Cable returns OK, but damage to outer might give probs later.
New cable (Pagid, Euro parts) has extra protective sheath (which I like) and slightly different design at front end where the cable runs into a curved alloy tube. L & R cables appear to be identical.
Haynes helpful (but you don't need to remove centre console completely, just lift at rear enough to get at cables) and mostly OK (one of the spring clips a b**std).
Problem is getting the old cable out of alloy tube. Looks as if it should just pull out; tube a bit flimsy to apply much force. Perhaps some corrosion between cable end and inside of alloy tube? I'm a bit reluctant to try heat.
Any ideas gents? Thanks!

Postscript #1

Are you all watching footie?

After seeing Audi clean up at le Mans again, spent a happy(?) Grandfathers Day afternoon under the vRS.

The cable outer was crimped inside a hard black plastic ferrule at the entry to the curved alloy tube. Cut the crimp, cable outer released OK. Cable inner pulled through but would not come out completely.

Black plastic ferrule would not turn or come out of alloy tube. Cut black plastic with junior hacksaw - very tough plastic - and eventually released it. However, realised that a portion was still inside the alloy tube. Cable inner (with nice smooth plastic covering tube) would not now feed back up to handbrake - ferrule entry roughened while cutting - but hope it can be persuaded.

It looks as if the cable assembly as fitted from new includes the alloy tube and would have needed replacing all as one unit. However the later design cable supplied by Euro (without the alloy tube) might be fitted if all the ferrule could be removed from the tube.

Suggested method

1. Feed inner up to handbrake end.

2. Cut inner under car, remove both halves.

3. (hopefully) Remove stub of ferrule from alloy tube - drill out with progressively increasing drill sizes, use small scalpel or junior blade fragment to finish.

4. Clean up inside the end of the alloy tube - should accept metal end of new cable assembly. Measurements with vernier caliper show this may be OK.

Has anybody done this - use new type cable with existing alloy tube?

Could someone please post details from the official Skoda parts list. Oh for a parts CD - Po**sch retail one for many models from first 356 to later 911's.

Comments from anyone with experience of this job wouldbe v hepful.

Happy Skoda-ing!

 

 

Does this help at all?

I had this same problem on my Octavia. I ended up cutting the cable off leaving the black plastic bit then I drilled it out carefully using progressively bigger bits. Once I had removed a fair bit of plastic I managed to extract the rest from the tube using mole grips.

Unfortunately the tube slipped out if the bracket inside the car and getting it back in was a right pain.

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Thanks very much Wino & trundlenut!

 

Wino's Parts Catalog shows what looks like the parts as fitted new. Is there a later version, perhaps showing the tubes separately from the cables? I'll give the Pagid part number later.

 

Is the Catalog open to all to see?

 

Looks as if I plan to follow a similar method to trundlenut. I'll take care not to dislodge the tube - this might mean taking up part of the rear carpet.

 

Like the sound of the 4 x 4 Octavia Estate.

 

I'll give a final update soon.

 

Again, many thanks!

Where the guide tube comes into the car it goes through an n shaped bracket on the Octavia, if the fabia is the same you could clamp it with mole grips to stop it slipping out.

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...Is the Catalog open to all to see?

Yeah, go to www.partscats.info

 

It's the most up-to-date version I've seen online.

 

This site/page may well prove useful to you also, if you can get over the annoying pop-ups.  Internal links don't work, but Next, Previous and the index all do.

A quick glance suggests that they 'skim over' the bit you're having trouble with though.

Thanks again gents!

 

trundlenut - I promise to be gentle with the tube, my first time with this job ....

 

I originated somewhere near you in Derbys, security prevents me naming the town but later moved a few miles east to Worksop.

 

My 4wd estate/hatch is a B*W 1 series. Great diesel engine and adaptive suspension, useful rear-facing camera but overall far too clever for its own good. I dread any future failures in the electrics. Ex demo from another dealer but supplied with a damaged rear wiper blade and wrong tyre pressures. Runflat system (no spare, boo hiss) which spots punctures by computing rolling radius. When I corrected the pressures a dire warning flashed up and I had to delve into the driver's manual to re-zero the system. Oh for an honest straightforward Octavia or Yeti!

 

Wino - thanks for the refs - are they well known about in this forum?

 

In the partscats, later dates for the cable assembly all show the same pic. I'd hoped for details of the later assembly - if it is indeed a change in the design, and not just a wrong part from Euro.

 

My Euro cable is part no. 108441558 - "brake cable LH & RH VAG Ibizia Fabia Polo 06 - Disc".

 

The Pagid Artikel no. is 84635; Bremsseil/brake cable; application Audi Volkswagen; L (length?) 1645mm

 

I don't have the Skoda number.

 

The online w/shop manual suggests fitting a new clip holding the cable to the axle - the one I found a b**std to remove (above). It has 4 small claws which should spring apart easily on fitting but which lock into the two coarse threaded studs on the underside of the axle (trailing arm) when you prise it off. I was lucky to get it off pretty intact and after a bit of remedial treatment it should be OK. Local dealer "has never had one" and (of course!) not in stock. For someone tackling the job with time to prepare I would suggest ordering one in. It is (I think!)

 

1H0609734F costing £1.23 + Vat

 

Happy Skoda-ing!

I don't really know how well known on the forum the partscats.info site is, nor the skoda workshop manuals one.  I put links to the former in about a third of my posts, but I couldn't say how many people click the links or realise that they can use the same site for their part numbers research.

 

As far as the ECP part you've bought, I just came across something that may explain your difficulty.

 

If you use the ECP part number 108441558 as a search term on ebay.co.uk you get this which seems to have more info than on the ECP website itself. It claims equivalence to VAG part number 6Q0609721L and FKB2984 (whoever's number that is). Looking at the partscats.info page, 6Q0609721L is one of the possible parts to suit a 2005 disc-braked car, but so are the two numbers with suffix G or K. You need to know the PR number pertaining to your car that corresponds to the possibilities listed in the right-most column. These numbers are listed on your vehicle info stickers which should be in the boot under the carpet, and in the front of your service book IIRC. See if you can find a match to one of the six options 1JA, 1JB, 1KK etc.  How one decides between the G and L suffix parts is anyone's guess though, as the info given seems to be identical. Guess a Skoda dealer may see something more helpful when they can filter these listings by VIN. 

 

Anyhow, on that Ebay listing the orange line "Vehicle info needed to determine compatibility" turns green to "Fits a Skoda Fabia 2005 6Y2 [1999-2007] Hatchback 1.9 TDI RS" when you fill in the Compatibility checker area further down the listing.

However, if you hover over the text under Important part details it says "Date from 12/06" which contradicts the fact that it claims to fit an 05 car.

 

This would have me wondering (and asking ECP on the phone) what part number is appropriate for pre-12/06 cars? Don't expect that to be a quick and easy conversation though.

Websites like partscat tend to come and go, VAG often get them shut down for copyright infringement.

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cut it thru at the end of the alloy tube then drill it progressivly bigger, or if you hadn't cut it off I usually heat the alloy with a tiny blow torch and it melts the plastic slightly to get it to twist and pull out.

cleaning the corrosion out of the tube is a pita tho.

Evening all!

 

Thanks again for your further posts.

 

It seems I should blame Euro setting me off down a difficult road.

 

The stub end of the black plastic ferrule came out easily enough using a succession of drills. But thanks felicia 16v for the blow torch tip. And the h/brake cable with metal end fitted inside the alloy tube OK. There was indeed some corrosion inside the tube end, cleared using a 9.5mm drill in my fingers - the tube is nominal 10.0mm i/d.

 

I'd mentioned the cable had an extra outer protective sleeve, which I thought was a Good Thing. But of course it would no way fit in the awkward clip 1H0609734F. The original cable had an o/d of about 9mm with an approximate hex of 10mm where it sits in the clip. The new cable is some 12.8mm o/d and the hex about 15mm. The two other clips (forwards along the cable run) are tight but can be persuaded open a bit. I'm not fully happy about the tightness, but the extra outer sheath is pretty soft.

 

The local dealer mentioned an alternative clip 1J0609734 - again never supplied by them and no stock! Said to be for heavy duty suspension. However, I managed to find one in stock at Trade Parts Specialists (TPS) who are factors for the VAG group. Obviously the correct clip for that cable, though you need very strong fingers (or wide opening grippers) to fit it round the cable. Job done!

 

Wino gave above the means to identify what should be on a particular car when new. But of course your car may have been "modified" by some meddler like me!

 

Advice is to stick to original fitments and order in a new clip beforehand; 1H0609734F unless you have the HD suspension when you need 1J0609734. If changing to the bigger o/d type I would advise also getting the two other clips exactly suited to the bigger o/d cable rather than struggle with the existing - sorry I don't have the nos.

 

The vRS has some new tyres going on the front (now 39,000 mls) - standard size 205/45R16 W83 Continental premium Contact. Were Bridgstone Turanzas(?) from new, one more plus spare fitted (front) at 25,500 mls. When we bought the car (2008, 17,000 mls) I thought the handing quite twitchy for a fwd car with heavy-ish engine; changing the pressures to 34psi all round gave a good balance in my eyes. Interesting to see how the Conti's will compare. Please don't caution me about not having best tyres on rear; I prefer good fronts to clear water away - unless going sideways (joke).

 

Again, thank you all for your posts.

 

Happy Skoda-ing