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Some places do indeed. & just as well they do where it might be totally inappropriate.

But then you get rural areas that have customers that do the same set up winter after winter, and as Tom said, It is not Unusual.

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  • Because if you died or killed someone as a result they would be criminally liable. It'll also void your insurance if they caught you (usually during a claim/repair) It goes against all of the tyre man

  • Well I can add that my Honda with well worn tyres (was going to put new ones on but SWMBO made a big issue of it so I didn't) was foggin useless in the snow and I had to leaved it parked up on double

Some places do indeed. & just as well they do where it might be totally inappropriate.

But then you get rural areas that have customers that do the same set up winter after winter, and as Tom said, It is not Unusual.

Oh its not unusual

We went n did it anyway. Im still alive haha.

The T5 work van has winters on the front and summers on the back too.

But i don't think its best practice tbh. Hence why I've gone for a full set of all seasons (aswel as the noise issue).

I wouldn't necessarily recommend fitting just 2

Oh its not unusual

We went n did it anyway. Im still alive haha.

The T5 work van has winters on the front and summers on the back too.

But i don't think its best practice tbh. Hence why I've gone for a full set of all seasons (aswel as the noise issue).

I wouldn't necessarily recommend fitting just 2

Had 2 on the Fiesta dad used to own, was absolutely brilliant in snow. Rears were m+s.

Otaylor38,  

because they get flamed, or blamed for giving dangerous advice nobody does recommend it,

 but so many do it, as your post confirms,

and then there are the multi page threads like last winters and the winter before.

Horses for Courses & Location, location, location.  

& driving in town on black top salted and gritted roads and never out fin bad weather for more than a few hours or days

each winter, and never above 20 mph to get to the shops,

is different from Travelling out and about and covering distances on untreated roads with drifts and the likes.

Edited by goneoffSKi

Some places refuse to fit em on just one axle mate. My dad got turned away by 'selecta tyre' when he went to get them fitted on the polo.

It is doable. Just gotta be aware of what will happen. If you've got your head switched on it wont be a problem. But if you're the kind that mash the brakes you're going to end up facing the other way haha.

Because if you died or killed someone as a result they would be criminally liable. It'll also void your insurance if they caught you (usually during a claim/repair)

It goes against all of the tyre manufacturers, tyre fitters, safety organisations and importantly insurers.

Because if you died or killed someone as a result they would be criminally liable. It'll also void your insurance if they caught you (usually during a claim/repair)

It goes against all of the tyre manufacturers, tyre fitters, safety organisations and importantly insurers.

And i dont blame em either tbh haha

What voids your insurance, have different brands of tyres front and rear ?

What voids your insurance, have different brands of tyres front and rear ?

Exactly, different grip patterns. The difference in grip between expensive fronts and budget rears.

This would probably be a good time to post that pic of the BMW with snow chains on the front wheels...

 

BMW.jpg

Good god. I remember once on the TV they said that front wheel drive cars were better in the snow than RWD and were better at getting up snowy hills.

So people started ringing up saying they had a BMW and would it be better if they reversed up the hill?

This would probably be a good time to post that pic of the BMW with snow chains on the front wheels...

 

BMW.jpg

Classic!!! Hilarious!!

Because if you died or killed someone as a result they would be criminally liable. It'll also void your insurance if they caught you (usually during a claim/repair)

It goes against all of the tyre manufacturers, tyre fitters, safety organisations and importantly insurers.

Google winter tyres and you'll see what happens. You'd have to be insane to mix them on a public road.

What voids your insurance, have different brands of tyres front and rear ?

Not different brands but different types. Ie mixing "summer" with all weather or "winter" spec tyres.

Not different brands but different types. Ie mixing "summer" with all weather or "winter" spec tyres.

It won't void anything. If they were on the SAME axel then maybe but you can have different types on different axels. It's the same as home some cars come standard with different size tyres front and rear giving different grip levels.

Also the fitter isn't liable for anything if you ask them to fit winters to the front and keep summers on the back. Who ever told you that is talking out of their rear.

Google winter tyres and you'll see what happens. You'd have to be insane to mix them on a public road.

Well. Not insane as such IMO. I did well over a year with em like this and has no catastrophic consequences.

Its just not really the best thing to do haha.

 

We know all that, but there are loons and quines that are not away to cover any distance on any White Covered Hard Packed snow while driving like a muppet.

And drive on roads with cambers not frozen lakes which because they are water are always horizontal.

They might even drive carefully at start and stops and use the gears and not touch the brakes.

 

(or like to Scandanavian Flicks & also get a bit of Hand Brake Action as well, as i see the local yummy mummies practicing, but which can all be spoiled now when in their other halfs 'Proper Car' with Electric handbrake'.)

 

There is a Salter/gritter goes around their town and treats the roads and if the white stuff falls and they need to get the toddler to the nursery 

the children to school & themself to the Supermarket they just want to crawl at 10 mph for the 2 miles in the VW Golf

with a pair of winter tyres on the drive wheels and a Mechanical Hand Brake working on the rear wheels.

 

When they want to go out and about & travel distances they can jump in Range Rover with Summer Tyres on and drive through 

blizzards with only front DRL's on and no lights to the rear, and when it starts sliding it is 2 tonnes of sledge for that fun ride.

 

It is the real world, UK stylee, not Scandanavia.

Yesterday the people on the A9 were stuck in Snow because of sliding HGV's, 

today they are in 8" of Slush & Melted Snow and wanting moving before a freeze comes,

they just want some traction because without their is no action.

 

http://trafficscotland.org/currentincidents

 

It is handy when you can start your driving career & take lessons in winter, it sets you up better maybe than where you seldom see white top.

(Yesterday Daisy Desire sat where she was even though she is perfect with Snow Tyres on the Front only,

but being a white car might get run over by a Snow Plough if caught in a drift. Today it is totally clear after a night of rain.)

Edited by goneoffSKi

Snows all gone now such is the fickle weather up here. More due later I think and my phone weather is showing -12C for one day next week and few other nippy temperatures, hoping it's wrong.

 

Think my plan is going to be stick to the 2x new summer rubber and order up a set of budget chains.

Edited by Aspman

It looks like if you have snow/cold weather tyres now might be a good time to fit them. From the Met office - 

 

UK Outlook for Monday 19 Jan 2015 to Wednesday 28 Jan 2015:

 

Dry, cold and clear for much of central Britain on Monday and Tuesday with showers affecting many coastal counties away from the south, readily falling as sleet and snow. There will be a widespread frost overnight and some localised patches of freezing fog which may be slow to clear through the day. Through the rest of next week, the general cold conditions will persist bringing an ongoing risk of snow, more especially in northern and eastern areas. Temperatures will be generally below average with overnight frosts, locally severe. 

I realise that with winter tyres on I might be able to get home if the snow falls, but I won't because few if any HGV or PSVs fit them, and they're the ones that block the roads. So, ultimately I've probably wasted my money if I was hoping to avoid getting stuck on a motorway in a blizzard, but I'll fit them simply because I have a diabetic son, and back in 2010 when we had a lot of snow, I got stuck on summer tyres on a puny incline, he was with me, hungry and no sugar in the car. Never again!

Hundreds or vehicles stuck for over 12 hours on the A9 when the Snow Gates closed at 9.30 PM Blair Atholl & Dalwhinnie, it looks like it was horror show.

 

Snow tyres or not the only way not to be left sitting there would have to been able to get turned around and on your way back the way you came,

and at Dual Carraigeway sections that is not always possible.

When you do that, or try to U Turn at single carriageway sections you had best hope your tyres have traction and you can complete the maneuver.

 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-30803524

Edited by goneoffSKi

It won't void anything. If they were on the SAME axel then maybe but you can have different types on different axels. It's the same as home some cars come standard with different size tyres front and rear giving different grip levels.

Also the fitter isn't liable for anything if you ask them to fit winters to the front and keep summers on the back. Who ever told you that is talking out of their rear.

If the fitter has had proper training, they'd know it's against every tyre company advice, and the UK fitting retailers.  If the fitter went against this, then you had an accident, yes they could be held liable.

Out of interest,

Have you had the Tyre Fitting Training or worked as a Tyre Fitter,

or Tyre Fitting Centre Manager in the UK?

Out of interest,

Have you had the Tyre Fitting Training or worked as a Tyre Fitter,

or Tyre Fitting Centre Manager in the UK?

I do a lot of tyre fitting, you can only advise the people as its not a legal issue to fit different pairs for different axles

Even different types?

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