Boxster and Cayman 4 pot coming soon.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/porsche/porsche-readies-new-9812-boxster-and-cayman---with-4-cylinder-power/

Interesting... thanks for posting!

Diluting the brand I think , like they did with the 924 (Audi engine) what makes Porsche engines special is the sound and sticking a turbo on and reducing cylinders makes it no different to mainstream manufacturers. Probably just a reworked vag engines and the 2.5 out of the RS3 

I agree Alan

The 928, 924, 944 were not proper Porsches in the true sense of the word

Their build quality was carp too

Porsche / Volkswagen Group will not be selling them that cheaply, 

they want £40,000 for Hatchbacks like the Audi S3 & Golf R's.

£40,000 now for a Boxster / Cayman at the lowest RRP's.

 

You are at £30,000 plus RRP's for Toyota GT86 / Subaru BRZ's with any decent power.

(Under £25,000 gets you what they sell out the show room now.)

New MX-5s at £24,000 or less at least means you can have a 2 Seat Convertible new at more affordable prices.

I know they won't be SELLING them cheaper, just making them cheaper  :no:

A wee point, going with 4 pots turbos,

they are unlikely to be using 2.5 5 pots reworked.    That would be going 5 Pot turbo.

 

They are going less parts, less weight, less friction lower emissions.

People seem to think a VW 3 pot 1.0 N/A sounds Porsche like,  

so there you go, a Light Weight VW Engined 3 Cylinder Porsche and sorted.

I agree Alan

The 928, 924, 944 were not proper Porsches in the true sense of the word

Their build quality was carp too

There's nothing wrong with the 924/4/8 build quality and whilst they might not be fettered to quite the same degree as similar vintage 911's, they're tough cars.

 

To purists, they were never going to replace the 911, but they did broaden the appeal of the marque and gave people (particularly with the 928) the option not to reverse in to hedges.

 

924 was built as a result of the oil crisis and though not particularly sporty, it did evolve into the 944 which had a Porsche developed engine and was generally well regarded.

 

928 was very advanced at the time (compared to the 911) having an un-lined aluminium block (first for a car), first use of anti-lock brakes on a GT car, near 50-50 weight distribution, first car with covered bumpers and the Weissach rear axle that gave passive rear wheel steering. It is also the only sports car to have won the European Car of the Year award (though it's true to say that other past winners have included the Fiat 127, Simca 1307 and the Mk3 Escort, so it might not have quite so much credibility in the car world!).

 

My search for the right 928, in the right condition and at the right price started two years ago and continues to the present day.

Good luck with the search

As to the 928 Engine and the first un-lined aluminium block, first for a car.

Was that a good thing?

 

This was maybe not Unlined, but it was Aluminium & Cast in ribbed liners.

(& rear engine, rear wheel drive.)

VW were going to do it with the Up!,  

and Mercedes / Renault have with the Smart / Twingo, it makes sense again.

http://imps4ever.info/tech/engine.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillman_Imp

http://imps4ever.info/index.html

'Poor man's Porsche 911'

As to the 928 Engine and the first un-lined aluminium block, first for a car.

Was that a good thing?

Yes, they'll easily take 200K miles and they're generally reliable and don't suffer premature bore wear as did some nikasil coated engines from the 90's.

 

320bhp from a 5lt V8 means is isn't particularly highly stressed. The two main areas of concern are cambelt (longest one fitted to a car) which if it goes means valves and pistons get too friendly and the thrust bearing at the engine end of the torque tube which if not checked regularly or modified can result in it shunting the crankshaft along and destroying the engine.

 

I know looks are a personal thing, but I still think they still look relatively modern and fresh and they sound wonderful!

Let's not forget that when the 911 was first introduced there was also the 4 cylinder 912 variant.

 

The 914 was also a 4 cylinder.

Yes, they'll easily take 200K miles and they're generally reliable and don't suffer premature bore wear as did some nikasil coated engines from the 90's.

 

320bhp from a 5lt V8 means is isn't particularly highly stressed. The two main areas of concern are cambelt (longest one fitted to a car) which if it goes means valves and pistons get too friendly and the thrust bearing at the engine end of the torque tube which if not checked regularly or modified can result in it shunting the crankshaft along and destroying the engine.

 

I know looks are a personal thing, but I still think they still look relatively modern and fresh and they sound wonderful!

Yes I loved the 928, I used to work in Ilkley and a high flyer in offices nearby  had every new exotic before most and always admired his 928, I agree they still sound great and look today .Mike Brewer on one of his shows where they get a forlorn neglected car and do it up to sell featured one and was seriously tempted 

15 928's on Autotrader right now & quite a spread of Asking Prices from £4,500 - £60,000

Diluting the brand I think , like they did with the 924 (Audi engine) what makes Porsche engines special is the sound and sticking a turbo on and reducing cylinders makes it no different to mainstream manufacturers. Probably just a reworked vag engines and the 2.5 out of the RS3 

 

but:

 

Boxster/Cayman 240bhp 2.0-litre flat four turbo 

Boxster S/Cayman S 300bhp 2.5-litre flat four turbo

Boxster GTS/Cayman GTS 370bhp 2.5-litre flat four turbo

Edited 3 August, 201510 yr by andypandypoos

 

but:

 

No matter how you cut it 6 cylinders is better than four and that's what they have now 

And that is what Porsche will continue to sell you into the future,

you flash more cash and the world will be your oyster.

And if Porsche stop because the Governments make them, then someone else will put what ever engine you want in.

 

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/porsche/porsches-new-flat-four-engines-from-16210bhp-to-25360bhp/

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qWoKobxMOls

Lets assume im only considering the 911 shape for a second and im looking for a classic from late 1990's to early mid 2000's Is there a particular model that stands out as the 'one to have'. I have been looking at getting one for a long time. You hear the 996 mentioned quite a bit and the turbo. But I seam to remember there being quite a brakethrough in terms of the handling one year where the car went from trying to kill you at every opportunity to being relatively easy to control on throttle drifts. Does anyone recall which version is the best?

A US video but they cover lots.

 

?  What sort of Max Budget are you looking at?

Do you have someone for Mates Rates on any work required, or can you do it, any Porsche Specialist near you?

 

DOH, sorry

Lost that link, and it was informative.

 

Porscheography.

Lets assume im only considering the 911 shape for a second and im looking for a classic from late 1990's to early mid 2000's Is there a particular model that stands out as the 'one to have'. I have been looking at getting one for a long time. You hear the 996 mentioned quite a bit and the turbo. But I seam to remember there being quite a brakethrough in terms of the handling one year where the car went from trying to kill you at every opportunity to being relatively easy to control on throttle drifts. Does anyone recall which version is the best?

 

I think people with caps, beards and pipes usually start puffing enthusiastically when 993's are talked about (last of the air cooled engines) and I think by the 90's the handling had been tweaked to the point that 911 accidents stopped being the number one cause of investment banker deaths.

 

Here's a good read to wet your appetite and realise that you'll need to have a serious look down the back of your sofa: http://www.ferdinandmagazine.com/porsche-buyers-guides/porsche-911-buyers-guide

I think people with caps, beards and pipes usually start puffing enthusiastically when 993's are talked about (last of the air cooled engines) and I think by the 90's the handling had been tweaked to the point that 911 accidents stopped being the number one cause of investment banker deaths.

 

Here's a good read to wet your appetite and realise that you'll need to have a serious look down the back of your sofa: http://www.ferdinandmagazine.com/porsche-buyers-guides/porsche-911-buyers-guide

 

I read from top to bottom and im more confused now than I was to start with lol.

Diluting the brand I think , like they did with the 924 (Audi engine) what makes Porsche engines special is the sound and sticking a turbo on and reducing cylinders makes it no different to mainstream manufacturers. Probably just a reworked vag engines and the 2.5 out of the RS3 

 

Diluting the brand like the 924, sorry how wide of the mark are you.  The 924 was always going to be a 4 pot Vag lump as it was actually meant to be the new VW Scirocco in the first place, however in the mid 70's thanks to the oil crisis porsche was on its ass in a big way living hand to mouth.  They needed units shifted and the only way they could was a frugal low cost high unit.  So after building it for VW  ( and yes i have seen the early mules including a 4 dr version at the porsche museum) they bought the design back off them to rebrand as their own however the deal on the engine was part of the buy back.  it went on to become there most succesful model back then and kickstarted what we see today a bit like the boxster did back in the late 90's when porsche nearly went under again.  

 

Now it is done for different reasons.  porsche is on fire currently and has been for the last 15 years really.  the Brand is strong, the design is amazing and the technology is next world.  i was lucky enough to spend the other week ina  991 GT3 and was even luckier to have the keys for two nights driving round the country roads of the eiffel, its perfection .

 

I have also seen and heard the new turbo charged boxster in testing, all i can say is you will be disappointed if you think they sound that different.  They are quicker than the outgoing models, they handle better than the outgoing models and i would have one in a heartbeat.

 

You'll still have the specials like the GT4, but Porsche do not get these sort of things wrong.  Sure the block may be borrowed from Vag but pretty much stuff all else will be VW.  

 

Theres not a day goes by that i do not think about cashing in all my toys and buying a 10k 996 Carrera,