Well we went to Rainworth at the weekend with Mum and Dad who also have a Mk2 TSi.

 

We had between us two Mk1's and four Mk2's.

 

But we all agreed we wont be buying a Mk3. For a new car it doesn't feel special enough. The price has risen but there hasn't been a big jump in interior fixtures and fittings, it still feels firmly budget supermini and the prices don't reflect that.

We weren't impressed with the new seats either and the ride has firmed up without offering any real handling sparkle. It still feels like a PQ25 Mk2 just a bit firmer.

As sad as it sounds I've been "Enjoying" driving a 125bhp 1.0 Ecoboost Fiesta the last few weeks and yes I'd have one over the Mk3 even if the current Fiesta has a nightmare of a dash and less rear legroom.

 

It's a bit sad to be honest as we've had Fabia's for 12 years. I really wanted to like the Mk3 but the Mk2 was showing it's age and the Mk3 doesn't move the game on enough for me, especially with the pricing for a TSI DSG with decent spec.

 

I'll still probably replace my Passat with a VRS Octavia but our supermini will probably be another brand.

 

Lee

Sorry to hear you don't the MK3 Lee.

 

As for myself, I'm waiting to take delivery of a demonstrator Fabia Estate SE, probably next Friday.

 

In my opinion, the MK3 looks better than my current 3 year old Fabia Greenline Estate. My wife agrees with you about the seats, but I prefer the new seats, and I suffer with my back.

 

This time, I've chosen to go for the petrol engine.

 

 

Frank.

I also feel your sadness Lee. I've had 3 Fabias but can't see any hope of getting another. :-(

Each to their own - but I'd never buy a Ford even if Ford paid me to drive one..

 

The Mk3 is much better than the Mk2 in appearance.. the old people's Mk2 version just wasn't my scene at all..

 

I didn't think the Mk3 seats were a problem quite honestly in my test drive.. all seats need to be worked in at any rate.. 

 

Internal road noise is a lot lower in the Mk3 over previous versions and although admittedly I agree it's expensive for what it is.. all car's are expensive in this country for what you get.  A bluemotion Golf is £22000 and it's still just a bloody hatchback at the end of the day.. but remember, you're not limited to the dealer.. you can go online and easily get £2000+ knocked off the price a dealer will offer..

The Mk3 is much better than the Mk2 in appearance.. the old people's Mk2 version just wasn't my scene at all..

The mk3 estate is definitely an upgrade in the looks department, on the outside at least.

I had a chuckle at your "old peoples mk2" comment though.

The Mk3 is currently only available in pipe and slippers trim i.e S / SE / SEL.....

It also currently only has the shopping-trolley spec engines fitted.

Until there are sportier trim and engines available it doesn't strike me as a particularly youth orientated model, despite what skoda might like you to believe. :-)

The mk3 estate is definitely an upgrade in the looks department, on the outside at least.

I had a chuckle at your "old peoples mk2" comment though.

The Mk3 is currently only available in pipe and slippers trim i.e S / SE / SEL.....

It also currently only has the shopping-trolley spec engines fitted.

Until there are sportier trim and engines available it doesn't strike me as a particularly youth orientated model, despite what skoda might like you to believe. :-)

 

sorry, but the Mk2 just looks like a Pensioners-mobile.. nearly as ugly as Fiat Multipla..

 

Shopping trolley? Not sure about that, perhaps is S trim with a basic engine.. the i20 is definitely slow.  the TSi 1.2 can do 9.x seconds - not that slow really, and the 1.4TDi is only 10 seconds on the 0-60.. we're not talking Tesla timings here.. but then we're not paying Tesla prices are we?

 

The vRS has not been greenlit at all.. Skoda are very very quiet on the subject.. if they do it.. I would imagine it will be either a 1.4TDi 130BHp, I'm not sure they'd nick the polo 1.8 engine.. hmm.. anything is possible.. I don't think it makes sense for Skoda to start fitting a very big engine into front end of a Mk3 now.. the whole industry seems to be carrying on the fuel efficiency drive rather than the power drivetrain methodology.. Greenline is coming - probably 100+mpg to mirror the Bluemotion Polo.. also the Monte Carlo.. but that will be cosmetic rather than power.. not really what the 'brisk'skodians are probably after either.. until we hear anything official, that's it from Skoda for now..

 

apart from discontinuing the Rapid.. which is probably going to happen very soon!!!

 

oh.. and you missed off the flat-cap with the pipe and slippers jibe

sorry, but the Mk2 just looks like a Pensioners-mobile.. nearly as ugly as Fiat Multipla..

 

Shopping trolley? Not sure about that, perhaps is S trim with a basic engine.. the i20 is definitely slow.  the TSi 1.2 can do 9.x seconds - not that slow really, and the 1.4TDi is only 10 seconds on the 0-60.. we're not talking Tesla timings here.. but then we're not paying Tesla prices are we?

 

Haha I don't think I ever said the Mk2 didn't look like a pensioner-mobile?

And I agreed the mk3 does look smarter than than the mk2 in many ways. It's still a pensioner-special though. A huge proportion of buyers will be "of a certain age" , I assure you.

At least the mk2 had a vRS version with a half-decent amount of power. Wolf in Sheeps clothing and all that. Shame there will allegedly be no mk3 vRS.

No wonder there is virtually no enthusiasm for the new model on this forum. If you've ordered one I can fully understand you defending your purchase though.... :-)

the MKIII is an improvement over the MKII, but I am not convince yet it is value for money

 

the engine line up is not an issue, I quite like a sedatory drive (not quite ready for the flat cap on a sunday)

 

my GLII with only 75PS has been more than capable for my requirements, so a TSi 90 would be an upgrade, my only issue is most features I want are options which push the price to a level I question, or I look at other makes

 

also like the polo if it is a factory order you gain a long delay

 

I think the days of high power engines are limited due to EU emission regulations which have killed diesel MPG with exhaust clean up ( DPF and NOx reduction )

 

when I learnt to drive in a MK I escort they were 1100cc  and 45-50 hp, and these were perfectly adequate, what we drive now is not far off a rally spec car from then as far as power and handling 

 

I tried to arrange a test drive for tomorrow but the salesman I deal is off sick so yet to actually sit in one, I have looked round the outside of one and not overly impressed

Haha I don't think I ever said the Mk2 didn't look like a pensioner-mobile?

And I agreed the mk3 does look smarter than than the mk2 in many ways. It's still a pensioner-special though. A huge proportion of buyers will be "of a certain age" , I assure you.

At least the mk2 had a vRS version with a half-decent amount of power. Wolf in Sheeps clothing and all that. Shame there will allegedly be no mk3 vRS.

No wonder there is virtually no enthusiasm for the new model on this forum. If you've ordered one I can fully understand you defending your purchase though.... :-)

 

It's not that I have to defend the Mk3.. I just think it's back to the more aesthetically pleasing looks of the Mk1 (that's why I like it).. when I get my Mk3 in a few weeks, I'm going to make sure I take a photo of it sat alongside my Mk1.. I don't think there's much difference between the two, maybe just a little wider on the Mk3..

 

I also don't mind the fact that it's only 103.5BHp.. it will do.  my current 1.9TDi was rated at 100BHp, so as far as I'm concerned it should have the torque on the motorway to get me where I want to.. and it will do the job just fine.  It may be overpriced for a lot of people.. but I get a car for the long term, not the interim, I've had 12.5 years out of my Mk1.. which is good going at any rate for car these days which most people will argue they are not designed to last in a capitalist world.. I'd like to think the Mk3 will give me a good return on my investment in a similar way.

Mr.skodaTDI,

 

I may be approaching pension age, but I was very pleased with the looks of my current Fabia Estate Greenline. Now it's 3 years old, I'm looking forward to my new Fabia Estate, and I think it looks great, and drives well.

 

Regarding expensive prices; 16 years ago, I purchased top of range Multipla for approx. £16k!  Since then, my next 3 cars cost £12K!  I replaced my Multipla with top of range Doblo ( do not laugh! ), which I still own, it being almost 11 years old. Still going strong a good load lugger for visiting our local dump.  Next was an Octavia Estate, but the mistake I made was MPI!! :(  After 10 months of low mpg, but very comfortable ownership, I swapped MPI for my current Greenline.

 

By the way, my wife still raves about our old Multipla.  It had very comfortable seating and was a joy to drive. You can tell, I don't care how a car looks!

 

 

Frank.

Lets be honest about styling here, the Mk2 and Mk3 Fabias are just clones of the Polo's launched in 02 and 09 respectively, so were/are already well behind the latest "fashion" looks wise.

A 'clone' is an identical copy.  So ugly sisters maybe, but hardly Cloned.  

Some people do not like the sleek/stubby/sporty/frumpy look of a Polo, if the did they would maybe buy a Polo.

I loved my mk1 styling, wasn't a fan of the mk2, have on order amk3 which I immediately likened to the styling of my first Fabia and an pleased about that. I also live the multipla for its out there charm and the doblo for lugging workhorse esp in high top.

And I know it's not all about bhp, but I went for the biggest currently offered in the mk3 - the petrol tsi in 110. This was to strike a balance between the power and efficiency I wanted and the smoothness of the power when you get in it. The diesel seemed really unpredictable and jerky.

I hope that the six speed box will enable me to cruise with economy when I want to.

My final point on the price is my lease hire through my company purchase with this will over three years and estimated 65000 miles only cost me £4k. There's no way I could commit to the full purchase of a new Fabia 3 otherwise. In fact I really did consider getting another mk1 and then I would have tried to find the most powerful 1.4 16v first year of production model again.

That is some cheap lease deal, or is that just how much it will cost you worked out to be £4,000.

 

What is the sort of Invoice Price is the car as supplied and Monthly cost of the lease, ?

because it can not be only £111 with a near 22,000 miles a year.

 

http://carleasingmadesimple.com/business-car-leasing/skoda/fabia-hatchback_3

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This is the first time I'll be leasing, but it's through my company so they pay a proportion of the cost. It's definitely only going to be a total of £4100 over the three years, to me, but I've no idea what the company put up. I will be able to claim mileage though too, so OK I'll buy fuel, but a proportion of that will be back to me and reducing the monthly cost further. I was told it was a good deal and it certainly seemed a good option for me to get a brand new Fabia without stumping up the money in front. But the alternative was to buy my own car and claim a higher mileage rate, but without the new cars warranty and the peace of mine motoring this worked out best. what would other (normal) lease rates look like then?

Following that link you posted the 1.2 petrol tsi 110 would be 178 a month plus vat. I've no idea whether my price will include vat or not actually, but it seems that it's cheaper for me through the company but not that wildly out really.

Looked at the new Fabia yesterday; seems to be well put together and equipped.

Absolutely no chance of me buying a Skoda next as they've axed the vRS Fabia.

My Wife will probably buy one, as she doesn't care if it does 0-60 eventually.

Tony 

That is some cheap lease deal, or is that just how much it will cost you worked out to be £4,000.

 

What is the sort of Invoice Price is the car as supplied and Monthly cost of the lease, ?

because it can not be only £111 with a near 22,000 miles a year.

 

http://carleasingmadesimple.com/business-car-leasing/skoda/fabia-hatchback_3

 

 

I also had a look at leasing a diesel DSG SEL Mk3 and the figures were coming back around £250 a month incl VAT on a  6+36.

 

A bit stupid really as it's similar money for a Golf GTD.

 

Lee

Looked at the new Fabia yesterday; seems to be well put together and equipped.

Absolutely no chance of me buying a Skoda next as they've axed the vRS Fabia.

My Wife will probably buy one, as she doesn't care if it does 0-60 eventually.

Tony 

thing is with the average emissions for a manufacturer over the  next 5-10 years dropping massively the days of 150+PS engines are numbered I think

 

so unless like f1 you end up with hybrid and energy recovery we are all heading for 0-60 sometime engines

 

but when I started driving my first car a triumph herald topped out at about 65mph as it only had about 35-40hp from the 1250cc engine with an old SU carb

 

like everything we are coming full circle and back at low power engine of the 60's and 70's (just so long as fuel vouchers don't come back !!!)

Interesting comments from all I've just read.

 

I am on my third Fabia MK1, two from new left hookers when abroad ( a silver 100bhp 1.4 16v and a red 1.9 TDI PD Vrs) and the third a red Vrs secondhand (no longer made) on return to Southampton UK which is on a 56 plate and done a lowly 38,000 miles.

But it is still worth money at present for a good trade-in and am on the verge of buying a new petrol Fabia Mk III. Dilemma wait until the ACT 150 ps or 122 ps is available (if ever) or go for a 110 ps hoping fuel consumption and performance is not too far away from my Vrs.

Any help here?

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No vRS, so nothing to interest me :(.

Stick a 1.8T with DSG in the MKIII and it could be game on though.

My dear friends,

 

I cannot believe the negativity on this thread - just what is the problem?

 

Like a spoiled brat child, I can't wait for 10am Friday morning, in order to collect my new metallic white Skoda Fabia Estate 1.2 Petrol SE model, and away I go!

 

Same afternoon I cruise up M4 to go to Cardiff to visit my son and his family, who will discover I got new wheels!

 

Saturday afternoon, no doubt my sonny boy will drive up M4 for Heathrow, his wife and grandson on a 2 week visit to Malaysia. My son will no doubt discover how fast we can go!

 

I for one shall enjoy my new car, regardless!

 

 

 

 

Frank.

My dear friends,

 

I cannot believe the negativity on this thread - just what is the problem?

 

Like a spoiled brat child, I can't wait for 10am Friday morning, in order to collect my new metallic white Skoda Fabia Estate 1.2 Petrol SE model, and away I go!

 

Same afternoon I cruise up M4 to go to Cardiff to visit my son and his family, who will discover I got new wheels!

 

Saturday afternoon, no doubt my sonny boy will drive up M4 for Heathrow, his wife and grandson on a 2 week visit to Malaysia. My son will no doubt discover how fast we can go!

 

I for one shall enjoy my new car, regardless!

 

 

 

 

Frank.

Get used to it frankman, ever since the Fabia III was announced with no vRS version the doom merchants have been at it.

My dear friends,

 

I cannot believe the negativity on this thread - just what is the problem?

 

Like a spoiled brat child, I can't wait for 10am Friday morning, in order to collect my new metallic white Skoda Fabia Estate 1.2 Petrol SE model, and away I go!

 

Same afternoon I cruise up M4 to go to Cardiff to visit my son and his family, who will discover I got new wheels!

 

Saturday afternoon, no doubt my sonny boy will drive up M4 for Heathrow, his wife and grandson on a 2 week visit to Malaysia. My son will no doubt discover how fast we can go!

 

I for one shall enjoy my new car, regardless!

 

 

 

 

Frank.

enjoy your new car, I intend to enjoy mine on 1st march, just a shame it is not a skoda

 

but the new fabia for me does not fit my requirements

 

there is nothing like collecting a new car and taking it on a run to try it out, but don't push it to hard until you run it in a bit

yes many people are complaining that the Skodas have become too expensive and not worth it. Though I have to say, I've always been a VW fan. Since the new models have been introduced, starting from the MQB Octavia, I've just ordered my second Skoda. I would never have considered a Skoda pre-MQB/2015 models, but now that I own a 2015 Skoda, if I was buying another car, I'd probably take a look at older Skodas. All thanks to marketing and a better brand image now than just 2 years ago.

 

VW is still more expensive and at this point for me, I'd rather put my money on more extra specs or a better engine. I especially like the Fabia, as, at least in Sweden, there are some great deals on the Fabia, which is not possible to get on a Polo for example. To each his own, but I'm completely on board in choosing a Fabia Estate 110 with almost full spec, for the same price as an entry level Polo. Don't get me wrong, I would love a Polo, but it would have been much more expensive if I was to spec it like my Fabia Estate on order.