Hello folks,

 

The other day I visited my father who has a steep, short drive that we always reverse up as it’s easier/safer to get back out onto the main road.

 

As anyone who’s ever driven a DSG knows that while reversing up a slope if you touch the brake pedal it disengages the clutch momentarily then re-engages when you lift off the pedal again.

 

So I started to reverse and touch the brake as I got close to the wall and the clutch released slightly as expected. I then released the pedal and it started to move again and due to the slope the engine chugged to maintain idle then suddenly without touching the brake the clutch suddenly and completely disengaged and the car rolled forward.

 

I initially thought the engine had stalled but then realised what had happened.

 

Now my question is; Is this normal?

 

Is it that the clutch disengages in this way to prevent the engine from stalling? Perhaps it reached a point where it could not maintain sufficient idle to move the car and not stall the engine so released the clutch?

 

When I continued to reverse I used a tiny bit of throttle this time and managed to finish parking without any more problems.

 

It is of course the 6 speed DQ250 gearbox.

 

Any advice appreciated.

 

Phil

Hmm, not sure if I've ever had this problem, but I often have to reverse parallel park up a hill, and I almost always use a small amount of throttle, as without it the engine tends to bog down.

 

That took a bit of getting used to when I first got the car.

I have seen this behaviour on occasion with my DSG; although it is not consistent, that's for sure.

If the engine is cold for example - it seems more likely to happen (when moving my car on and off a steep driveway).

Folks,

First mine is the dry 7 speed DSG.

But otherwise

Absolutly as per my (awaiting a barrister's opinion) long drawn out case, it consisently throws a fault code, "Gateway communication error" or somesuch.

Skoda burying their head in the sand/unable to fix despite fitting;

(i) A new mechatronic unit

(ii) Another replacment new mechatronic unit

(iii) A new clutch pack

(iv) Finally a complete replacment transmission

All to no end, it is a SOFTWARE fault.

The transmission (in my case) clearly ignores throttle input and drops completely out of gear.

Despite me VERY slowly and gradually having fed in throttle pedal movment equal to 2250 or 2500rpm.

As one does when manuvering within tight constraints.

It is also prone to happen on absoulty level grass or loose stone, ie there is rolling resistence to be overcome.

This has repeatedly been proven by stopping the car with the parking brake/handbrake, and nicking the drive selector into neutral.

alll without EVER moving the foot on the throttle.

the revs then instantly rise to 2250 or 2500 as per the throttles previously ignored instructions (the throttle pentiometer input being overridden by the transmission software .

Marcus

Edited 2 December, 201411 yr by dieseldogg

The DSG clutches will disengage to prevent overheating, so if you hold the car with the brake released relying on the box to hold the car then it will eventually disengage the clutches to save them.

When reverse parking my 6 speed DSG up a slight hill I give it the slightest bit of throttle just to start it off a little bit faster and then no throttle at all and it seems to cope crawling along with the small incline ok, but can imagine it would be trickier on a steeper sloper

The car was only just luke warm from being used previously and I had only nipped about 1/2 a mile down the road and back.

 

The drive is very steep and I didn't use any throttle at all.

 

It sounds like it's definitely normal and just something to be mindful of next time.

 

Perhaps using some throttle and holding it on the handbrake would do the trick.

 

Phil

Folks,

First mine is the dry 7 speed DSG.

But otherwise

Absolutly as per my (awaiting a barrister's opinion) long drawn out case, it consisently throws a fault code, "Gateway communication error" or somesuch.

Skoda burying their head in the sand/unable to fix despite fitting;

(i) A new mechatronic unit

(ii) Another replacment new mechatronic unit

(iii) A new clutch pack

(iv) Finally a complete replacment transmission

All to no end, it is a SOFTWARE fault.

The transmission (in my case) clearly ignores throttle input and drops completely out of gear.

Despite me VERY slowly and gradually having fed in throttle pedal movment equal to 2250 or 2500rpm.

As one does when manuvering within tight constraints.

It is also prone to happen on absoulty level grass or loose stone, ie there is rolling resistence to be overcome.

This has repeatedly been proven by stopping the car with the parking brake/handbrake, and nicking the drive selector into neutral.

alll without EVER moving the foot on the throttle.

the revs then instantly rise to 2250 or 2500 as per the throttles previously ignored instructions (the throttle pentiometer input being overridden by the transmission software .

Marcus

 

Without sounding harsh that sounds nothing like what I experienced and also a completely different gearbox.

OK

I only read and "twigged" about the different transmission, after much onerous one fingered typing, so begrudged deleting my hard-wrought post,

cheers

m

Edited 2 December, 201411 yr by dieseldogg

My thread on dsg problems .this Monday it went into Skoda dealer for examine as to what has gone wrong. Fitter took it for ride and got symptoms right away but thought it could be many things even to clutch plates.Tuesday, rang to see how its getting on. They are waiting for Skoda to reply about the faults shown. Am on tenter hooks whether the repair will be greater than what the car value is, ie 2005 Octavia 2.0 Elegance with 59700 mile on it. Had new flywheel at 16000 under warranty . Any thoughts ?.

Again my gearbox is fine in every other way. No jumps, jerks or slips.

 

Like I've said in your other threads it's most likely the mechatronics or clutches at fault.

 

Phil