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  • 1 month later...

Have a read of posts 2 & 4 here

Well, to update my question above, despite being offered a delivery date of either 3 or 4 March back at the end of January (and agreeing to 3 March), I'm now told that my new Fabia Estate bought through Broadspeed will be delivered 8 March - which it won't as I have commitments at work (moved from, ironically, 3 March). Failing that, it will be 16 March onward.

 

I now understand why you wouldn't recommend them... I've pointed out that with these date changes, I now want to collect - so I'll see what the MD comes back with tomorrow.

 

Very disappointed considering how good my first experience with them was. Let's see if they redeem themselves.

I must say, when I was buying via a broker, I took the view that as I was saving a lot of money, I would need to live with getting the car when it became available. I'd think in general, the best way to get a car on a fixed date is to order prior to plate change and pay full price and make it clear that time was of the essence.

 

When importing wife's previous Polo, I had just bought the Euros in preparation of being contacted in a few weeks, also buying the Euros at a good time(price), phone call came out of the blue from garage in NL so I needed to push the making available my dosh very hard with my "Euro place" - and get air tickets and return ferry tickets sorted out quickly!

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Hopefully this week more concrete news, but we'll be offering UK spec, UK dealer supplied, nationally delivered/collect cars with fuel and mats from March. No funky business tricks.

 

The price, should be as good as any of the folks mentioned here. The process should be nicer too :). The buying of a new car should be easier. Dealers should support the site, us, and *all* our efforts in helping each other out.

 

Those are some of the goals, just got to turn a few more cogs ;)

I have configured a couple of cars on Car Wow. The Skoda is a realistic next car for me and the polo was an optimistic punt really!!

 

1) Polo GTI 5 Door Manual with Pearl Black Paint Sport Performance Pack as an extra - RRP £20,965.00

 

2) Skoda Fabia Monte Carlo 1.2 TSI with Quartz Grey paint, sports suspension & 17" Wheels - RRP £16,930.00

 

Best offer I've received on the polo is £17,398.00

 

Best offer on the Fabia is £16,012.00

 

Now for the extra £1386.00 between the two I am seriously considering the polo. Don't understand why Skoda dealers are reluctant to make any significant reductions against what is quite an expensive Skoda!

I have configured a couple of cars on Car Wow. The Skoda is a realistic next car for me and the polo was an optimistic punt really!!

 

1) Polo GTI 5 Door Manual with Pearl Black Paint Sport Performance Pack as an extra - RRP £20,965.00

 

2) Skoda Fabia Monte Carlo 1.2 TSI with Quartz Grey paint, sports suspension & 17" Wheels - RRP £16,930.00

 

Best offer I've received on the polo is £17,398.00

 

Best offer on the Fabia is £16,012.00

 

Now for the extra £1386.00 between the two I am seriously considering the polo. Don't understand why Skoda dealers are reluctant to make any significant reductions against what is quite an expensive Skoda!

 

I think it's a case of Fabias are still selling okay - whereas VW are panicking with their reduced sales and therefore have more to offer!

Where do you get the idea that Fabia's are still selling OK.?

 

Expect discounts very soon as the new Brand Director gets in his stride and needs to get sales moving of the rather high RRP 

all new Skoda Fabia 12 months on and selling rather low numbers in the UK.

Where do you get the idea that Fabia's are still selling OK.?

 

Expect discounts very soon as the new Brand Director gets in his stride and needs to get sales moving of the rather high RRP 

all new Skoda Fabia 12 months on and selling rather low numbers in the UK.

 

I understand where you're coming from re RRP (but who pays that anyway?) and have no idea what the sales figures are like, but before buying our monte estate I scoured the market (both new and used) for weeks to find a car to match our needs and budget, the overall package/deal that the Fabia and Skoda dealer could offer was imo excellent, for us it ticked more boxes than anything else I could find on the market.

Used were scarce in the UK because delivery last year was slow and not many cars other than Fleet or Demonstrators were registered and then for sale used.

Those Hire cars that were registered in the first quarters will be back into the Used car trade soon and maybe a real bargain for anyone after a cheap nearly new Ex Hire car (management car!) Skoda Fabia.

Where do you get the idea that Fabia's are still selling OK.?

Expect discounts very soon as the new Brand Director gets in his stride and needs to get sales moving of the rather high RRP

all new Skoda Fabia 12 months on and selling rather low numbers in the UK.

D'you have numbers? Would be interested to see.

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I think it's a case of Fabias are still selling okay - whereas VW are panicking with their reduced sales and therefore have more to offer!

I think there will be lots of deals in a few weeks, get the new plate rush out of the way, then we will see more gimmicks in second half of month, have tried £500 free fuel, now trying £500 test drive at Seat. Might even bring back the loyalty bonus (I didn't use it as it was limited to cars delivered by a certain date and spec I wanted required a factory order)

Further update to my Fabia from Broadspeed...

After all the to-ing and fro-ing, it was delivered yesterday. So despite being told I might have to wait until 16 March, a slot was found for delivery on 1 March which was instantly accepted. Quick juggle around of days off, and I was home to meet the delivery driver at 10am who had come from Mansfield with it. The registration plates suggest it has come from Rainworth Skoda.

Despite this last week being somewhat fraught, I'd still buy with Broadspeed again. The initial communication was excellent, it then went quiet until they needed payment, with the invoice being sent promptly. I should say that I paid in full for the car back at the beginning of February as I wasn't having it supplied by the dealer; rather Broadspeed were supplying directly - this is how cash purchases seem to be structured. As a result, because Rainworth had it delivered to them halfway through January but I didn't want it until March, I think Broadspeed had to pay them for it a lot earlier.

The final week had plenty of telephone conversations and emails to confirm what was happening and when, and I suppose it is one of the two busiest weeks of the year which may have increased the confusion and frustration felt at times. Nevertheless I have our new car delivered earlier than I expected and at an excellent price.

Worth noting that in spite of my occasionally curt sounding emails to him, Simon, the MD, is exceptionally friendly and always comes back to you if you ring or e-mail.

I also wonder if, because the Polo is an older technology, it is cheaper? The current Polo has been on the market since 2009 (OK I accept a facelift recently, but the underpinnings are last generation even if the engines are the current generation).  The current Polo must be coming to the end of its current version - a "new Polo" must be due soon? It will be interesting then to compare Polo/Fabia/Ibiza prices. In my experience new models rarely get decent discounts initially.

 

We too looked at the Polo when choosing our new car. For our money, the Fabia was better equipped and offered an overall better package for the price we could negotiate (about 13% discount, cash). We could not get a Polo with similar spec within about £2k of the Fabia. £2k is still a lot of money particularly when this is a second car runabout and actually they are (outwardly) really very similar cars.

Further update to my Fabia from Broadspeed...

After all the to-ing and fro-ing, it was delivered yesterday. So despite being told I might have to wait until 16 March, a slot was found for delivery on 1 March which was instantly accepted. Quick juggle around of days off, and I was home to meet the delivery driver at 10am who had come from Mansfield with it. The registration plates suggest it has come from Rainworth Skoda.

Despite this last week being somewhat fraught, I'd still buy with Broadspeed again. The initial communication was excellent, it then went quiet until they needed payment, with the invoice being sent promptly. I should say that I paid in full for the car back at the beginning of February as I wasn't having it supplied by the dealer; rather Broadspeed were supplying directly - this is how cash purchases seem to be structured. As a result, because Rainworth had it delivered to them halfway through January but I didn't want it until March, I think Broadspeed had to pay them for it a lot earlier.

The final week had plenty of telephone conversations and emails to confirm what was happening and when, and I suppose it is one of the two busiest weeks of the year which may have increased the confusion and frustration felt at times. Nevertheless I have our new car delivered earlier than I expected and at an excellent price.

Worth noting that in spite of my occasionally curt sounding emails to him, Simon, the MD, is exceptionally friendly and always comes back to you if you ring or e-mail.

 

Nice that it all ended positively and good that you provided good feedback to us.

I also wonder if, because the Polo is an older technology, it is cheaper? The current Polo has been on the market since 2009 (OK I accept a facelift recently, but the underpinnings are last generation even if the engines are the current generation).  The current Polo must be coming to the end of its current version - a "new Polo" must be due soon? It will be interesting then to compare Polo/Fabia/Ibiza prices. In my experience new models rarely get decent discounts initially.

 

We too looked at the Polo when choosing our new car. For our money, the Fabia was better equipped and offered an overall better package for the price we could negotiate (about 13% discount, cash). We could not get a Polo with similar spec within about £2k of the Fabia. £2k is still a lot of money particularly when this is a second car runabout and actually they are (outwardly) really very similar cars.

 

Not really, while the latest Polo 6R 6C is based on a different platform to the "almost looks the same" 2009 6R, most of what matters has been replaced, like 1.2TSI engines etc and of course the infotainment stuff and lights and lots more, I can't think why VW did not make significant cosmetic changes to the current Polo to distance it more from the early version, this was one "face lift" that maybe should have been delivered as a model change - though that would have made the earlier model life being a lot shorter than normally budgeted for.  New Polo and all the others does not come until 2018 I think.

The Face Lift Polo is on the same platform (the underpinnings) as the Mk2 Fabia, Seat Ibiza & Audi A1.

& the All New 2015 Fabia is only different in some component placements which is why there was no new Type Approval required.

Even the S1 has the same platform with changes made for the AWD system.

Well I stand corrected. Thanks.

  • 3 weeks later...

Further update to my Fabia from Broadspeed...

After all the to-ing and fro-ing, it was delivered yesterday. So despite being told I might have to wait until 16 March, a slot was found for delivery on 1 March which was instantly accepted. Quick juggle around of days off, and I was home to meet the delivery driver at 10am who had come from Mansfield with it. The registration plates suggest it has come from Rainworth Skoda.

Despite this last week being somewhat fraught, I'd still buy with Broadspeed again. The initial communication was excellent, it then went quiet until they needed payment, with the invoice being sent promptly. I should say that I paid in full for the car back at the beginning of February as I wasn't having it supplied by the dealer; rather Broadspeed were supplying directly - this is how cash purchases seem to be structured. As a result, because Rainworth had it delivered to them halfway through January but I didn't want it until March, I think Broadspeed had to pay them for it a lot earlier.

The final week had plenty of telephone conversations and emails to confirm what was happening and when, and I suppose it is one of the two busiest weeks of the year which may have increased the confusion and frustration felt at times. Nevertheless I have our new car delivered earlier than I expected and at an excellent price.

Worth noting that in spite of my occasionally curt sounding emails to him, Simon, the MD, is exceptionally friendly and always comes back to you if you ring or e-mail.

 

Final part of this story - Registration Documentation was received today, and despite all the horror and scare stories that dealers spout (the Coventry Skoda dealer tried this tactic at the outset) that the car will be a pre-reg, I can confirm as per the Broadspeed Website that I am indeed the first registered keeper.

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