Hi,

This is my first post here. I've owned a 2015 1.2 DSG Yeti for about a year now and there's something that's always annoyed the hell out of me.

When I'm doing around 50 - 60kmh (roughly 40-50mph) the car shudders under light acceleration. So basically, if I'm just trying to maintain my current speed, the car will shudder/vibrate all the time. This is when I'm in 6th and 7th gear and a bit in 5th too. It means I have to manually shift down to stop the vibration, which is a pain and not why I paid extra to get an auto.

What I want to know is, if you have a 1.2 dsg, does yours do the same? It makes me want to sell it. I took it to the dealer early on  and they said it was normal for the Yeti, which I find to be pretty pathetic if true. I've never had this in any other car.

So basically, is it normal? I like a lot of things about the car, but I can't get past this. I'm due for my warranty service soon and I don't know whether to take it to and independent mechanic beforehand. If it is normal though, I don't want to waste my money on that.

Thanks in advance.

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It's under warranty in any case so I'm not surprised with the dealer's response

It MAYBE the dual mass flywheel (DMF) and that would be exy but unlikely at that age

Either way just take it as an interesting 'fault' and make sure you have formalised the fault/complaint with them on service documents.

Others will respond with their experience and that will confirm if it's common of course.

At what speed in 5th, 6th & 7th gear do you experience the shudder/vibration? The DSG gearboxes do tend to select the highest possible gear (to enable VAG to claim the best possible mpg in the official tests).

On a light throttle the 6-speed DSG in my 2012 Octavia CR vRS will be in 5th gear at 32mph and 6th gear at 38mph. It will let the engine revs drop to 1200 and still hold the gear. This makes the engine sound as if it is labouring and is lower revs than I would ever use with a manual gearbox. Usually I just put up with it by sometimes I either use the paddles to change down a gear or select Manual.

Thanks for the replies. The situation with the Octavia sounds pretty much like what I'm experiencing. It might not be quite as much of  a pain with paddles, but when you have to shift over and down all the time it's a real pain and a big dissapointment. If this is a common thing for dsgs in general, it'll unfortunately be my last one. This should really be fixed. The gearbox is not working properly if it labors the engine. And isn't laboring the engine bad for it in general?

As most of my driving is done on suburban streets at the speeds I mentioned, I've basically been sold an overpriced manual.

Is it fine to keep shifting from auto to manual and back? I feel like I've been cheated.

A remap is something that would fix this, am I right?

As for speeds:

7th at 60kmh

6th at 50kmh

Once I hit 70kmh it's okay, but on suburban streets it's very unpleasent and a chore to drive.

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I doubt if more power would resolve the 'labouring' issue......for back streets maybe less would be better.........(?)

A performance mode would be better, as it wouldn't upshift so quickly I'm thinking.

Edited 11 February, 201610 yr by Ryeman

I was under the impression that a remap could possibly make it change up later. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing. It does have a sports mode, but that takes it to the other extreme. It practically redlines before every shift.

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I was under the impression that a remap could possibly make it change up later. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing. It does have a sports mode, but that takes it to the other extreme. It practically redlines before every shift.

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Is that a 'sports' mode or manual 'hold'?.

Sports. I am of course exaggerating about it red lining before every shift, but it certainly does push it too far in the other direction to be a real option.

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Sports. I am of course exaggerating about it red lining before every shift, but it certainly does push it too far in the other direction to be a real option.

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Yep, drivability comes second to getting a lower CO2 figure from a test cell.

Hi,

So basically, is it normal?

No!

In fact my 2015 1.2 DSG is much smoother than my 2012 DSG was. Also I feel that they have improved the "change" software because it DOES'NT try to get to as high a gear as soon as possible but more often appears to select the gear I would be in if it were manual, ignoring CO2 impact.

I would mention it once more at the service, ask them to reset the gearbox software, and see if there is any improvement.

Incidentally, I find it strange on this forum, how often a poster asks about a problem with, say, a petrol 7 speed DSG Yeti get replies referring to diesel 6 speed DSG Octavias ! Or people immediately talk about remapping or using Sport mode and the thread quickly ends up completely "off thread" !

Incidentally, I find it strange on this forum, how often a poster asks about a problem with, say, a petrol 7 speed DSG Yeti get replies referring to diesel 6 speed DSG Octavias ! Or people immediately talk about remapping or using Sport mode and the thread quickly ends up completely "off thread" !

I am afraid to say it's normal with forums. Somewhere along the way it will reset itself.

 

Ref the post, it took me 2 visits, one *.avi file with the dealer having the car for 5 days before they would agree there was a problem with my clutch. AND they are the eggspurts. OOOOpps sorry mine is not a 7 speed DSG.

Edited 11 February, 201610 yr by DonjSZ5

Hi Shangsean,

I'd have replied earlier,  but unlike others who have replied,  I tend to sleep at night!

No,  your problem is NOT normal for a 1.2 7-speed DSG... at least, mine doesn't do it.  This is the smoothest "automatic" I've ever driven,  and it always seems to be in an appropriate gear, with gear changes that are only noticeable by the movement of the rev counter.

If you have this problem at the point where you are just maintaining speed,  it seems to me you may have some play somewhere in the drive train which only becomes apparent at that point where it takes up the drive.  Its puzzling because what makes this transmission so smooth is that there are two clutches,  one of which is always engaged and the other disengaged...so at no point should the drive be completely disconnected except when the box is in "N" or "P".    Do you get a "clonk" when transitioning from acceleration to overrun?  That might suggest a driveshaft/constant velocity joint/differential problem.

Certainly you shouldn't be experiencing this,  and the dealer's comment that its normal is a blatant lie.

Thanks a lot for the very helpful replies. I really want to love this car, but this is what is stopping me from doing so. I think I'm going to have to get an independent mechanic to at least have a bit of a look before I take it in for its official service. I get the odd rough gear change hat and there, but not really what I'd consider a "clonk". I'll ask about the software too.

It's good to know that the problem is not just normal behavior for the Yeti. Whether or not I'll actually get rid of the problem is another matter.

I read so many gold reviews of the Yeti, both pro and owner and was surprised this hadn't come up much if at all.

Thanks again.

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Thanks a lot for the very helpful replies. I really want to love this car, but this is what is stopping me from doing so. I think I'm going to have to get an independent mechanic to at least have a bit of a look before I take it in for its official service. I get the odd rough gear change hat and there, but not really what I'd consider a "clonk". I'll ask about the software too.

It's good to know that the problem is not just normal behavior for the Yeti. Whether or not I'll actually get rid of the problem is another matter.

I read so many gold reviews of the Yeti, both pro and owner and was surprised this hadn't come up much if at all.

Thanks again.

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I would steer clear of a 3rd party at this point in time...if the dealer gets wind then yer warranty is null and void.

G'day  shangsean

 

Our current 1.2 petrol DSG is approaching 5 yrs old, and we've liked it so much we've just ordered another.

 

Our car does NOT do what you describe.

 

I am used to auto operation on previous cars and I'd say ours performs as expected, with one exception.

 

Occasionally, on setting off, there's a judder. I might be imagining it, but it seems to occur more often on setting off into an uphill turn.

 

If it's behaving like that, I use normal manual mode to start then pull back to auto. 

 

It's not frequent, and not enough to influence us. As I say, we've just ordered another.

 

Hope you get it sorted.

 

BR

 

Mike

Hi Shangsean. As Donjsz5 says, at this stage with the car still under warranty you don't want to be letting 3rd parties start trying to fix it. Any chance of taking it to a different dealer for a second opinion? - I guess they are likely to be spread pretty thin on the ground but might still be worth a bit of a drive.

 

Or you could be cheeky with your dealer. If they have said "it is normal for the Yeti" drop in and tell them you like to go out in a couple of theirs with the same or similar engine/gearbox that are sitting on the forecourt so that you can satisfy yourself that really is the case. They should be only too happy to show you that you've been given a genuine explanation. It will only cost you a bit of time and if the dealer's cars drive like yours when you drive them then maybe it has to be your driving style but if they don't .... well, see what explanation the dealer then comes up with but at least you have some useful evidence if you have to take things further. Good luck.

Mine doesn't do this. As others have said, it's very smooth at all speeds. Could be the flywheel or maybe a driveshaft. Defo not right though.

Try again with your dealer or otherwise go to another Skoda dealer like others have said. Not all dealers are equal...

Service done by the book by a licenced mechanic other than the authorised one is still covered under Australian law.

Outside warranty, forget any goodwill and with the shear complexity it's a risky practice IMO.

Shangsean - you should call Skoda Customer Services directly and explain the problem and the lack of attention you are getting from your dealer, say how disappointed you are with Skoda. In my experience that usually does the trick!

My dsg doesn't labour or judder. Can't fault it. It sounds like something is wrong.

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Thanks again. I wasn't going to let an independent mechanic actually fix the car at this stage. I just wanted them to drive it a bit and give me their opinion just so I had some back up. Though seeing how many people have said their's doesn't do it, it's probably all the info i need to fight them harder to do something.

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Print off the forum contributions that say it's NOT their experience at all and anything BUT "normal".

Print off the forum contributions that say it's NOT their experience at all and anything BUT "normal".

 

 

I can't, for the life of me, imagine that printing off a list of observations from contributors to an online car forum will influence the combined might of a manufacturer or main dealer. I've never been aware that waving a print-off under the nose of maunfacturer's Customer Service representatives or main dealer Service Department employees has influenced the outcome of a dispute.

 

And, yes, I HAVE brought the opinions of forum members to the aforesaid representative's attention...and little good has it done me.

 

For the actual, factual information of the OP, I DO, MYSELF, ACTUALLY OWN the model in question...that is to say I speak from personal experience with ownership of the car in question for coming up to five years.  I can say that I have not experienced the issue spoken of.  The only "judder" was associated with the clutch pack and was experienced when moving off from rest or at very low speed and that was rectified under warranty by an authorised main dealer...obviously enough.

 

I accept that the OP wishes to get a feel for the problem - and I think he has achieved that - and thus informed will obviously take his problem to the main dealer.  No re-maps, no independent mechanics.

 

My experience in driving the 7 speed DSG is that it's a pleasure to drive and changes gear smoothly, efficiently and very quickly and there is no juddering - either when moving off from rest or whilst at speed.

^^^^ err exactly my point...it's NOT normal

If it was they would be asked to explain why the responses were ABnormal and happily so!

So the chugging/vibration at low speed, such as driving around a carpark, moving the car into the garage is also not normal? I certainly have this.

The lag when taking off from a standing start or very low speed is normal though, yes?

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