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Planning to get a HP HX4700 PDA with a view to add sat nav software and bluetooth GPS antenna at a later stage.

Just wondering what experiences the members have had with map accuracy, volume levels and general operation of their systems... :thumbup:

There great,

Dont have the HP but i do have a Pocket PC running 5. The sound is load enough not to put you off and i find it extremely accurate.

I dont us it so much now as i have TomTom Mobile 5 on my nokia. Same solution just means i dont have to take the pda with me as i always have the phone.

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I use ViaMichelin 3 on my Palm, and have no real complaints. The screen sometimes gets too dim if sunlight shines directly on it, and it occasionally gives odd directions (usually when there's a motorway junction on a bend like the M18/M1(S) junction), but as long as you have a vague idea where you're going, it's brilliant - especially at

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Which PDA do you have? I've chosen the HX4700 after a lot of research as I need a fullt fledged PDA for work etc. It's go a 4inch VGA screen, 195MB RAM and is the fastest on the market at around 644MHz. Have you got speed camera detection on eithr of your systems? Jat

My PDA is a Zire 31, which is about as bargain-basement as they come (you can get one for less than a ton these days I think). As I don't really make much use of the actual PDA functions other than calendar, tasks and calculator, the slow processor and teeny amount of RAM don't really hinder the Sat Nav function. You can get the same system bundled with a better PDA if you wanted to actually use the PDA functions properly (I have a PC for all that IMO!!!)

Anyway, the speed camera warning on ViaMichelin involves renaming certain *.csv files from pocketgps world to *.asc, and removing the column headings. Then they can be imported the same as any other lat/long POI list. You'd need to make your own icons too (the pocketgpsworld ones are 1pixel x 1pixel too large), but that's an easy enough job, and only needs to be done once. Like I say, the ViaMichelin system gives you a warning 30 seconds away and 10 seconds away, which'll be enough for all but the most long-range mobile laser systems, and plenty for fixed speed cameras. So for 30 minutes' worth of setting up first time around, and five minutes' worth each time a new update comes out (roughly monthly), I'm protected against speed cameras, and without breaking the new Road Traffic Act regulations.

I gather the pocketgpsworld database works better (automatically) with TomTom and Navman, but I've also heard that at least one of those systems doesn't give an audible warning - could be wrong there though.

At the end of the day, I got mine because it was half the price of the next-cheapest system, so I'm not bothered about having to compromise on things like POI updates...

Jat,

don't know if this option would suit you but I found the best way to get an integrated system that you can always hear in the car was as follows. I got an Ipaq 6340 which has built in mobile phone, and put Tom Tom 5 on it. I then installed a Parrot 3300 combined bluetooth car phone kit and sat nav receiver. This is wired into the car audio so that when I get a sat nav direction (or camera warning) the audio mutes (or switches on if not on) and the sound comes through the car speakers, just as it does when I get a phone call. The result is that you can adjust the sat nav sound volume using the audio controls, including those on the steering wheel if you have them.

I don't know if you can get a kit that wires the sound from your PDA into the audio system without having the built in phone (the Parrot needs the phone).

For info, the latest ViaMichelin bundle includes as Palm Tungsten E2, but the sotware / receiver packs will work for any PDA with Palm OS 5.x or

Pocket PC 2000/2002/2003/2003 SE

But I don't think you'd be able to tie the system in with the car audio, so if you want something with all the bells and whistles I'd maybe look at one of the other systems being discussed...

I'm running tomtom5 on my palm tungsten t3. No problems with it apart from the usual - brand new roads aren't on it, sunlight can wash out the screen a bit..

As you can install your own POIs you just upload the lastest speed camera info from pocketgpsworld, and set up tomtom to warn you when you're a certain distance from one - you can pick a sound to play to warn you (mine honks). Routing seems to be top notch from my recent experiences, so I've really nothing to complain about.

Drove to Gretna Green a few weeks ago and then all around Galloway with no problems. Also went to to hotel in the back of beyond near Leicester without any troubles.

TT5 has a traffic feature that will (in theory) get the latest traffic updates and warn you about them - and re-route if you pick that option. If you check out the forums on pocketgpsworld, you'll see that opinion is divided on it. I tried it once, and wasn't sure it was worth it, so turned it off again!

Which PDA do you have? I've chosen the HX4700 after a lot of research as I need a fullt fledged PDA for work etc. It's go a 4inch VGA screen, 195MB RAM and is the fastest on the market at around 644MHz. Have you got speed camera detection on eithr of your systems? Jat

But be aware that the headline ram figure is slightly misleading.

only 64Mb available for running programs and "usual storage". Then there is an 85mb "Ipaq Filestore" which you can save stuff to so even if you lose all power, it's not going to disappear.

rest is ROM for the OS.

Screen is lovely to look at. Bluetooth and Wifi built in.

If you haven't already bought one, I'm looking at selling mine (bought in June 2005)..... ;)

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I won't need to integrate the system with my car speakers as I'm planning to use something like this :

http://www.eurosimm.com/sites/eurosimm.nsf/details.jsp?ItemCode=LDNP-6AYJXK. I'll be able to thread the power supply so it is not visible but still able to remove and use in another vehicle when needed.

But yours sounds like a pretty good set up having said that. :thumbup:

Running a Medion system at the moment with Medion Navigator 5 on it. That was the Aldi deal at

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For OEM GPS systems, many manufacturers Use either Navteq or TeleAtlas. Navteqs' UK mapping is substantially better than TeleAtlas. There seems to be a greater number of companies providing data for PDA, smart phone and portable GPS markets. I think I would have invested in something like a Medion if it wasn't for the fact that I need a PDA first and foremost and GPS as a secondary function.

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Sorry, yes you're correct about the memory.

Why are you selling yours after only 3 months?

Sorry' date=' yes you're correct about the memory.

Why are you selling yours after only 3 months?[/quote']

It was.... :o an impulse purchase. :o

my rate of IT churn is quite "impressive"..... :rolleyes:

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The cheapest I can get the HX4700 is

The cheapest I can get the HX4700 is
For OEM GPS systems, many manufacturers Use either Navteq or TeleAtlas. Navteqs' UK mapping is substantially better than TeleAtlas. There seems to be a greater number of companies providing data for PDA, smart phone and portable GPS markets. I think I would have invested in something like a Medion if it wasn't for the fact that I need a PDA first and foremost and GPS as a secondary function.

I don't know I find the medion one is fine for my need, it really does the job of a PDA fine IMHO, for all serious stuff I use my laptop anyway and syncronise the PDA.

At brand new from

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Oh, I totally agree mate. Everyone has their own budget, and require different things from a PDA/Nav. I wouldn't deride anyone for purchasing a bargain system - afterall it makes sense to save a bit of dosh! I actually deal with Sat Nav for Jag/Landrover, so my requirements for a PDA are more for engineering use with diagnostic programs etc. By the way, I notice your birthday is on the 25th - mines on the 26th! Have a great time!!! Jat :cake: :orb_party

I use the HX4700 and Tomtom bluetooth GPS, excellent never had a problem with it

One thing though, I had to intall the VGA fix otherewise some programs wouldnt run properly

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I use the HX4700 and Tomtom bluetooth GPS' date=' excellent never had a problem with it

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Hi Mav,

Which TOMTOM have you got? Seems to be quite a number of package combinations around :thumbup:

Also, whats the VGA fix? Was there a problem with the early ones? How would you rate the features/functionality/ease of use on you 4700?

Jat

I got Tomtom 3.7 I bought mine before Tomtom 5 came out, but to be honest having played with tomtom 5, I dont like it

but I do like tomtom as a sat nav sytem

Planning to get a HP HX4700 PDA with a view to add sat nav software and bluetooth GPS antenna at a later stage.

Just wondering what experiences the members have had with map accuracy' date=' volume levels and general operation of their systems... :thumbup:[/quote']

Hi,

I use a T-Mobile MDA Compact with Tom Tom 5 and it works fine. The map accuracy is good and I have all the maps for Europe so navigating in Italy next week should be easy!!!!

I also use a program called Memory Map which gives me full OS maps while mountainbiking.

One advantage of the MDA is it is about the same size as a normal phone so I only have the one device.

Regards

I have a Dell Axim X3 with TTN 5, I think it's taken me to the wrong place once and I've been using it for months and months. I have the wired GPS reciever as I worried about the Bluetooth reciever dying at a critical point.

I won't need to integrate the system with my car speakers as I'm planning to use something like this :

http://www.eurosimm.com/sites/eurosimm.nsf/details.jsp?ItemCode=LDNP-6AYJXK. I'll be able to thread the power supply so it is not visible but still able to remove and use in another vehicle when needed.

But yours sounds like a pretty good set up having said that. :thumbup:

Jat

the Brodit mounts are good - nice solid well built feel to them As well as the active one you are thinking of they do one that just holds and charges the PDA - that is what I am using with my Ipaq and Parrot. Problem is I have been told that the sound on the active one is a bit quiet and can't be heard over road noise and audio. So if you are using sat nav you can't be listening to radio/CDs etc (or you have to keep switching their volume down).

With the system I have it is done automatically and the audio restarts after the sat nav announcement - the only annoying thing is that Tom Tom seems to hold onto the mute for a few seconds after the announcement is finished - unlike the phone which restarts the audio as soon as you hang up.

I use the Garmin iQue 3600 which is a full Palm PDA with built in GPS.

Mine cost

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