I'd never heard of them until using this site but having heard 'ceramic' and 'coat' or 'sealant' here a fair bit and in relation to wheels mainly, and having just bought a set of rims I'm curious.  I gather it is a durable sealant that bonds to the paint or lacquer. I presume like other sealants it protects the paint and makes it easier to clean.  Yes?

I googled for ceramic, think my fu was weak, as i only found websites for trade suppliers and pro detailers.  Are there diy ceramic products?

I did notice one product mentioned by name which I presume is a ceramic, carbon collective. Googled that and found 15ml bottles on eBay at £27. So it's not cheap then. Does it go a long way? How much would that bottle do? One set of rims? Two maybe? Do I need anything special to apply it, or is diy straight forward? Are there other products? Which is best for a newbie to try?

Lots of questions!  Grateful for a bit of a steer, thanks.

Better off buying from Bearswaxfactory... here---> http://www.bearswaxfactory.co.uk/carbon-collective-platinum-wheels-748-p.asp

 

Don't forget to use BRISK75 at checkout for an extra 7.5% off your order

 

Best stuff you will ever buy for your wheels, the crud just falls off.

 

Basically it coats it like a second skin, and if applied correctly it can last up to two years. It is a small bottle but you only need a few drops for each wheel.

 

Just put a couple of drops on a little applicator pad (similar to the cotton pads that women usually have for makeup removal) and coat the wheel, using a different pad now and again so it doesn't drop cotton wool bits all over.

You only get 1 pad in with the bottle, but SWMBO had some more in the house already.

Leave it to go tacky, and then wipe with a cloth.

You can do another coat later if you desire.

That little bottle should do a few sets of rims, as you don't use too much when doing a wheel.

That sounds simple, thanks.

As Damo says

CC Platinum is a supeb product and really easy to apply

Just make sure the wheels are ultra clean first..IPA is ideal

I'd never heard of them until using this site but having heard 'ceramic' and 'coat' or 'sealant' here a fair bit and in relation to wheels mainly, and having just bought a set of rims I'm curious.  I gather it is a durable sealant that bonds to the paint or lacquer. I presume like other sealants it protects the paint and makes it easier to clean.  Yes?

I googled for ceramic, think my fu was weak, as i only found websites for trade suppliers and pro detailers.  Are there diy ceramic products?

I did notice one product mentioned by name which I presume is a ceramic, carbon collective. Googled that and found 15ml bottles on eBay at £27. So it's not cheap then. Does it go a long way? How much would that bottle do? One set of rims? Two maybe? Do I need anything special to apply it, or is diy straight forward? Are there other products? Which is best for a newbie to try?

Lots of questions!  Grateful for a bit of a steer, thanks.

`fu`? (new one on me)

As Damo says

CC Platinum is a supeb product and really easy to apply

Just make sure the wheels are ultra clean first..IPA is ideal

Thank you Chris.  Good clean, then apply, got it.

 

Google-fu.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=google-fu

So...instead of saying "My computer is slow" you say "My fu is weak" and everyone is supposed to know what you mean?

 

Un-flippin believable.

So...instead of saying "My computer is slow" you say "My fu is weak" and everyone is supposed to know what you mean?

 

Un-flippin believable.

No, it's nothing to do with computer speed, it's operator ability. Sometimes you can't seem to find the right search terms. 

Like you Mike, I go with the flow and pick it up...Im afraid its a generation thing

'Life long learning' as I used to say when I was teaching

Like you Mike, I go with the flow and pick it up...Im afraid its a generation thing

'Life long learning' as I used to say when I was teaching

I do try to keep up with it, Chris, but as a bit of a `wordsmith` it does get to me at times.

Gents, language evolves. It evolves particularly rapidly when it's used to describe part of life that is changing.  20 years, no 15 years ago 'google' wasnt a word in common use. Yes you could say 'searched the internet witha web-crawler based, cloud hosted, free at point of use search tool' but the verb 'to Google' entered our language and describes it perfectly.  Google-fu, one's ability to search successfully came along soon after.

 

It's all good, there's nothing rude or misleading about these new words which describe common new actions well.  However, if you were confused by my choice of words, I'm sorry. In my experience, someone that is digitally literate, and someone with over a thousand posts on a web forum is digitally literate, would normally understand the word.

 

I'm a bit bemused by your generation comment, I suspect you think I'm 20+ years younger than I am.  I'm not trying to be 'down with the kids', I thought I was merely using language appropriate to a web forum to describe the problem.

I understand your point fully.

However, where I would grant you that `Google` is in common use, I would contest that `fu` is not...yet.

I would be very grateful if anyone other than `neiln` can honestly say its a would they use.

Many thanks.

Mike.

I understand your point fully.

However, where I would grant you that `Google` is in common use, I would contest that `fu` is not...yet.

I would be very grateful if anyone other than `neiln` can honestly say its a would they use.

Many thanks.

Mike.

Sorry, that should read `Word` not `Would`.

I understand your point fully.

However, where I would grant you that `Google` is in common use, I would contest that `fu` is not...yet.

I would be very grateful if anyone other than `neiln` can honestly say its a would they use.

Many thanks.

Mike.

I cant honestly recall whether I've heard the exact term or not, and maybe not a term i would tend towards, but IMO in the context it worked perfectly to describe his issue. Nothing wrong with a cheeky bit of wordplay. And well, if you dont understand something, well, google it - something I've had to do plenty since chancing across this subforum. (SWMBO had me puzzled at first, I assumed it was the name of a member)

In case my post was misinterpreted, I use abbreviations and have no problem with them. As has been said, its language evolving……In the same way that technology evolves....Embrace it and learn it if necessary

 

I don’t think Mike was complaining about it, just bemusement at not understanding it I guess

Perhaps its best to get back on topic now eh?

Agreed. Sorry to go off topic.

From what I have read it appears these ceramic coatings are only allowed to be applied by approved detailers, which seems a little discriminatory.  How tough can it really be for a seasoned veteran who may decide not to be accredited to someone like Gtechniq.

Ah, so it wasn't weak fu (poor searching), they really are a bit 'restricted'? Is this just manufacturers limiting the product as a way to maximise profits or is there some issue if not applied correctly? The excellent advice from Damo and Chris above makes it seem simple, easier than wax.

From what I have read it appears these ceramic coatings are only allowed to be applied by approved detailers, which seems a little discriminatory.  How tough can it really be for a seasoned veteran who may decide not to be accredited to someone like Gtechniq.

It's not tough if good prep work is done, some co's only guarantee the work/durability if carried out by approved detailers.

It's not tough if good prep work is done, some co's only guarantee the work/durability if carried out by approved detailers.

 

My previous customers would approve me, but because I choose not to be accredited, I lose out?  I can see the point on prep but I know how to prep a car and so would many "hobby" detailers.

 

I've just ordered some carpro hydro2 so shall see how that does as it sounds a little bit like a ceramic coating, although think its more polymer based.   Spray on, rinse off, job done.

That looks an interesting product.  Do share your thoughts once you've tried it please.

My previous customers would approve me, but because I choose not to be accredited, I lose out?  I can see the point on prep but I know how to prep a car and so would many "hobby" detailers.

 

I've just ordered some carpro hydro2 so shall see how that does as it sounds a little bit like a ceramic coating, although think its more polymer based.   Spray on, rinse off, job done.

I totally agree with you, I suppose it's their way of getting out of any durability issues, ie you/me apply it. Owner says it's only lasted X amount of months which is well below what manufacturer says. Manufacturer says, guarantee is on,y if accredited has applied it

From what I have read it appears these ceramic coatings are only allowed to be applied by approved detailers, which seems a little discriminatory.  How tough can it really be for a seasoned veteran who may decide not to be accredited to someone like Gtechniq.

It isnt tough at all Jason..They are easier than their advertising would suggest...Maybe some use the 'approved'' label to make it more exclusive

However...with all these products.........Preparation is key

Some of them need to be uv lamp cured as well plus a very accurate application method and timing which means they can be very hard to do by someone untrained.

Yes indeed...BUT not all

The couple I have used and recommend certainly dont need that