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Turbo blown. Need advice regarding replacing it in Worcester.

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Cheers.

 

However, my forearms might not forgive me for a while!

 

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Treat yourself to a beer with the money you've saved.

Ouch! Well done on fixing it yourself and you got there in good time to be fair before it blew!

Chris do you not have to do anything to like prime the turbo with oil? Is it literally old one off, replacement on, start engine? Did all the oil want to exit through the turbo oil feed when you disconnected it?

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Doing an oil & filter change now.

 

The oil feed pipe looks pretty clean inside - is it necesary to change it?

 

Can be the reason for turbo failure,people have knackered there new turbo by restricting the oil feed.

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There was some oil in the turbo but not a lot, I believe this is normal (isn't it?) and the turbo works by an oil mist rather than a flood.

The only access oil loss I experienced was removing the main intercooler pipe which resulted in about 1/2 litre of oil split.

The new turbo comes with a dose oil I think, this gets added through the oil feed line hole before its attached.

Chris do you not have to do anything to like prime the turbo with oil? Is it literally old one off, replacement on, start engine? Did all the oil want to exit through the turbo oil feed when you disconnected it?

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The oil is only pressurised into turbo with engine running,you only get minimal oil in the feed pipe when removed.

 

I put few posts up add some oil into the oil feed hose hole before fitting the pipe,just to give the bearings a bit of lube for the first start :)

Thanks for the advice, going to be changing my turbo relatively soon so this thread has been a good read for me.

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More than happy to share my experience. Done all my work with some pliers and a Halfords 100 piece tool kit.

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It just occured to me - should the main innercooler pipe that connects just by the wheel arch have oil in it?

When i removed it about 1/2 litre came out. Is this normal?

No I wouldn't say that was normal, not half a litre. That could be a result of the turbo failure though maybe? There is always some oil collects there though as it is the lowest point. You must have a right good set of pipes to have not leaked that out through the joints! Lol

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As above, a handy thread for me, as I'm putting a standard turbo back on very soon.

 

Your CCV will cause some oil to line your intercooler pipework, but that amount of oil is obviously due to the turbo letting go.

 

When my original one blew, the shaft seized solid on it and it p*ssed oil everywhere into the intake. When Ant from AP was stripping it down prior to hybrid fitting, he found a nice piece of the shaft that was stuck in my intake system  :o  :whew:   Had that have gone into the engine then it would've been game over!

 

Whip the intercooler and all pipework off and clean the inside thoroughly. It's really straightforward to get it off and shouldn't take you long!

I can't see how any big bits of metal could make it through the intercooler in all honesty but you will have to excuse my ignorance if it is possible.

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Chris you don't by any chance have a list of gaskets and bolts that you replaced when you did this do you?

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Hi guys - quick question for those who have fitted/replaced their turbos in the past, did you bleed the air off the the turbo?

 

Included with my turbo was a leaflet that said the fuel supply needs to be shut off & the oil drain pipe is disconnected. It then goes on to say that the engine is to be cranked for 10 seconds intervals with 15 second gaps to make sure that the oil is flowing through the system.

 

Is this something that must be done? I've primed the turbo with a syringe of oil that was included.

 

Also is disconnecting the fuel pump fuse (F61 15A) ok for 'shutting off' the fuel supply.

 

Thanks.

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Chris you don't by any chance have a list of gaskets and bolts that you replaced when you did this do you?

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Hi Ash,

 

I didnt replace any of the bolts when replacing the turbo. The kit only came with two new nuts & I was unsure that this were for.

 

The kit did come with new gaskets for all turbo connections. These included the main turbo to engine gasket, the exhaust gasket, the exhaust return pipe (only one) & the oil drain pipe.

 

Hope this helps.

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Berrys Top Tips.

 

One of the first things to do is remove the main turbo to intercooler pipe from under the car, this allows better access to the bottom of the turbo. When assembling, leave the intercooler pipe till last. This allows you better access to the bottom of the turbo for tighening other connections.

 

Remove the main air filter to turbo connecting pipe next, this gives you access to the intake manifold and other connections. Leave the small rubber flange on the turbo & disconnect at the air filter pipe side. Slide the pipe out to the right (passenger side), you may need to give it a wiggle to get past all the bits & bobs.

 

This really helped me out - when assembling everything back together, get the air filter to turbo connecting pipe spring strap clamp (turbo end) and using a pair of mole grips open it up as wide as possible. Now from underneath the car, slide the strap clamp over the rupper flange on the turbo where the connecting pipe goes - however, keep the mole grips locked, dont release them! Now fit the connecting pipe & slide the strap clamp into place. Release the mole grips - job done!

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Yay, it seems to be ticking over nicely! :clap:

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As above, a handy thread for me, as I'm putting a standard turbo back on very soon.

 

Your CCV will cause some oil to line your intercooler pipework, but that amount of oil is obviously due to the turbo letting go.

 

When my original one blew, the shaft seized solid on it and it p*ssed oil everywhere into the intake. When Ant from AP was stripping it down prior to hybrid fitting, he found a nice piece of the shaft that was stuck in my intake system  :o  :whew:   Had that have gone into the engine then it would've been game over!

 

Whip the intercooler and all pipework off and clean the inside thoroughly. It's really straightforward to get it off and shouldn't take you long!

Have you sold your hybrid yet Alex?

Well done. I'm doing a hybrid at the moment for another forum member. Sorry I'm late to this or could have offered help as I'm in Malvern.

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No worries Tech1e, was pretty straight forward in the end. Plus I wouldn't want you to get stuck in the Powick traffic! :)

Drove the car into work this morning, didnt rush or accelerate hard and everything seems to be working; no unpleasant noises or smoke.

Have you sold your hybrid yet Alex?

 

Still trying to find a reasonably priced PD130 turbo unfortunately. The second I do then it'll be swapped and ready.

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What do you call reasonable?

I replaced mine like for like and with a brand new one rather than a reconditioned one. A bit pricey @ £450 but I need one in a rush and was guarantee to fit first time.

Chris you don't by any chance have a list of gaskets and bolts that you replaced when you did this do you?

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Ash here was my shopping list

 

inlet manifold gasket - dealer

Exhaust manifold gasket - ECP

turbo->downpipe gasket - ECP

Turbo->EGR gasket - ECP

Oil return gasket - dealer

Oil return pipe - dealer

Oil filter - ECP

Sump plug - ECP

new exhaust nuts - dealer

air filter - ECP

pollen filter - ECP

fuel filter - ECP

Ash here was my shopping list

inlet manifold gasket - dealer

Exhaust manifold gasket - ECP

turbo->downpipe gasket - ECP

Turbo->EGR gasket - ECP

Oil return gasket - dealer

Oil return pipe - dealer

Oil filter - ECP

Sump plug - ECP

new exhaust nuts - dealer

air filter - ECP

pollen filter - ECP

fuel filter - ECP

Cheers mate, I did a search and found the thread you posted this in and turned it in to a PDF document :-)

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