I have a 2001 PD100 combi with a 2 stage tuning box which I'm more than happy with ... when funds allow and the roads dry up again I'll add a Jetex air filter.

I am truly tired of having wheel spin in this current cr*ppy weather even with the tuning box on the low setting. Pulling out of junctions is becoming hairy, I can't put the power onto the road cos of excess wheelspin so ... I removed the tuning box today, and what a difference it made.

Junctions etc are much safer and I'm actually travelling quicker cos I now have grip, the tuning box appears to have been making too much grunt for the front wheels and ECU to cope with.

Is this a known characteristic of tuning boxes?

Do you VRS owners also have problems with grip and traction control in this weather?

I think it's a common problem on the VW PD engines as they are very torquey especially if tuned. I gather that for pulling out at junctions, ASR is useless as it cuts the power whereas ESP keeps up the power for a controlled take off. Having said that I have ESP and still managed a serious wheel spin the other day. It was like I accelerated so hard that the ESP took a couple of seconds to bring it under control but I never really lost momentum.

No problems at all .... the vRS gets wheel spin easily but its a case of adapting - with practice , feeding the power in isn't a problem and if the cars handling is balanced then cornering , at a reasonable speed is fine

But practice off road or on a skidpan where thers nothing to hit:)

Give me a nice big slippery ( private) car park and i'll play for hours... and its the only way to learn car control:)

Never found this with any of my tuning boxes. Trying easing off the right foot a bit

Chris

I personally find that once you get to know the characteristics of your car then poor driving technique is the only thing that enters you into fits of wheelspin.

if you must gun it in the wet to the point of 'burnout' to get out a junction then you should maybe wait for a bigger space, I have had my vrs mapped for about 1.5 yrs now and i can honestly say it only really wheelspins when im giving it a bit shoe, and i am expecting that, but brisk point to point driving i never have a problem

Whilst I was known in mcc smart car circles for driving with divers boots on, the application of too much welly is not the case here ... I'm talking about 1500-2000rpm in 1st and 2nd.

I am surrounded by fast major roads where I live, simply waiting for a bigger gap is not an option and pulling off in 2nd has the same effect.

Without the tuning box the power delivery is far more progressive, I think that the tuning box delivery is just too severe for the traction control to cope with.

Roll on the spring and dry roads ...

To be honest i don't have a remap but i still find i can get wheelspin in second and third gears! Obviously it's stupid to do so but it has happened a few times when trying to overtake from roundabouts! With a little practice it's easy to control this by just feeding in the power.

jabba'd PD 130 here.......exact output under negotiation.....

wet/icy roads are "interesting".

yes, i can lose traction/grip in 1st, 2nd and 3rd if i "press on", but, i find that changing from 1st into 2nd as soon as possible is ok, and as others have said - be progressive. Putting foor through the front firewall costs fuel, clutch and rubber........

Its only a problem, in my experience, if I try to floor it. Quite simply, I have to give it only enough throttle to maintain grip + make good progress. Once those wheels start spinning, you stop moving, and situations can become quite dangerous. :eek:

This weather does need serious driver adaption to the conditions.

It's down to intelligent driving and control - something which some members are lacking.

Its only a problem' date=' in my experience, if I try to floor it. Quite simply, I have to give it only enough throttle to maintain grip + make good progress. Once those wheels start spinning, you stop moving, and situations can become quite dangerous. :eek:

This weather does need serious driver adaption to the conditions.[/quote']

Me on the other hand I floor it and my clutch cries! Unlike the lucky begger above who has a nice upgraded clutch I have to becareful when I boot it! Me jealous never

But really in this weather peeps should take more care we have already had a few members that have had silly moments! As a driver instuctor has told my Mrsus if you cant walk it dont drive it.

It's down to intelligent driving and control - something which some members are lacking.

I agree - don't floor it everywhere and you'll find you trave much quicker.

It is often NECESSARY to pull off sharpish from side roads.

Simply pulling out and progressively feeding in the power will result in being back-scuttled by a 44 tonne truck where I live!!!

As a motorist/motorcyclist of some 25yrs I am aware that the throttle operates in both directions ... my problem with my PD100 happens below 2000rpm.

I'm off to buy some Conti winter tyres ...

It is often NECESSARY to pull off sharpish from side roads.

Simply pulling out and progressively feeding in the power will result in being back-scuttled by a 44 tonne truck where I live!!!

In this weather, pulling off sharpish is the last thing I'd be doing! I'd wait for a bigger gap

Chris

In this weather' date=' pulling off sharpish is the last thing I'd be doing! I'd wait for a bigger gap

Chris[/quote']

Chris, you'd never get to work ... and the rest of the village queuing up behind you would have a lynching.

It's a nice village, and you'd be suprised at just how useful 6 fingers and 6 toes are :eek:

Chris' date=' you'd never get to work ... and the rest of the village queuing up behind you would have a lynching.

It's a nice village, and you'd be suprised at just how useful 6 fingers and 6 toes are :eek:[/quote']

I'd rather be safe and have ****ed off others than be dead and keep everyone else happy.

No problem for me, I drive nice and gently and have very little power anyway. Feed it in rather than just dumping it, learn to drive around the car and its systems and you'll be fine. It's all about control......

All you budding BSM driving instructors will no doubt be pleased to learn that my problem has been solved.

A set of new Conti winter tyres has completely resolved the problem with NO CHANGE in my driving style required, wheelspin is now only there if I REALLY floor it. The tyres that came off had 6mm of meat still left on them so it was obviously a tyre compound problem.

I still think that Skoda traction control is cr*p.

All you budding BSM driving instructors will no doubt be pleased to learn that my problem has been solved.

A set of new Conti winter tyres has completely resolved the problem with NO CHANGE in my driving style required' date=' wheelspin is now only there if I REALLY floor it. The tyres that came off had 6mm of meat still left on them so it was obviously a tyre compound problem.

I still think that Skoda traction control is cr*p.[/quote']

Or you cant control your heavy feet

Did you go for the V rated ones? I had them, jolly nicve they were too Oh and I'm not a budding BSM instructor, I just drive like a granny at all times besides which, my car wouldn't have the ability to wheelspin anyway :(