937 049 

  Component and/or Version: BORDNETZ-SG.        1S30

           Software Coding: 09394

            Work Shop Code: WSC 13765

                      VCID: F883EBE3CBCB

2 Faults Found:

01309 -  Power Steering Control Module (J500)

        49-00 -  No Communications

01336 -  Data Bus for Comfort System

        80-00 -  Single-Wire Operation

 

Is this related to the PS pump by any chance? Is the control module built into the pump? Im hoping its just water ingress and the sun today will clear everything out but at the minute its undrivable mainly because of the handbrake warning chirp thats non stop!!

[Tech1e]

Dash cluster fault I'd say.

Communication faults are because gateway is in the dash.

[AaronMountford1990]

Well that seems a lot cheaper to fix, is there a way to test this?

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[Tech1e]

New dash cluster. About £350 installed by a dealer.

You can borrow another cluster to test. It won't start but the codes will clear.

[AaronMountford1990]

RIght, OK - I will have to try and get hold of another cluster, any cluster should work fine right so long as its a petrol version?

 

Do you have to get a new cluster or can refurb'ed units be installed? I would then need someone to code it for me - is this a main dealer only job or can it be taken to an auto electrician or similar?

[TMB]

There are companies online that could repair the cluster for you.

 

http://www.clusterrepairsuk.co.uk/repair/model/skoda-6y-fabia-instrument-cluster-speedo

[Tech1e]

Thats assuming it is a cluster, and thats just an assumption given the details provided and past experience. It still needs to be backed up with some diagnosis.

[Taylor93]

Even if you did swap the Dash cluster, surely you would need to Immobiliser Code to be changed (programmed into the dash cluster).

[AaronMountford1990]

From what ive read, if you get a new module it doesnt need to be coded (as theres no previous settings to overwrite, it just pulls the ECU data. Its only with a used unit you need to recode)

 

Checked the current dash cluster at the minute and the wiring looks pretty good, no apparant defects or wire splits running into both connectors :/

[Tech1e]

A new module will have to be coded. It has no security data, won't be paired to the keys or have and mileage stored in it.

[AaronMountford1990]

A new module will have to be coded. It has no security data, won't be paired to the keys or have and mileage stored in it.

 

Not too much of an issue then for anyone with VCDS, I've checked the connectors ill have to have a look at the PCB tonight and check for dry solder joints

 

If nothing comes of that i think its off to an auto electrician :/ I stopped one warning light flashing though! (Turned off the ASR haha)

 

Typical this is, just as ive brought a new set of door cards to spruce up the interior..the car throws a fit in defiance (I WILL REMOVE THAT TAN INTERIOR!) :P

[Tech1e]

You can only do it with VCDS if you have both the original SKC code and the new cluster SKC code or it has to be done online with Skoda.

[AaronMountford1990]

Where is the SKC code held? On the model sticker of the instrument unit?