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Stay or go? VRS or Cupra?

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One way to market your car I guess.

 

Hope you make the correct decision and enjoy whatever you get. (Ex - mk3 Octavia vRS owner.)

I thought you had the S3, must be thinking of someone else although genuinely struggling to make a decision as the VRS has been that good,

 

I'm likely to stick with the VRS to be honest and spend a little on her.

 

Like you say, whatever the decision, I'm sure I'll enjoy it  :D  :D

Stop it, must resist selecting the link and emailing, must resist  :D  :D

What harm can an email do?  Enquire......ask iftheydo one for our box....casually ask a price, including fitting bolts....

Keep the vrs, mapped she is a real keeper. Great brakes. Never felt the suspension wanting. Have you vcds? If so try adapting the xds intervention to strong. I found with a good set of tyres this made a real difference. And I do know what a mechanical diff feels like.

I've run several intakes and found the k and n panel filter to be the best. Exhaust, a cheap and simple mod is removal of the centre resonator which is just below drivers seat. I have a pal who has spent close to £700 on a milltek cat back and mine sounds almost identical for less than £100.

Tell boy out of interest what turbo revision are you running

TBH I looked around the SEAT and thought the interior looked/felt inferior to the Octy's.

If you can live with that, it may scratch your itch, but I think you may end up regretting it.

If you don't need the space, then there are other avenues to chase ;)

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What harm can an email do?  Enquire......ask iftheydo one for our box....casually ask a price, including fitting bolts....

Might just accidentally on purpose ping one over,....

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Had a Passat before and sorry to say was the most un reliable car I have ever owned, plus it was the R36 which was meant to be their top of the range job. The new BiTDI with haldex does sound promising, however not the greatest handling car out there and whilst a step up from the last passat, after sitting in one for half an hour and then getting back in to the VRS, I just felt the VRS wasn't that bad in terms of overall quality compared to the new passat, the gap in terms of quality wasn't that big. 

 

I also have to say the new passat isn't a great looking motor in either guise  :no:  :no:, however each to their own I guess.

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TBH I looked around the SEAT and thought the interior looked/felt inferior to the Octy's.

If you can live with that, it may scratch your itch, but I think you may end up regretting it.

If you don't need the space, then there are other avenues to chase ;)

True, having spent time in the Seat I can see where you are coming from. I also do need the space, however if I could compromise, would welcome your thoughts on which other avenues you'd consider?

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Tell boy out of interest what turbo revision are you running

I'm on the stock turbo from factory, not sure what revision/version it is, have heard about the ones that went pop in the Golf R etc.

 

Have to say mines been running with the extra power for over 25k miles now so touch wood  :D  :D

well possibly the BMW 328i for a small drop in space, although I have to admit the step up in quality and comfort was no were near what I was expecting on the sub 500 mile 3 series I test drove for a couple of hours.

A lot less rear legroom and you could look at a Jag XE-R sport.

I looked at both previous to deciding on the second Octy vRS, Jag had way to tight rear leg room, BMW (I was actually looking at a 320i m-Sport) I couldn't get were I wanted financially after an unexpected house move !

There is always the Golf R and A4 Quattro if you want to stay within the VW family :)

 

Who mapped your car BTW ?

Is the Octavia III vRS maybe up for sale then privately.?

 

What is it actually, 

Is it a Standard Engine & DSG but Remapped by Superchips so no Skoda Manufacturers Warranty valid on the Engine just a Superchips Guarantee - Warranty and no Extended Warranty will be valid because it is remapped?

 

Any other Modifications and upgrades, 

& what sort of offer would buy it from you?

Hmmm a fair chunk of money per month for not alot extra; given your vRS is quicker than a standard one.

Jury is out for me on the Cupra.....I think in isolation its a great little car and for its sticker price arguably better than even the Golf R, I really rather like the whole big power LSD front wheel drive arrangement. I gather the Cupra has a slightly better power to weight ratio too and its been suggested that a Cupra once off the mark is probably a bit quicker than an R in a straight line.

That said and done I have a couple of reservations.......Seat has a pretty poor brand identity in my view.....its decisively second tier to Skoda IMHO, never mind VW.

Its dare I say it a little chavvy in an Astra VXR way...in a few years time when they are all the more affordable every road racing idiot will be driving one :-)

Finally depreciation.......they can already be had as ex demo for not far north of 20k...which given most of them are spec'd 30ish K cars just shouts how badly their value will plummet.

If I were considering such a change if it were my money id be getting a Mk7 GTI PP. Not as fast but a million times more desirable (in my eyes) with better looks, design and detailing and although slower its probably as good to drive. Mapped it would be superb.

As things stand Id suggest just sticking with the vRS.

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well possibly the BMW 328i for a small drop in space, although I have to admit the step up in quality and comfort was no were near what I was expecting on the sub 500 mile 3 series I test drove for a couple of hours.

A lot less rear legroom and you could look at a Jag XE-R sport.

I looked at both previous to deciding on the second Octy vRS, Jag had way to tight rear leg room, BMW (I was actually looking at a 320i m-Sport) I couldn't get were I wanted financially after an unexpected house move !

There is always the Golf R and A4 Quattro if you want to stay within the VW family :)

 

Who mapped your car BTW ?

Great list there although like you did try the BMW pre the VRS and wasn't that impressed, not considered the Jag although had heard rear leg room was an issue.

 

My car was the development car used by Superchips.

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Is the Octavia III vRS maybe up for sale then privately.?

 

What is it actually, 

Is it a Standard Engine & DSG but Remapped by Superchips so no Skoda Manufacturers Warranty valid on the Engine just a Superchips Guarantee - Warranty and no Extended Warranty will be valid because it is remapped?

 

Any other Modifications and upgrades, 

& what sort of offer would buy it from you?

Hi mate, mines not up for sale so not sure which member has one up for sale, defo not me.

 

As for engine, it's remapped by SC with 3 year warranty by them, local dealer know the car and have no issues with it being mapped although admittedly, it hasn't needed anything in 25k miles so happy there.

 

I owe £16.5k on the car and was offered £14.5k by a Seat dealer which I thought wasn't too bad considering the mileage at 38k.

 

At one point work were asking us all to go back in to a diesel car scheme which has now been dropped so I can stay in a private car and take the money every month.

 

To go in to another car I'd be looking at about £2k neg equity if I traded the car so would have to sell privately anyway.

 

Anyways, it would be too slow for you  :D  :D

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Hmmm a fair chunk of money per month for not alot extra; given your vRS is quicker than a standard one.

Jury is out for me on the Cupra.....I think in isolation its a great little car and for its sticker price arguably better than even the Golf R, I really rather like the whole big power LSD front wheel drive arrangement. I gather the Cupra has a slightly better power to weight ratio too and its been suggested that a Cupra once off the mark is probably a bit quicker than an R in a straight line.

That said and done I have a couple of reservations.......Seat has a pretty poor brand identity in my view.....its decisively second tier to Skoda IMHO, never mind VW.

Its dare I say it a little chavvy in an Astra VXR way...in a few years time when they are all the more affordable every road racing idiot will be driving one :-)

Finally depreciation.......they can already be had as ex demo for not far north of 20k...which given most of them are spec'd 30ish K cars just shouts how badly their value will plummet.

If I were considering such a change if it were my money id be getting a Mk7 GTI PP. Not as fast but a million times more desirable (in my eyes) with better looks, design and detailing and although slower its probably as good to drive. Mapped it would be superb.

As things stand Id suggest just sticking with the vRS.

Mate has a MK7 GTI, it's the PP and I get to drive it about once a month through work and have to say I never feel short changed getting back in to mine, his is stock so getting back in to mine does put a smile on my face and for the most part on the majority of typical routes I take, my VRS handles as well as the PP albeit of course on track is where the difference would show.

Telboy5,  thanks.

  It was your car i meant in would you sell privately, my bad wording.

 

A bit rich in price for what it is other wise i would have been interested i just though it might have been available cheaper.

As to the potential for going fast, i am sure it is nippy enough, a Seat Leon Cupra 280 gets along OK for me at NSL's even standard.

I'm on the stock turbo from factory, not sure what revision/version it is, have heard about the ones that went pop in the Golf R etc.

 

Have to say mines been running with the extra power for over 25k miles now so touch wood  :D  :D

Stay away from the limiter. What age she?

Without wishing to stray from topic, what's the problem with the turbos Parsey83,  and what years are affected ?

Then go for Superb 280 4x4 DSG. Its going to drink all the fuel in the world but who cares. Three girlfriends fit in the back comfortably.

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