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Help...Is your gear change 'notchy' ?

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I have had a Yeti (the good looking one) for 4 years now and have owned it since new. It has only done 41,000 km's and is in pristine condition.

 

Recently, a 'component' broke in the clutch. I took the car to the garage and the clutch had to be replaced. Skoda paid half and we had to pay paid half. We found this unfair given the the component (everyone admitted) should not break. Anyway, we have fallen out with the garage as we were hoping for a commercial gesture from them as well as Skoda in reducing the bill. We expected one as we had spent over 14,000 euros with them over the last two years with servicing, fitting a tow bar and buying a new car ect ect ect. Anyway, they were not having any of it. Not even a free hours labour. So more fool them, as we won't go back.

 

The problem is that since getting the car back I find changing the gear change very 'notchy'. It was 'notchy' before (like many cars these days) but I find it even worse now since the clutch change. The gear leaver clonks (you can feel it) when putting it into first. 

 

I am not a mechanic so could changing the clutch make the gear change become 'notchy' ? Does your Yeti have a 'notchy' gear change ? Is it in my head ?

 

Hope someone could offer some advice/help.

You may have air in the system which is not giving you full clearance being a new clutch with full depth.

Bleed it and that might solve it quickly and for nothing more than top-up fluid.

Have you tried pumping the clutch and then quickly selecting first?

That would probably confirm air in the hydraulic system.

(It has only done 41,000 km's) ......25,000 miles.

Nothing in the Clutch should go at that mileage.

 

Can you tell us What the " component " was.

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I can't tell you what the exact component is as my OH was dealing with it because the French way above my head. 

 

What started off as a slight ticking noise when driving turned into (after a few days) a loud 'whipping' sound at idle. It only disappeared when the clutch was depressed. The clutch worked fine but it sounded like something was disintegrating when disengaged.

 

I was looking for the paperwork this morning to get a better idea in order to write this thread but it is in the car and the car is away for a few days with my OH. I can't yet test the theory proposed by Ryeman.

 

I was just wondering what other peoples gear changes are like with their Yeti. Is is slick, a little bit clonky, stiff now and again ??? Notchy. We have an VW Up (bought from new) which is a slick (although very noisy from new) gear change. The Yeti has always been OK but not perfect. I just think it has got worse. 

 

I am not getting good vibes with VAG gearboxes and clutches. I can't see either car lasting the distance.

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Just a guess....the 'whipping' sound could be from a distorted component or one not seated squarely during reassembly.

It sounds like a poorly done, rushed job.

The 'alignment' needs to be spot on for the spinning components to come together smoothly when moving off from stationary in first - that's the critical test, not so much 'on the move' where a good change has both the clutch plate AND the flywheel at the same speed at engagement.

Any half decent trans specialist should have little trouble correctly diagnosing it.

The 'whipping' sound is the worst problem as it looks like a refit is needed....then a proper bleed.

I'm assuming the Dual Mass Flywheel is not the problem to start with of course.....((((

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(It has only done 41,000 km's) ......25,000 miles.

Nothing in the Clutch should go at that mileage.

 

Can you tell us What the " component " was.

 

That depends on how it is driven!

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That depends on how it is driven!

The failure was the result of a failed component not the way the car has been driven. As I understand it the part was doomed for failure the day it was made. Imagine a small hidden fracture in the casting of the part. Skoda were quick to accept half the cost of the repair which is not bad given the car is out of warranty. Maybe there was a small batch of these parts that were a bit iffy and the problem was already known to them on a number of cars. We pushed for 100 % but after a week of debate Skoda refused. I don't know why they did not go back to the supplier of the part and get them to accept the costs. Perhaps they did and they made themselves a few bob. As I understand it the part passed quality control both at the supplier end and at the plant end. Very unfair for us to pay 700 euros for something beyond our control. 

 

Anyway, back to notchy gear changes. Would anybody like to describe their Yeti gear change on the pre Kryten model. Or is it a typoo subject describing ones gear change. Basically I just want to know if the Yeti gear change is a little 'notchy' or not on other Yeti. I might be imagining a problem that is not there. The car drives fine but the gear change is annoying me.

Are you pushing the clutch in further than before, seeing its now got a new clutch?

Is it still notchy when the gearbox oil is hot?

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Are you pushing the clutch in further than before, seeing its now got a new clutch?

Is it still notchy when the gearbox oil is hot?

 

 

Hmmm. No, but the clutch is a lot smoother and less hard to push in than before. The car being hot does not change anything.

 

The gear change can one minute by quite slick (no notchyness/clunking) and the next minute (lets say you arrive at a junction and put it into first) and it is nochy again. It is not a fluid movement. It is lumpy through neutral. There is no problem putting it into gear it just feels uncomfortable. It is like you have to be really precise in the way that you change gear in order for it to be slick. Like I said, it was kinda like that before but not as bad. 

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Gearbox oil temp, on the cold side, can make the synchros baulk more than when hot, particularly when changing from first to second.

Not sure if I am missing it but I cannot see if you are talking DSG or manual box.

 

I had my 1.2TSi clutch replaced at 5500 miles. Its the manual 6 speed box.

 

I would go back to the garage that replaced your...even if you have burnt bridges.

 

Just a point, the garage that replaced my clutch upset the steering geometry which I had re-set by a third party to prove I was correct.

 

I also took it in for a sunroof drain issue and the KESSY did not work after. I told them where to look for the drain fault but they ignored that and removed the rear bumper, upsetting a connection related to the rear sensors. Yet another visit to get that sorted.

 

It's not all plain sailing with new cars.

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To me, it's a two-edged sword have my car serviced because I'm stuck with a VW service outlet and Skoda tends to be the 'second division' leaving me with no great confidence .....they didn't bother putting the screws that hold the under tray to the wheel arch liners back in....makes it more convenient for them but just a bit 'previous' for my liking....fixed price servicing may contribute to short cuts......just not sure.

Mine (a CR170, so 6-speed manual) has always felt really "clonky" when pulling the gearlever towards you (so going into 2nd and 4th....maybe 6th too, I can't remember).

It was like that when I bought it around 29k miles, and still the same now on ~51k miles. Same whether hot or cold.

I know this is not a Skoda but had same on a Grand Vitara. It was a known/common fault on the diesel, and more evident in cold weathe. Had new gearbox parts fitted at part expense. Suzuki paid £1000 I paid £700. It was better after but still not brilliant.

Firstly I'd try by resetting the gearbox linkage. This not being right can result in a really notchy gear changes.

 

The video is for a mk4 platform, but it should be similar enough.

 

That looks so easy...with hardware out of the vehicle.

I don't know the yeti platform, but it usually just needs the battery removing to get to the gearbox.

Anyone ever made, or had a garage to make the adjustment shown in the video?  

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