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VW Eos leaks like a sieve.

Have you any proof?

 

We have owned 2 EOS's, the wifes '07 2.0 FSiT manual & now my '10 2.0 TSi DSG.

 

The roofs do not leak at all, either in the rain, in a car-wash or under a pressure hose.....

 

It does help if the seals are kept in good order, ( apply Krylox as & when, etc...) but that's all there is to worry about.

 

As for the OP's original point, an EOS will be easy to live with, 'cos it's Golf based, as is the Octavia, it's comfortable & the boot is big enough

for a 10-day holiday with the roof down, especially if you keep the optional wind-break in place & treat the rear seat as luggage space.

 

The picture posted by the OP shows a car fitted with the optional 18" "Chicago" wheels, which is probably the "Sport Chassis" option, about 15mm lower than standard

& a little better cornering.

 

We felt that we missed our old EOS enough to buy one as a 3rd car, just for the sunny day out poodle into the countryside, but I've put more miles on than either of our two Skoda's, 'cos it's

fun to drive & just a nice car to live with.

 

But, it took 6 months to find the car we wanted, with the right toys / options & had to travel to Devon to find it, but whatever we buy next, it's not going to be the car we trade in.......

 

We did try a C70, but it was lacking in boot space with the roof down, + not much fun to drive, too slow & not enough chuckability for us...

We are, of course biased, but do you think we would have spent real cash money on a 2nd EOS if we knew that they leaked in the rain?

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  • Have you any proof?   We have owned 2 EOS's, the wifes '07 2.0 FSiT manual & now my '10 2.0 TSi DSG.   The roofs do not leak at all, either in the rain, in a car-wash or under a pressure hose.

  • Wardy!!!! You jinxed me!   Went to start it this morning and it just turned a few times and died!   Jump started it from the Octavia but it still only turned a couple of times then died.   Got m

  • Not owned any of those, but recently looked at convertibles, and automatic convertibles and liked various SAAB i looked at. But can i suggest, check out a Volvo C70 because there are some great barga

Nice. 

(Easy Start in the glove box must be there for owners of a Classic Mini)

 

Have you any proof?

Yep, VW parts / service manager is a mate of mine and when I asked about one for the wife he gave me very strong words about how many they get in with leaks which are buggers to fix. I'd figure he sees more EOS than you, and although yours might not leak the view of the dealers isn't the same as yours I'm afraid.

does it have to be a diesel ?

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Re the MX5... it's tiny! I tried to sit in Dave's (sharkrider) and the seat just didn't go back far enough and I could actually just look over the windscreen so it would be useless for me!

 

Thanks for the suggestions above but as before I can't afford to run anything with 3.0 and 3.2 litre engines in!

 

I love the Honda S2000 but again... it might only be a 2.0 but the tax and economy are just awful. I've looked it up and it only has a 50 litre tank. The appeal of a 2.0 CR140 DSG EOS or similar is that we can do what we can in the Octavia. Chuck a few bags in, fill up and drive to Germany without having to fill up every 2 mins.

 

With the EOS and it's leaky roof it's probably like the DSG, 1.4 twin charged engine, 1.8 tsi and BXE. They all have reported problems that then become the main focus and that if x number are having that problem then they all have it. It's easy to forget that there are thousands of other similar cars that never have the so called inherent problems.

 

does it have to be a diesel ?

 

It doesn't have to be but they are the only ones that are affordable to run and not drink fuel like it's going out of fashion!

Re the MX5... it's tiny! I tried to sit in Dave's (sharkrider) and the seat just didn't go back far enough and I could actually just look over the windscreen so it would be useless for me!

 

Thanks for the suggestions above but as before I can't afford to run anything with 3.0 and 3.2 litre engines in!

 

I love the Honda S2000 but again... it might only be a 2.0 but the tax and economy are just awful. I've looked it up and it only has a 50 litre tank. The appeal of a 2.0 CR140 DSG EOS or similar is that we can do what we can in the Octavia. Chuck a few bags in, fill up and drive to Germany without having to fill up every 2 mins.

 

With the EOS and it's leaky roof it's probably like the DSG, 1.4 twin charged engine, 1.8 tsi and BXE. They all have reported problems that then become the main focus and that if x number are having that problem then they all have it. It's easy to forget that there are thousands of other similar cars that never have the so called inherent problems.

 

 

It doesn't have to be but they are the only ones that are affordable to run and not drink fuel like it's going out of fashion!

The long-term average on our current EOS is 35 mpg, compared to both Skoda's which average 37-38 mpg. 

Not too surprising, the EOS like most tin-tops is heavier than it looks,.

 

The previous owners, an even older couple living in Torbay, had only managed 24 mpg over the last 73 hours when we bought the car, but it's 

very hilly in that part of Devon!

 

We are quite pleased with all of our TSi / DSG cars, but it's possible that you expect better economy from a car.

 

We also feel that a diesel convertible is just not right, especially with a 4 cylinder engine, but that's just our opinion.

 

DC

moving to the petrol side would allow you a megane or a Focus CC (autos are rare)

moving to the petrol side would allow you a megane or a Focus CC (autos are rare)

IMVHO, neither the Renault nor the Ford are great cars, we found that the EOS was more expensive, but you can see where the money was spent.

 

DC 

is the mx5 you tried a mk1? the mk3(nc) is a good bit bigger.

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is the mx5 you tried a mk1? the mk3(nc) is a good bit bigger.

 

It was a MK1 yes. But the MK3 with an auto is way out of our budget so that's out the question.

I see. I hadn't picked up on the auto bit.

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Yeah I had looked at a couple of them. They are nice and definitely a winner with the other half but the tax and fuel economy are just a little below what I could live with really.

 

I was looking at an Audi A3 Convertible 2.0 TFSI S-Tronic the other day. Economy and tax was pretty decent (better than the equivalent EOS 2.0 TFSI actually).

 

This could be a good compromise.

 

I must admit it does seem to make more sense to have a petrol in a lot of ways. Quieter when you have the roof down and the warm up times are much better. Plus 200 bhp on tap is tempting!

Well as we are downsizing to a one car family and my wife like to have a convertible we have been looking at all of the alternatives.  As I said earlier I have had a couple of Saab sort tops and whilst I still think they are one of the nicer looking convertibles around they are a bot too big for the wife to drive and park at work.

 

We also need to have somewhere for the dog to sit so it must have a back seat of sorts and that rules out Audi TT, Porsche Boxster and the Merc.  I wanted something that has auto that can be used as manual with or without flappy paddles.  I went to have a look at a BMW 1 series in Lincoln and whilst I liked it, could get comfortable in it the wife preferred the Golf cabrio next to it.  They had a choice of a couple a 1.6 and 2.0 diesel.  As luck would have it the bigger engined and better specced car had DSG.  Just a shame the salesman was rubbish and offered a deal that was worse and didn't fulfil his promise of ringing us back with a better deal once he had spoken to his sales manager who was day off!

 

So we called at a second garage in Lincoln that strangely enough also had a pair of Golf cabrios in and one of them was 2.0 diesel DSG.  Deal was better but we left the salesman to come up with more having told him that we were interested and would definitely be buying one by the end of the week be it his or the other garages.  This salesman did ring me back first thing the following morning and offered me a far better deal which I was pleased to accept.

 

So our choice is made.  They also had a number of A3 soft tops in but my wife prefers the look of the Golf (as do I).  I am happy as I like Golfs and am already looking at having a remap done to improve the power.  Only downside I have found so far is the VW forum I have had a loo on isn't a patch on this place so I am afraid you lot are stuck with me for a bit longer yet!

 

Hope you manage to sort something out Phil that you are both happy with and good luck with the hunt.

Well that is better than the motorbike and sidecar that the wife wanted!  Oh ans she wants the dog to wear his doggles!!!!

 

http://doggles.uk.com/

 

I very seldom say it to her but Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well that is better than the motorbike and sidecar that the wife wanted!  Oh ans she wants the dog to wear his doggles!!!!

 

http://doggles.uk.com/

 

I very seldom say it to her but Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Let the mutt travel in style, doggles not needed.

 

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So thanks for that. :no:   For your information the good lady has just seen this and you are is SO much trouble!!!! :devil::D

A golf convertible looks beauty

Yeah I had looked at a couple of them. They are nice and definitely a winner with the other half but the tax and fuel economy are just a little below what I could live with really.

 

I was looking at an Audi A3 Convertible 2.0 TFSI S-Tronic the other day. Economy and tax was pretty decent (better than the equivalent EOS 2.0 TFSI actually).

 

This could be a good compromise.

 

I must admit it does seem to make more sense to have a petrol in a lot of ways. Quieter when you have the roof down and the warm up times are much better. Plus 200 bhp on tap is tempting!

Hi Phil

I think if I was in your position and had gone for the Eos, I may have regretted it in the long run and wish I had gone for something different to the Octavia links.

 

Having said that I love the Audi A4's and drive a 2.0T myself and it is lovely to drive, although not a convertible. 200 bhp is nice. Enough for me.

I also had a 54 plate Saab 9-3, just one year old, and it has to be the most comfortable car I have ever driven. However, I wanted a 150bhp but could not even get one from the dealers so ended up with the 120. It was a bit pants when approaching an island and you try to keep moving in 2nd, put your foot down a bit and.........nothing. Unless the 150 is better or the auto makes this better, I would want petrol if Saab became my choice. Not so nice interiors though.

Having said petrol Saab, I would prefer petrol in either case anyway.

Phil,

 

I've just sent a message to boycarp (brother in law), he has been running a 2L petrol eos for over a year now as their family car.  He is fanatical about keeping it clean & I've never heard him complain about the roof leaking, he also helps to organise and take part in the eee-by gumball rally every year through Europe and commutes from Ulleskelf to Acomb everyday in it, he probably covers 15-20k per year.

 

Matthew

Phil,

 

I exchanged a few messages with Jason (boycarp), he gets around 32mpg on his work commutes & running around, on his euro trips & jaunts around the country he gets low to mid 40's.

 

He hasn't had any issues with the roof leaking (or anywhere else), and gets washed at least once a week, his is an '08plate

 

He has fitted a Bluefin map and pipercross panel filter

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Right... time to revive this subject!

 

It kind of tailed off did our pursuit to find a new car.

 

Been searching more and more and I think we have changed our approach to this.

 

The cars we were looking at came with some major down falls for us.

 

A 2.0 TFSI is just a tad too thirsty, high on tax and insurance for a second car.

 

2.0 TDI is either a PD or CR. Either way they both have a DPF which I don't feel totally comfortable with. Plus another diesel that takes ages to warm up etc is putting me off.

 

The Saab 1.9 TiD it seems is a Vauxhall 1.9 CDTi with some common problems. Alternators made of chocolate, EGR problems and of course in the Saab they are all fitted with a DPF! Then we're back to the same problem of noise (from the engine with the roof down) and taking ages to warm up. Plus again the higher tax and insurance.

 

So I've now quite warmed to the idea of a Mini Convertible I have found. I have heard nothing but good things of the Mini driving experience and heard they are very nice to drive giving great road comfort and also a fun engaging drive. This kind of ticks some boxes for us. Why do we need a big heavy diesel convertible when it's mainly going to be a weekend/holiday car.

 

The model I have seen is a 1.6 (120bhp) with a 6 speed auto box. It has gorgeous heated leather seats, multi function steering wheel, auto lights, auto wipers, auto dim mirror, USB, Bluetooth, 16" alloys, heated front windscreen and parking sensors. Basically ticks all the boxes apart from sat nav but there's an app for that!

 

It's £180 a year tax (same as the Octavia) and the insurance quotes are very affordable. It's combined fuel economy is 42mpg (Octavia being 47mpg).

 

Sure it's not as fast as all the others we've looked at but it's still (on paper) faster than the Octavia and I'm sure it will have no problem with breaking every speed limit on the roads with no problems so power isn't an issue. I imagine it will be quite fun to drive.

 

So... thoughts?

 

Talk me out of it?!? :D

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Sorry this is not meant in anyway as sexist, and comes from someone that likes MINI's, likes Fugly cars, unusual cars, and does not care what others think, 

but in a MINI Convertible you will look like a proper D!ck.   It is really as simple as that, and so as long as you know that sorted and enjoy the MINI.

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Hahaha! I have to admit... that thought did cross my mind!

 

It's not a particularly girly looking one is the one I've seen. It's like a silver/grey colour with brown/maroon coloured seats and a dark brown soft top.

 

I have seen a Cooper S version (1.6 with a turbo) and that looks more manly with it's bigger wheel, more aggressive styling and xenon lights but it's probably just out of budget.

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