Would be nice to have a 1.8T or 2.0T in a possible future mk3 vRS.

They will never put a 2.0T into a Fabia when even the Superb is downsizing (no more V6).

 

These are the Spec for a Golf Mk.7 GTE.

 

Engine: 1.4-litre 4-cyl turbo petrol with electric motor

Power: 150kW (combined)

Torque: 350Nm (combined)

Transmission: 6-speed dual clutch auto, FWD

Fuel consumption: 1.5L/100km, 50km EV range

Weight: 1524kg (120kg lithium-ion battery)

 

The petrol engine delivers 110kW and 250Nm of torque. In kick down mode the electric motor provides an additional 40kW and 100Nm, taking the available reserves up to 150kW and 350Nm. With a claimed 0-100km/h time of 7.6sec and 222km/h top speed.

 

As long as they could keep weight around 1350-1400kg it would be as quick or quicker then any other Skoda ever.

mmmm , I do  like that idea.... seems skoda were a bit slow to introduce stop start though! I fear it will be last in the que for the VW hybrid kit :(

 

I would be tempted by a warm version with that spec though! apparently the golf gives the gti a close run!

I would be tempted by a warm version with that spec though! apparently the golf gives the gti a close run!

Until the first corner.

Ideal Skoda then.

Until the first corner.

Ideal Skoda then.

hey! its people like me that keep the aftermarket suspension companies in business

They will never put a 2.0T into a Fabia when even the Superb is downsizing (no more V6).

 

I know, would still be very nice tho ;-)

The only engine a mk3 fab vrs will get is whatever goes into the polo

All down to money, like most things

Are Skoda telling the Industry and Journalists one thing,

& using Social Media to lead the 'Youth Market' they want as Customer & Buyers something else?

 

http://carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Industry-News/No-hot-vRS-version-for-new-2015-Skoda-Fabia

I asked Skoda about Fabia 3 RS in near future and they give me the anwser. (In picture) ... So there is still hope

Well Skoda, if you are monitoring this - get a mk3 vRS made! (Or I am off to another manufacturer) :-)

Autocar skoda not making fabia vrs as there will be no profit (profit margin)

There can be the same profit margin as made with the VW Polo GTI 2015 if the VWG & Skoda want,

and they price them correctly and they sell.

& they might sell better than the Volkswagen offering that will not be getting built and sold at a loss, or as a loss leader.

 

You need to look at facts not spin, from Skoda CZ or Volkswagen in Germany..

Only 3,000 vRS Fabia MK2 1.4tsi sold in the UK in 4 years might not be great.

 

But VW sold around 1,300 Polo GTI 1.4 TSI in 4 years in the UK.

Seat around 2,000 Ibiza 1.4 TSI Twinchargers in 5 Years.

& 

Audi less than 500 A1 1.4 TSI 185 ps.

 

So the truth is that a Skoda 3rd Generation Fabia 1.8 TSI 189 bhp Manual or DSG sold for £1,000-£1,500 less than a Polo GTI 2015 might well have a good enough profit margin, 

but might take sales from Volkswagen in the UK.

 

*Maybe even take sales from Bigger Skodas in the UK if they were to do a 

3rd Generation all new Fabia Estate 2015 with a 1.8 TSI Manual & DSG/Automatic option.*

Edited 1 November, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

VW will not want another competitor for the Polo GTI especially from within the same group, they already have one from Seat.

It seems that they want the Polo GTI to be like the Golf GTI, the quality and original alternative but the Polo has never sold well as a hot hatch which is why the don't want too much competition.

I wonder how long they will keep selling Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.4 TSI when there are no MK2 Fabia vRS being produced.

 

?

Will production of the 1.4 TSI 132-136 kW CTHE Twincharger engines by VW have ceased now or very soon ?

Edited 1 November, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

SEAT is the VAG "sporty" brand. They will always have performance oriented versions of all their cars.

Skoda is the VAG "value" brand. They don't need a performance version but they will get a sporty looking one (Monte Carlo).

VW has spent a fortune on WRC building up the Polo GTi so there has to be one of those in the range.

Audi doesn't need a sporty supermini as the "Premium" range but they have one anyway.

I had my allroad serviced yesterday and Audi Norwich had 4 unregistered S1's plus a demonstrator sitting outside. So maybe there isn't a market for that car either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoda_Fabia_S2000

 

The Fabia S2000 has been winning with the MK2 Body shell shape.

& the R5 1.6 T 2015 has the 3rd Generation Shape.

 

So what is the point of Skoda always going on about Motorsport Heritage & Rally Inspired just to 

play on the Monte Carlo name as a spec and turn out 75 ps Citigo & 59-110 ps New Fabia.

& the 'Sporty' !! Looking Monte Carlo Yeti.

 

A bit of a joke really,

much like Diesel vRS Octavia with 184ps & Petrols with 220ps.

Skoda do believe Sporty Looks are enough for people to buy their cars.

 

'Skoda / Volkswagen Group' must put a good few Euro into Skoda Motorsport as well.

& there must be some point to it, like raising the profile & the awareness with the general public.

Edited 1 November, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

Have to agree I'm disappointed with the wider branding of other models with the Monte Carlo tag, particularly the Yeti and the fact a focus on styling has led to the demise of the Fabia vRS. Although I feel Skoda shot themselves in the foot by limiting the Fabia II vRS appeal with the choice of engine and transmission (certainly no manual box put us off, along with engine reliability concerns).

 

With the Fabia II the idea of celebrating both rally and motosport heritage with a special edition, that was more affordable to run for a wider audience than the vRS worked, but to then use it as a mainstream model tag I feel detracts from the original concept.

 

 

 

TP

I have an 11 plate VRS TFSI. Had the old oil consumption problems, backwards and forwards a fair few times and a couple of emails/letters later, Skoda Uk agreed (at 43k miles) to put a spanking new engine in. Brilliant I thought. I must stress that prior to this apart from oil mysteriously disappearing from the engine (!) the car was awesome and never missed a beat . Put 1000 mls on new engine v carefully, noticed car was dropping oil ( dip stick disagreed ) was told turbo gasket leaking. 3 days later collected car, should have been perfect but no, 1 day later now leaking oil from that v expensive gearbox . Now I read they're a bit prone to going ? Anyone got any ideas for my next move? In a courtesy car at the mo, maybe I should keep it?

If you have a look in the Fabia 2 section you will see the dozens of threads on the subject.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/294051-cave-cthe-14tsi-just-reply-please-if-you-have-had-an-engine-replaced

 

There is another long running thread.

Consistent treatment by Skoda UK

it was added to at the weekend, so should be easy to see in the Mk2 section

Edited 4 November, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

Double whammy- engine and DSG.

 

Skoda UK CS and dealers have No process / procedure for dealing with this situation.

 

Perhaps you will get Consistent treatment as you did with the Engine for the DSG.

 

Does this go back to the quality of workmanship at the time of engine change?

 

I'm sure that there won't be any problems like this on the mk3..............

Edited 4 November, 201411 yr by vrskeith

DSG problems are very rare, its generally accepted the 7-speed dry DSG is one of the ebst of its kind out there. This sounds like a gasket issue, i.e the techs didn't put it back to gether properly.

Sadly DSG Issues following engine replacements & even more after a replaced engine being replaced again are not uncommon.

Several Members have had issues.

DSG & DSG ECU following the job being done.

 

You leave the Car with the Dealership until Skoda UK come up with the solution to getting competent Technicians to Inspect,

Report and arrange a proper repair.

Do not accept back a faulty car.

 

george

Has anybody got the sales figures  for the mk 1 and mk 2 vrs as a percentage of fabia sales. Surely the mk1 made money. I seem to see a lot more mk 1's about than mk 2's. I'd buy a mk3 diesel tomorrow.

Skoda say the Mk2 Fabia vRS was less than 3 % of sales World Wide, or something like that.

They sold near 3,000 in the UK in 4 years.

2,500 Hatch & 500 Estates

 

Last year Skoda Registered 66,000 cars in the UK.

32,000 of them were Fabia mk2's.

Only 500 were Mk2 vRS.

 

Was the sales for Fabia MK1 vRS something like 13,000 models sold in the UK during the time they were available..

But they were not a cheap car.

 

130 bhp or more powerful dirty diesels are available from plenty of manufacturers now.

Edited 4 November, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

Bit of a shame this, I had my heart set on a new Fabia VRS to replace my Monte Carlo in a few year's time. We don't need a bigger car but do want something more fun when my insurance bills will be lower. Getting a Mk3 MC and tuning it while there's still a warranty doesn't particularly appeal to me for obvious reasons.

 

I would have liked a VRS this time but when I bought the MC I was doing too many miles. The miles I am doing now I'd love a VRS, although the DSG box has put me off and I find it odd they didn't do a manual.

Edited 6 November, 201411 yr by Lukeb