A friend is asking for help looking at a Fabia she's interested in.

 

It's a 2013 1.2 70 SE+ with 30,000 miles.

 

Are there any common things to check with these engines? It's at a local trader with a full Skoda history so should be in good order.

 

Is there a cambelt or are these chain driven?

 

 

Full Main Dealer Service history will not be much then,

If on Fixed Servicing, 

1st minor Service 2014  @ 9,400 miles or 372 days.

2nd Major Service 2015, same as 1st, & maybe a Pollen Filter Changed.

 

so the 3rd 2016 Minor Service should have been done, 

the Brake Fluid Changed, the rear brake drums taken off and checked & cleaned & serviced.

 

So is it out of the original manufacturers warranty now and with a new MOT?

Maybe worth buying a Skoda Warranty after the one the Dealer Provides runs out.

Yep I will be checking if the brake fluid has been done.

 

It's just out of manufacturer warranty. No MOT showing on DVLA site at the moment, but it's not long been due.

 

Only a few miles away so worth a look for the price.

 

1.2 70 should be perfect for her as she's currently got a Peugeot 107 1.0 and that does her fine. It's just not big enough.

Its a chain driven engine so not much to worry about there.

Not much to worry about at all with the HTP's tbh, as long as theyve been serviced. Take it for a test drive.

The HTP's are pretty bullet proof. Just a simple little NA 3cyl chain driven triple. Not too much power but you dont have to thrash it to get the power from it. Peak torque is at 3k.

They do what tgey say on the tin .

Edited 10 May, 201610 yr by fabiamk2SE

That's exactly what's required

 

No DMF on these I assume?

That's exactly what's required

No DMF on these I assume?

No DMF either, no

Ive got one. Exactly the same as what you're looking at. Nearly turned 30k miles too. Had it since new, its been absolutly faultless. Im hoping to keep it for years yet. Its a no thrills motor in a no thrills car really, its not fast but its comfy, suprisingly good on the motorway (they got a higher ratio gearbox after about 2011 i think it was) and returns 50mpg regularly

Had a 2005 Polo before that with the older HTP engine, 64bhp. That did 100k faultless miles before we got rid.

Its a chain driven engine so not much to worry about there.

Not much to worry about at all with the HTP's tbh, as long as theyve been serviced. Take it for a test drive.

The HTP's are pretty bullet proof. Just a simple little NA 3cyl chain driven triple. Not too much power but you dont have to thrash it to get the power from it. Peak torque is at 3k.

They do what tgey say on the tin .

 

The chain in this 1.2 motors is bad. Singel and tee times leonger than on 1.4 engine. On 1.4 it is double! Therfore more (6 times)  stretch and chanse for jump! The valve guides is bad to, and many of then uses much oil. And they can't be repaired under the head! Change piston rings and bearing can't be done, and you can't get parts for to do it in normal way. The construction is nearly a miss.

I have one 1.2 and one 1.4. I will keep the 1.4 and sell the 1.2. To bad...

Torbo's 2003 mk1 fabia engine is completely different to the engine in a mk2 2012 model. Mk2 engines were heavily revised at launch in 2007 and redesigned completely in 2010.

Prior to 2004, mk1 engines had a poor chain tensioner design that allow the chain to go slack under certain conditions (low oil pressure). Lack of regular oil changes and running with low oil levels contributed to this issue. The worn valve guides/seats issue were also mainly due to poor maintenance, i.e. not changing oil regularly.

Provided you dont skip oil changes, afaik, there are no known issues with any mk2 htp engines apart from occasional coil pack failure. Expect a coilpak failure every 50k or so, they are around £30 each and easy to replace.

Coilpak failure is a feature of just about every vag petrol engine. Other makes suffer from this too, I believe.

I ran a 2004 mk1 fabia with AZQ 64bhp 12v htp engine for 140k miles, no oil useage between services. EGR valve (£230) changed at 140k before selling.

Now had a 2009 BZG 70ps 12v htp. 53k miles no oil useage again. HTP engine is my favourite for diy servicing, easy peasy!

Edited 29 May, 201610 yr by xman

Torbo's 2003 mk1 fabia engine is completely different to the engine in a mk2 2012 model. Mk2 engines were heavily revised at launch in 2007 and redesigned completely in 2010.

Prior to 2004, mk1 engines had a poor chain tensioner design that allow the chain to go slack under certain conditions (low oil pressure). Lack of regular oil changes and running with low oil levels contributed to this issue. The worn valve guides/seats issue were also mainly due to poor maintenance, i.e. not changing oil regularly.

Provided you dont skip oil changes, afaik, there are no known issues with any mk2 htp engines apart from occasional coil pack failure. Expect a coilpak failure every 50k or so, they are around £30 each and easy to replace.

Coilpak failure is a feature of just about every vag petrol engine. Other makes suffer from this too, I believe.

I ran a 2004 mk1 fabia with AZQ 64bhp 12v htp engine for 140k miles, no oil useage between services. EGR valve (£230) changed at 140k before selling.

Now had a 2009 BZG 70ps 12v htp. 53k miles no oil useage again. HTP engine is my favourite for diy servicing, easy peasy!

 

Thanks for that. 

 

I didn't think i'd heard of those problems before . 

 

This one of mines only got 30k on it still but they're mainly longer trips, atleast 20 miles. So im hoping to get it to quite a high mileage before i have to think about it being uneconomical to run. 

 

I've had a run out today to ChrisRs today. 65 miles. About 45 of which was motorway. I had the cruise set to 80mph on the motorway and didnt hang about the rest of the run either, as i wanted to get back. It still returned 45.6mpg, not bad for a little 1.2 going at that pace. It usually gets around the 50mpg. 

Edited 30 May, 201610 yr by fabiamk2SE

Love my wife's HTP (60hp), doddle to diy service- top mounted oil filter, easy plugs and filters, only thing I find tricky to check is power steering fluid which is battery out job

only thing I find tricky to check is power steering fluid which is battery out job

Something Ive never ever checked in 12 years of fabia ownership. Its not a service check item either iirc.