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Mine's bust again! Went doo-lally trying understand this month's updates, running an svchost.exe task at 100% of a CPU for hours. Anti-virus update got caught behind it, then the system hung after I tried rebooting out of the mess.

 

I've now lost count of the times windows update has broken, or broken my win7 installations trying to start up after updates. Currently sorting out what's what after having restored from backup.

 

Win10 I didn't like and broke on me. Win7 used to be good but is now decidedly badly supported! I despair, I'm not religious but I'm praying fervently that broken PC chassis fall on Microsoft from a great height with gravitas! :)

 

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Ive not had any problems with 7... only time i had an issue involved dropping it on the power lead.. luckily it was still under the extended warranty. But it took a few days to sort out all their post rebuild bloatware and crap.

The only issue I have is when Windows update installs KB2670838 which on mine and a few others it seems removes the aero effect. That means not installing IE10 or IE11 as they both install this update by default and removing it removes the new version of IE. But seeing as I don't use IE is no big deal.

Looks to be an issue with certain Nvidia graphics cards but Microsoft deemed it not important enough to try and resolve it!!!!

Edited by WaveyDavey

TBH I found Win7 very stable I can't recall it ever falling over.

 

Win10 has crashed once on me I think so far.

 

Are you running an odd configuration? Or do you have a teenage son?

 

Teenage boys are probably the main cause of computer breakdowns.

I updated my sisters old PC to Win7 yesterday - it killed it.

 

It finished installing and announced everything was good, then the cpu went "pop".

 

TBF, when I removed the case, the cpu fan was clogged with dust, and the heatsink compound had badly dried out, but........

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I may have been a little hasty with some actions....

 

Yes, there's an issue with "checking for updates" at the moment that can push one CPU to 100% for "hours".

 

However, if I'd simply told it not to check for updates, then rebooted.... Or left it alone until it completed, I don't think I'd have had an issue.

 

Something I did yesterday triggered a "windows is updating your computer" dialogue that never completed.... Hence the rage fuelled restore. I won't say my actions to that point were entirely balanced and logical though.... As I've restored OS versions about 6 times in the last 6-12 months because of issues with update or hanging in update install.

 

J.

I may have been a little hasty with some actions....

 

Yes, there's an issue with "checking for updates" at the moment that can push one CPU to 100% for "hours".

 

However, if I'd simply told it not to check for updates, then rebooted.... Or left it alone until it completed, I don't think I'd have had an issue.

 

Something I did yesterday triggered a "windows is updating your computer" dialogue that never completed.... Hence the rage fuelled restore. I won't say my actions to that point were entirely balanced and logical though.... As I've restored OS versions about 6 times in the last 6-12 months because of issues with update or hanging in update install.

 

J.

 

Win Update for Win7 32bit is  badly broken; a huge number of updates are pushed out, a large number of which are mutually exclusive (ie update d/ kills update a/), a number of them cause the PC to hang if done in the order M$ pushes them, and a couple take 12+ hours each to install.

 

Doing a similar update sequence on 64bit took a fraction of the time.

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I seem to have done myself over badly here....

 

Some combination of restore and/or the clone drive processes resulted in WIN7 running off both the SSD and the HDD. Suffice to say that confused it somewhat. And lead to the rage induced incoherence above.

 

More recently.....

 

I deleted the HDD partitions and the SSD copy baulked and sulked too!

I restored to the HDD and knackered that by overwriting the start of drive. That HDD also contains the bootloader and the Linux system AND the windows backups!

At this point the system wouldn't post. - It hung on trying to identify the "thing" (HDD) hanging off the SATA no3 interface.

 

A mad/desperate or inspired combination of actions involving rescue disks and Linux has resulted in my system being recovered. And I still don't know if the 50+ updates queued will install. I may save that pleasure for when I've eaten and sampled some braveness drinks later in the day.

 

In short, Setting the BIOS to IDE allowed post with the HDD attached. Grub2 rescue disk on USB key found the Linux system and I was able to recover the start of drive and GRUB2 from there. This allowed me to restore to the SSD properly.

 

Apparently I could have recovered WIN7 boot by running commands off the command line from my WIN7 rescue or restore disk. I didn't know that at the time.

 

J.

My Win7 boot won't clear it's "Install updates and shut down" and therefore won't get any more updates.

 

On the other hand Linux Mint is working flawlessly on the other boot.

My employer still uses Win 7. I still have a home laptop running W7 and I won't be updating it to W10. I prefer it to W10, vastly, but I'm not sure how much longer Microsoft will support it.

All this talk of my Microsoft products..... I'll be getting called a 'fan boy' next

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My employer still uses Win 7........

 

We've just upgraded to Windows 7 in the last 6 months!!!!!

Had an issue with Win7 and a new Asus AMD 88 based board today, Win drivers for the onboard USB ports failed to install, so I couldnt use either the mouse or keyboard using the rear USB ports, however the driver DID work for the mobo mounted USB headers, so the front USB ports worked!! It also decided the boot devices should be the DVD drive and the card reader..........

 

A lot of swearing went on before everything was sorted.

My employer still uses Win 7. I still have a home laptop running W7 and I won't be updating it to W10. I prefer it to W10, vastly, but I'm not sure how much longer Microsoft will support it.

 

 

Extended Support for Win7 will run to Jan 2020.

 

Mainstream support for Win7 has ended. What that means is no new features or development but you'll get security patches and bug fixes for another 4yr.

 

After 2020 you really will need to move on.

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After 2020 you really will need to move on.

 

I dont see why, I still run XP on my netbook, and have yet to suffer ANY security issues with it.

likewise. But I've long since not  used XP on line, as to do so means using precious download from my monthly allowance to update Avast. W7 updates never seem to materialise, and once again MS eats into my precious ( and expensive) data allowance. 2020- I'll be almost old enough to get a free TV licence- and hopefully by then W10 updates will be selective and silver surfers will get BB at pensioner rates.

it's funny.. I had to install and patch windows 7 on a machine and had to leave it overnight to get the updates done due to the 100% bug.

 

Good luck with the fix!

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Just tripped over a wiki pointing at an update to backport DISM to win7 from win8. Of course, the syntax is different. :) As it's a Microsoft feature. :(

 

Ran the following command and found "common" corruption reports for some IE stuff. - Can be ignored it seems.

Found "many" missing bits and pieces that I should probably download packages for. Oh well, onward and upwards..... Will definitely be taking a backup of the current state of play first.

 

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /Scanhealth

ETA to #15. But by then drones and pigs will have been made into one and flying pigs will deliver mail, and BT will be giving free BB to BT pensioners. :notme:

ETA to #15. But by then drones and pigs will have been made into one and flying pigs will deliver mail, and BT will be giving free BB to BT pensioners. :notme:

you should go back on the tools, fastest BB they can supply for £1 and BT Sport for nowt :)

I have heard that over the past few weeks, the issue with Windows updates on Windows 7 and 8.1 being incredibly slow is because Microsoft is prioritising Windows updates for Windows 10.

They don't want people on Windows 7 and 8 anymore unfortunately. The agreement is to support Windows 7 until 2020 and Windows 8.1 until 2023.

 

I am remaining with Windows 7. I have seen so many issues with older machines trying to run Windows 10 its not worth it unless on a new machine. Even then I am not a Windows 10 fan.

you should go back on the tools, fastest BB they can supply for £1 and BT Sport for nowt :)

Bit late now. Heaviest thing I pick up now is Section A BT pension,a final salary scheme ,from the days when we were Civil Servants.

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