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I am beginning to think that I have been sold a Friday car. It is still a very nice car but appears to be missing some standard items and one key option that I have paid for.

  1. I don't have smart light assist even though it is charged on my invoice as an extra so that is an obvious error. Dealer says they didnt know either but Skoda have told them it was built before the £100 option was available so it has light assist and not smart light assist. However it does have the lane assist/blind spot package????? That doesn't add up to me. Does anyone have an L&K that didnt spec the smart light assist. If so have you got the blind spot etc pack along with the standard AFS and running lights.
  2. Given that the option is only £100 on the L&K (and £950 for the others) I am assuming the difference in kit on an L&K must be minimal. Anyone know what would be different. Is it hardware or just some elec/software jiggery pokey? I am wondering how technically difficult it would be to have it retro fitted.
  3. Both seats are electric but the passenger has no memory. The brochure suggests both should have memory. Does your passenger seat have memory or is it just the driver seat?
  4. How do I tell whether I have the colour maxi dot? Mine seems to be b&w.
  5. What colour are your speedo etc dials? b&w?

This info will help me to decide what to do about this. Possibly return the car as not to spec or maybe just negotiate a credit so I would be most grateful for any feedback/suggestions.

 

Pete

 

Easiest way to check Smart Light Assist - can you see the 7 eyelash style LED Strips in your DRLs?

Retrofitting it might not be so simple as there is clearly a hardware element.

Having Colour Maxidot will be obvious - there different menus 'scroll' in a more snazzy fashion.

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Thanks Dilz. Yes that is how I first suspected something wasn't right. I dont have the eyelashes. Then I couldn't find it in the 'light' menu on Columbus so I called the dealer who confirmed, after they checked with Skoda, that it was built with light assist. That is an option on the SE and SEL but not the L&K according to the brochures. I paid the £100 extra for smart light, hence my current disappointment.

 

Thanks for the tip on maxi dot. The menus do scroll over as I roll the thumbscrew so I guess that is OK?

 

Pete

All maxidots scroll. The easiest way to tell if you have the colour maxidot is just open the door. Does it have a red open door?

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L&K has an ivory background to the numbers (regardless of body/leather colour)...

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In addition L&K should be plastered everywhere  - front wings, door sills, seats, nearside of the piano black dashboard trim (have you got the L&K black trim?), gear knob, infotainment (when it switches on), maxidot when you switch on the ignition.

Front passenger seat memory is not an option, only the driver seat. Poor description in the brochure, just like it implies that the boot can be closed from the console switch, which it cannot.

Dealer says they didnt know either but Skoda have told them it was built before the £100 option was available so it has light assist and not smart light assist.

 

Sorry, that sounds like b$$$$cks and more likely to be coming from your dealer than Škoda. It was shown as an £100 option in the very first online brochure which came out in May/June.

Whilst the very first brochure was teeming with errors, that was not one of them.

As it was built to order I'd be inclined to ask the dealer to see the SLI order printout for your car.

This lists the specification requested by the dealer and any optional extras (also includes things like when the vehicle is required, where it is to be delivered, etc).

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Thanks Billy, that has helped a lot.  Looks like it is just the smart light assist that is missing but I can now check in more detail in the morning.

 

Yes I agree about the bull but I am still puzzled as to how the light assist is there unless that is standard on the L&K unless you spec smart assist.

 

Any idea on what the material difference is between light and smart? I mean components etc rather than how they work.

 

The lack of LED lighting is obvious but are the headlamp units completely different sets? That would make retro fit unviable I would guess. It's not a deal breaker as such because the bi-x AFS works well enough but .........

Thanks Billy, that has helped a lot.  Looks like it is just the smart light assist that is missing but I can now check in more detail in the morning.

 

Yes I agree about the bull but I am still puzzled as to how the light assist is there unless that is standard on the L&K unless you spec smart assist.

 

Any idea on what the material difference is between light and smart? I mean components etc rather than how they work.

 

The lack of LED lighting is obvious but are the headlamp units completely different sets? That would make retro fit unviable I would guess. It's not a deal breaker as such because the bi-x AFS works well enough but .........

AFAIK Light Assist isn't standard on the L&K, nor can it be specified. Light Assist simply switches main beam to dipped, whereas Smart Light Assist moves the lamp to deflect main beam using motors in the headlamp.

I don't know if these motors are in addition to or supplemental to the motors used for auto-levelling and AFS, but my best guess is it uses the existing AFS motors.

You already have the other component needed, the forward facing camera, so hopefully it only needs coding.

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Thanks again. Mirrors my thoughts about the components. Have checked this morning and everything else is to spec.

 

I found a quality check certificate in the papers which shows the vehicle had an extended QC check at the factory on 29th Sept before shipping. So that and your comment that light assist has never been an option blows away the first response from Skoda tech.

 

It will be an interesting chat with the dealer who I think genuinely thought it had smart assist until I told them otherwise. These things happen and I am sure we can find a mutual solution in the end. Here's hoping it is a simple coding issue!

 

Pete

Take a look at the sticker in the boot with the option codes on, Smart Light Assist has the code: PNG

 

Smart light assist with Lane £100 assist and BSD (PNG) 

 

The extra 7 LED strips can be seen below, these are not present in cars without Smart Light Assist... they have 7 black plastic mouldings, so the headlights are a different item.

 

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I would guess the dealer has missed them from the order and is covering their arse.

I would guess the dealer has missed them from the order and is covering their arse.

That's my guess too, which is why I suggest Sagalout asks to see the dealer's SLI order form.

If they have missed it off the order it won't fix the problem but will give him a better position (both morally and legally) to argue that it should be fixed by the dealer, as that is what he entered into a contract to be provided and has paid for.

As for Light Assist on the L&K, I was looking at the brochure which shows it as not being an option for the L&K, but having just looked at the online configurator it does give it as a £250 option, so I may have to recant on that.

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Hey guys really appreciate the help. I have attached a photo of my headlamp which looks the same as your photo but I cant tell whether this is a simple moulding or an LED strip. It is deffo not black plastic and doesnt light up on DRL. However cant see the code on the stickers. Also I have the lane assist and BSD ???????????

 

Just to clarify I didn't spec the car so not an ordering mistake by the dealer. As I said I think they are as puzzled as me but passed on the response from Skoda. So yes it is not as described but if they have changed the spec (a.l.a. the wheels issues for SE business) then I would have to accept it. Apart from anything else the option I have is now shown at £250 and I have only paid £100

 

Pete

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Whoops sorry. Didnt notice png files. here are the jpg.

They are the ‘std’ (non SLA lights)

 

E0A = No special edition

1D0 = Without trailer hitch
7UG = Navigation system - High
I8H = High radio (Gen2)
1KU = Disc brakes, rear
1AT = Electronic stabilization program (ESP)
7MM = Emission standard EU6 plus
1N3 = Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic)
G04 = Front shock absorption
H1U = Tires 235/45 R18 94W
4UP = Drivers and front passenger air bag with knee air bag and front passenger air bag deactivation
L07 = Suspension range 07 installation control only, no requirement forecast
B09 = Type approval Great Britain and NorthernIreland
3QT = 3-point seat belts with tensioner and height adjustment, front
4X3 = Side air bag front with curtain air bag
J2D = Battery 380 A (68 Ah)
QI6 = Service indicator 30,000 km or 2 year ( variable )
8GV = Alternator 180 A
 

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Whoops sorry. Didnt notice png files. here are the jpg.

PNG works, just not as good (smaller images).

 

 

They are the ‘std’ (non SLA lights)

 

 

How can you tell? The strips look clear to me.

They aren't DRL, thats only the outer LEDs, so Pete (Sagalout) has to turn on side or dipped lights to see if they illuminate.

If they do, then I'd assume he most likely has Smart Light Assist as they only come as part of the SLA package..

 

Smart Light Assist doesn't appear in the maxidot Assists menu.

In infotainment CAR menu, options (bottom right), Light - the first item on my car is "Dynamic Light Assist" with a tick box.

If it's there then ensure it's ticked. Light switch must be in Auto and engine running.

Flick the lighting stalk forward once and a small white main beam icon with the letter A in it should display at the bottom of the maxidot.

If it's daylight or street lighting present, the actual main beam should not illuminate.

How can you tell? The strips look clear to me.

 

They look just like the ones on the demo car i drove which didn’t have SLA... it can be difficult to tell though from a photo,

by far the easiest way it to turn the lights on, but obviously this would need to be enabled in the infotainment (not sure why they would not be enabled though?)

They look just like the ones on the demo car i drove which didn’t have SLA... it can be difficult to tell though from a photo,

by far the easiest way it to turn the lights on, but obviously this would need to be enabled in the infotainment (not sure why they would not be enabled though?)

I had to use the screen zoom function, which led me to think they were clear strips (of course I could be wrong).

When I collected my car the four Assists listed in maxidot were enabled, but for whatever reason the Dynamic Light Assist wasn't, nor were many other options, like the ambient lighting. I spent a good while going through all the menu screens, learning what did what and setting options to my preference.

Still rooting for a thumbs-up from Pete that he has actually got SLA.

Just reread your post. Not sure if I understood you right. The strips don't need to be enabled, only the SLA.

Mine should also have code PNC on the label but doesn't. It was ordered as Light Assist with High Beam Control according to the form, with the same code. What it does do is dip the main beam when oncoming traffic appears (or same direction traffic is detected ahead), or keep it off in street lit areas.

What it doesn't do is steer a low beam slot over oncoming traffic to keep them from being blinded.

I don't have PNG either but have the right type of lights with the clear strips, though in daylight it is hard to see whether they do illuminate. I wonder what has actually been fitted?

The Car Menu item simply says Light Assist under Lights. No 'Dynamic'.

I paid the £250 too!

Edited by FelisBengalensis

I don't have PNG either but have the right type of lights with the clear strips, though in daylight it is hard to see whether they do illuminate.

You'd know - they're very bright when lit.

Hmmm. So Dealer error or factory 'decision' then? I was expecting the better version so if it's missing I need to understand why. Could just be a simple build date issue, but could be terminology, or a mistake.

put my lights on parking mode and had a look the eyelashes are definitely lit (easier to see without low beam ) along with the DRL

 

interestingly i dont have PNG on my vehicle data sheet sticker either

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Hello again . Sorry but I have been out all afternoon. Couple of points to add to the comments so far.

 

I dont have the dynamic light menu option showing.That is what started me off on this trail. It looks as though Felis has the same build option as me. I will try the park light check as I thought they were DRL.

 

Either way as I said earlier, I didn't spec this vehicle. My original order was for an SEL without smart assist so I am not that bothered if it isn't there. rAfter all I have an option that now costs £250 and only paid £100.

 

More a case of getting to the bottom of why the dealer thought it was. And that begins to look like spec changes re the lights. However, if it is a simple coding resolution then I would be daft not to go for it.

 

Thanks again for all the interest and advice.

 

Pete

From VWs description, it uses the shutter assembly and that may mean a different light unit as the standard one is a two position shutter, not a variable one.

I will also be having a chat with the dealer about what we both thought the option fitted actually was compared to what we thought it was. My guess is that the lack of the word 'dynamic' may be the significant difference between ordering today and back in August.....and not being overcharged :-)

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It is intriguing. The park light check confirmed no eyelash LED lights.

 

Looking at the brochure they mention '3 types of headlights, the higher end options....'

 

Looking at the latest pictures on the picture thread of an SE business ( post #159 ) you can clearly see the lack of brilliants ridges in front of the lamps.

Type 1?

 

We probably have type 2 which has the brilliants but no illumination.

 

That leaves type 3 which are the fully lit and motorised assemblies for smart or dynamic lighting.

 

OR type 2 and 3 are similar but the electronics etc are not enabled. Now that would be a great result wouldn't it.

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