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vRS Mk3 acting like a boat / not able to get the power down to the road

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Hey guys !

I have two questions and didn't want to open it up on two separate posts : 

 

One:

I assume it is a "global issue" with the vRS acting like a boat during fast cornering and high speed driving.. I mean, I basically put the captain hat on and start sailing :P
I assume Antiroll- bars will improve on this issue and I wanted to ask which should I buy, what size and which company ? and also if I "buy" for a VW GTI Mk7 it would fit me (they don't have skodas there) ? since I buy it in the US and bringing it to my country (Israel)
I checked on USP since I already got a Carbonio intake and Turbo mufler delete from them and the pricing was fair and delivery was quick.
P.S. : Don't mind the delivery price.. I have it covered.

 

Second:

 

I just got APR Stage 1 on my car, and it feels great. The thing is, in first and second gear the car barely manages to get the power all the way down to the road and the "car drifting" light blinks like all hell broke loose. I know it is also a factor of road slippery and tire temps, but I was still wondering if this is usual or I am doing something wrong ? (beside being more gentile on the pedal, as I wish to utilize this power)
I currently have a Pilot Super Sport tires on the front with medium wear and tear, and P-Zero on the rear with medium-light wear and tear (but I guess the rear tires aren't the issue here). Oh and they are all of course 225/35R19 usually at 39PSI.

 

Thank you all in advance!

Did you have the car when it had 4 tyres that were the same brand fitted matching front and rear, 

and did it handle like a boat then?

 

Sounds like you have tyre issues with the first point and the second one.

A global problem if they are giving rubbish traction and handling, 

but not all globally have that issue.

Considering the size and weight and the fact that it is FWD, I have been pretty happy with the handling of my VRS on the twisties and have found the understeer point very acceptable.

 

Perhaps we have different ideas as to what constitutes "spirited" driving but handling for me seems to be good and well in line with the specifications of the car. I have 225/35/19 P Zeros front and rear and they only have 4000km so far.

 

Re: traction - again, FWD car with no trick front diff and a Stage one means that you are always going to light up the tyres with little effort from a stop or low speeds in 1st/2nd. Even with stock ECU It is trivially easy to spin if you just plant your foot - the trick is in learning the breaking point and using the right foot with finesse to avoid it!

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I have to say.....For its size it handles fairly well, even me captain slow was able to make it go fast.

Having matching tyres all round would probably help.

Have to say the standard factory tyres aren't the most grippy, added to that a increase of bhp (guessing it's near 300bhp) and fwd......you're going to start to exceed the level of grip.

Arb, aren't really going to help the grip factor, they many improve the handling, but if you have no grip then it's not going to help much.

Maybe try a different tyre compound or increase the width to maybe 8 or 8.5

At the end of the day, globally it's a fwd car.

You can make it rear wheel drive by starting backwards, then just do a j-turn. 

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I understand.
Thank you all for you help :)

@septor

if your tyres are good, then look at the geometry setup, is it correct? both alignment and camber, caster etc.

stiffer bushes would help you put the power down, as would some stiffer dampers. a lower ride height would also make the car more planted and less likely to squat/dive.

beyond that a limited slip diff would help put the power down. stiffer aftermarket anti roll bars would also make the car roll less in the corners.

on the mk2 folks used to fit "anti lift kits" which essentially gave you better geometry for spirited driving - not sure if anyone does a kit for a mk3?

39psi?

 

yup - 2.7 bar which is the Skoda recommended for 19" on the fuel flap on the VRS TSI for light-mid load.

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@Briskodian, I assume it is correct.. didn't touch it since I bought the car.

Just an update : took it to the mountain road this evening (just came back) and it actually held great, but that was like 90% 3rd gear.. So you guys were right, it requires a really gentle and precise foot with just a little getting use to it.

 

@Newbie, It is true what you said and that is why I use 39psi, but shouldn't I use lower, like 37 or 35 for rear wheels ? I always use 39 but I wonder if lower pressure on the rear would help a little with the rear tendency to slide..

39PSI plus 19" rims will provide very little tyre flexibility. I prefer the handling and bite of 17's over the stock 18's on my VRS. I would not stick 19's on if someone gave me a set for free.

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