Whats the better gearbox? Seems little in fuel economy and acceleration, so what's better as a day to day driver?

Depends which engine as you can get either 6 or 7speed dsg and what sort of driving you do. Both have their supporters but you need to test drive both to see which you prefer and if you want to pay the extra for dsg.

Depends what you want out of it. I like autos now and wouldn't want a manual again as they're so nice when in traffic, but I don't think I'd want a DSG out of warranty.

Depends which engine as you can get either 6 or 7speed dsg and what sort of driving you do. Both have their supporters but you need to test drive both to see which you prefer and if you want to pay the extra for dsg.

2.0 TDi CR

I've had both in the 1.6 tdi and overall I prefer the DSG because I cover about 30,000 miles a year. 

That will be the 6 speeder then. Some say it is the better gearbox as it can handle more torque and has the clutches immersed in oil to make them longer lasting. I had a DSG Octavia and am only in a manual Yeti now because I prefer it for towing and manoeuvring the caravan, it is also in a tax band lower so costs £180 a year.

Ian

2.0 TDi CR

That'll be the 6 speed then. I've never driven a DSG so can't offer an opinion on them, but the VAG 6 speed boxes are very slick. Being an ex biker (for now) and being used to gear changing being part of the driving pleasure they don't really hold any interest for me, though if I was doing high milage in todays stop start traffic I might consider one.

Ah, the good old manual vs. auto thread, wait a second lads, let me go get some popcorn!

All down to preference mate... you really need to test drive both as we all think different.. I have a DSG and it's fantastic for me as I love both worlds if I want to cruise the auto and we I wanna have fun which is alot I drive manual

After 19 months and 18K miles in a 2012 vRS CR MkII FL with DSG (my first auto in more than 45 years of driving) I can't see myself ever going back to a manual gearbox. I wouldn't have DSG without the steering wheel paddles though.

It's completely down to your own preference.

 

The only way you will know is to drive both, think about what you want out of the car and the type of journeys you do then decide!

 

We test drove our current car with DSG on a bit of a whim. Didn't pre-plan on getting an auto and no need for one etc but after the test drive we knew it was the right gearbox for us.

 

I'd never look back now.

 

But you may test drive one and hate it...

 

Phil

I love my DSG.

I drive manuals for hire cars from work but much much prefer my DSG.

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Lets face it. Sometimes you'd wish you were driving an automatic (or semi auto) ie when stuck in stop-start traffic for miles, and then there are other times when you'd enjoy flicking through a slick manual gearbox (car type optional) ie driving down some twisty country lanes, maybe.

So for me, the "better gearbox" all comes down to the type of driving I am doing and mostly how much traffic is on the roads at the time.

Good luck in your choice.

I wish I had an auto for the most part. But would miss a manual. So it's a no win situation for me I think.

DSG is great around town and in traffic queues, so if you do a lot of motorway miles probably DSG. If it's A and B road jaunts, then a manual every time

DSG is great around town and in traffic queues, so if you do a lot of motorway miles probably DSG. If it's A and B road jaunts, then a manual every time

Remember that you can drive the DSG as a manual using the selector - even better with the steering wheel paddles. Personally I drive in auto most of the time with occasional use of the paddles to over-ride the current DSG's selection to engage the right gear before an overtake, a sharp bend or down a steep hill. Sometimes select Sport for the steep downhill.

Remember that you can drive the DSG as a manual using the selector - even better with the steering wheel paddles. Personally I drive in auto most of the time with occasional use of the paddles to over-ride the current DSG's selection to engage the right gear before an overtake, a sharp bend or down a steep hill. Sometimes select Sport for the steep downhill.

I realise that, it's the way I drive it 90% of the time. I cannot see the point in auto sport mode, I never use it. D around town when cold and maybe on the m way. It's a clunky box though, particularly on open throttle up shifts. I find it best to lift off momentarily, let the box blip the throttle then press on again. A manual is just more fun and satisfying for spirited driving.

I realise that, it's the way I drive it 90% of the time. I cannot see the point in auto sport mode, I never use it. D around town when cold and maybe on the m way. It's a clunky box though, particularly on open throttle up shifts. I find it best to lift off momentarily, let the box blip the throttle then press on again. A manual is just more fun and satisfying for spirited driving.

 

To me that's when the gearbox is at it's smoothest. The gear change is so quick there's no time for any jerks or clunks.

 

The DSG can shift in 8 milliseconds!

Mash pedal and hold on, for fierce fast seamless smooth acceleration, HP dependant of course.

The traction control takes care of the rest

simples

I realise that, it's the way I drive it 90% of the time. I cannot see the point in auto sport mode, I never use it. D around town when cold and maybe on the m way. It's a clunky box though, particularly on open throttle up shifts. I find it best to lift off momentarily, let the box blip the throttle then press on again. A manual is just more fun and satisfying for spirited driving.

Your DSG may need checking; there are certainly no 'clunky' changes from mine, although the greater power/torque of your car over mine might make a difference. Sports model is certainly virtually useless in a diesel but I haven't tried Sport mode (or indeed DSG) with a petrol engine. The only use I have found for Sports mode is to encourage an additional down change (to negate the need for braking and for extra control) when travelling down hill.

It doesn't make a "clunk" sound, it was more of a description in the rather clumsy / jerky way that kickdown works. It's no different from a regular torque converter in that respect, there's a delay, a slight jerk as the lower ratio is engaged. I simply drive round it by lifting off slightly when changing down to accelerate harder.

It's very simple:

 

manual - robust, old school style, lasts "forever"

DSG - complicated design destined to fail, it's said you have to change a clutch every 100k km.

 

 

It all depends on your driving style and annual mileage.

 

I drive racing style and 30k km every year - guess what I would buy ;-)

 

You guess it right - straight cut dog gear box ;-)

The only gearboxes that are smooth up and down without any notice are CVTs (at least mine is). However the DSG isn't bad, when driving them I've only noticed the changes when you do something it doesn't expect.

I just has a Toyota Auris 1.6 Auto for a hire car.

It has a CVT.

OMG totally hated it compared to my DSG.

I like and most would probably agree that having the changes is kinda part of driving. I do 15-20k a year so have to be happy in my motor.

CVT doesnt seam to provide any feed back at all, and quite often leaving junctions was screaming itself to death high in the rev range, where as a DSG would have changed up and up and the take off from the line would have been and felt soo much smoother and even safer at times.

 

Saying that i absolutely love my DSG, works great on my PD right foot planted and just point the front end where you want it to go and hold on for the ride.

I have a petrol vrs and love the manual box

However have I never used a auto box