hi not sure if this is posted in the correct section if not sorry but,i,m in the notion of buying an octavia estate 4x4, but i have heard the early 2.0 scouts can give engine trouble.

do you think the older 1.9 is a more dependable engine, i don,t have a lot to spend, somewhere around £3k.

what are your opinions, many thanks.

Edited 16 April, 201610 yr by thescudd

You will probably get a half decent 1.9 4x4 for 3k and no dpf to worry about ,i had an 05 1.9 4x4 a few years back  it was a great car until the duel mass fly wheel started vibrating so i sold it as its a big job, most should of been done by now due to age and wear and tear and check for haldex 4x4 oil changes these are a must .

 

The 2.0 scout is a better car allround in my opinion, it looks better and has better standard spec as well, but the only down side is it has a dpf filter apart from this they are pretty much the same for reliability. 

You will probably get a half decent 1.9 4x4 for 3k and no dpf to worry about ,i had an 05 1.9 4x4 a few years back  it was a great car until the duel mass fly wheel started vibrating so i sold it as its a big job, most should of been done by now due to age and wear and tear and check for haldex 4x4 oil changes these are a must .

 

The 2.0 scout is a better car allround in my opinion, it looks better and has better standard spec as well, but the only down side is it has a dpf filter apart from this they are pretty much the same for reliability. 

if the car has a full service history would the haldex oil have been changed.

god the more i read about them the more concerned i get about buying one,

thanks for the replies

1.9 tdi get's the vote from me.  No DPF is a big plus on any car, plus the 1.9 is a solid engine, capable of many hundreds of thousands of miles if looked after.  I've got 2 of the 1.9tdi PD engines, wouldn't change them for anything - my first 1.9tdi was on the 2010 Fabia Sport, and it hasn't missed a beat or cost me anything.  Like it so much I've just bought a second 1.9tdi in the shape of an 57 reg Octavia MK II ...

 

Enjoy whatever you get ..

The Scout just looks better. Afaik it also has a higher ride height & some enhanced underside protection that the 'bog standard' 1.9s don't have. I've loved mine, but am chopping it in for a Saab convertible. £3250 and it's yours

Tic btw...I'm straight swapping it for the Saab.

if the car has a full service history would the haldex oil have been changed.

god the more i read about them the more concerned i get about buying one,

thanks for the replies

If the car has been properly serviced, then yes it should have been changed. But there is no specific box in the service book to tick for the Haldex oil change, so it may not be obvious, unless there are receipts which show the oil changes.

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if the car has a full service history would the haldex oil have been changed.

god the more i read about them the more concerned i get about buying one,

thanks for the replies

if its maindealer servicing the haldex oil and filter would of been recomended to be done every 20-40 k if i remember correctly and some people didnt bother,as said before check invoices for haldex oil change also check for oil leaks underneath on the input shafts for the rear wheel drive,

if no invoices for haldex and you like the car take the car for a good test drive upto at least 70-80 mph and listen for wihining noises underneath or vibrations when driving and when operating the clutch if all seems good you should be ok if no proof of haldex service try and knock this off the price ,

if its maindealer servicing the haldex oil and filter would of been recomended to be done every 20-40 k if i remember correctly and some people didnt bother,as said before check invoices for haldex oil change also check for oil leaks underneath on the input shafts for the rear wheel drive,

if no invoices for haldex and you like the car take the car for a good test drive upto at least 70-80 mph and listen for wihining noises underneath or vibrations when driving and when operating the clutch if all seems good you should be ok if no proof of haldex service try and knock this off the price ,

The filter will not have been changed. It has no service interval.

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thanks again, will find out about the oil

I have the 1.9 tdi DSG and I have to say I am impressed. 

 

It doesn't have loads of power, so don't be expecting to win a race, but it has enough torque to keep the car moving. Everyone is always impressed that its only a 105 bhp, but it can pull a load really well. Recently done an airport trip with 4 suitcases and 5 people in the car and it didn't struggle to accelerate at all. 

 

It's brilliant up to 85 mph, after that, it does start becoming uneconomical, but I stick to the road speed limits, so it's all good. 

 

The 2.0 tdi does have a lot more poke in it and it cruises nicely on motorway speeds, but if you stick to driving just the one car, then the 1.9 is something you get used to and it will feel powerful enough. I have been tempted by the remap, however at the moment I am holding off until I get bored. 

I can from a 1.9 PD130 Seat Cordoba to the 1.9 PD105 DSG Octavia. Never once have I missed the extra power and torque (and the Seat was lighter).

 

As above the 1.9 is very surprising and the instant torque when you put your foot down really does make it effortless to get moving.

 

Picked up some a couple of family members from the airport the other week and he asked "how much power has this got? 170bhp?".... he was very surprised when I said it was only 105.

 

So if you want to avoid the DPF and have slightly better fuel economy then go for the 1.9.

 

The Scouts seem to hold their value very well so you may struggle to get a decent one in your budget.

 

Phil

A Scout for £3k could be hard to find, currently the cheapest Scouts on auto trader are £3,995 and have 160k or 217k miles. Just hope mine goes on to 217k

The 1.9PD and the 2.0CR are chalk and cheese.

 

The PD quite rough in terms of it's sound, the CR isn't

The PD delivers it's power in a big glug of torque around 2k-3k, the CR has a smooth power curve, making it more like driving a petrol.

The will be in a higher tax bracket than the "clean" CR - but lets not open that can of worms

Whilst it's not perfect (poor maintenance can cause problems), the PD is doggedly reliable and most faults are DIY repairs. The CR has a load of expensive acronyms that are all expensive to get solved.

 

Personally, I drive an Ibiza with the 1.9PD in. I've done 45k in it and if it got written off tomorrow, I'd go buy another one. My mate who drives a CR engined car says mine's like a tractor and he wouldn't have one.

The 2.0 that's probably being referred to is the PD140.