Revenue from vehicle excise duty fell by £93 million in the year after the abolition of the paper tax disc, official figures show.

The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency’s annual report and accounts show that revenue from vehicle tax fell from £6.023 billion in 2014/15 to £5.930 billion the following year .

Probably due to them allowing it to be paid monthly. Only part payments showing in profits as rest is carried over to following year

Who knows eh but one things for sure crazy amount of money. When you consider how many vehicles are now zero tax. Will the person responsible, keep their job that will be a big yes.

 

Who will pay the likes of me & you. Biggest con going, car tax should be same across the board. All pay the same.

Car tax has been a con for years. It was first introduced as a payment to cover road repairs. Then over the years it has been changed and is by far no longer anything to do with the reason it was first implemented.

Even now, some councils are judging "PARKING PERMITS" based on emissions? I ask you? Wtf has emissions got to do with the size of the car that's being parked.

Motorists have and always will be ripped off as an easy way to make cash. They tell everyone to stop smoking but don't take into consideration the billions of revenue they take in from tax off the tobacco industries. So to make up that deficit and now that tax is losing cash too the motorists are going to be pounded with extra "taxes".

Watch this space!

You talk a lot of sense mike, i believe your right on the fag issue as well. Not herd the parking permit one, but nothing would surprize me. The goverment wanted every body in diesels 

 

and ended up with egg on there face. More dangerous pollutants than they first thought.

Edited 21 July, 20169 yr by kidology

 

 

Who will pay the likes of me & you. Biggest con going, car tax should be same across the board. All pay the same.

It is going to be very soon for cars registered in 2017. 

 

Everybody will pay £140 a year apart from zero emissions

 

cars over £40k will pay a supplement of £310 every year for 5 years.

 

There is a banding for the first years tax based on emissions

 

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/88361/tax-disc-changes-everything-you-need-to-know-about-uk-road-tax

As i emailed yourself, i know about the 2017 tax. My own vehicle is £300.00 a year. Same vehicle with a manual transmission is £500.00 a year ? Can anybody explain that one, also why should

 

dearer vehicles pay more? They pay more in the fuel, and vat the goverment get from day one. There should never of been a £20 or £30 road tax all pay the same .

 

People who do more miles pay more, what could be more simple. Some people with larger motor bikes, pay more in road fund than for the car they drive.

Edited 21 July, 20169 yr by kidology

As i emailed yourself, i know about the 2017 tax. My own vehicle is £300.00 a year. Same vehicle with a manual transmission is £500.00 a year ? Can anybody explain that one, also why should

 

dearer vehicles pay more? They pay more in the fuel, and vat the goverment get from day one. There should never of been a £20 or £30 road tax all pay the same .

 

People who do more miles pay more, what could be more simple. Some people with larger motor bikes, pay more in road fund than for the car they drive.

 

Well my "play thing" is a manual trans and costs me about £500 a year, if it was auto trans it would cost about £300 - why, simple the newer method of determining emissions is biased towards auto trans, all a bit of a con in real world conditions, but the manufacturer's importers successfully lobbied for that change.

Edited 21 July, 20169 yr by rum4mo

 

As i emailed yourself, i know about the 2017 tax. My own vehicle is £300.00 a year. Same vehicle with a manual transmission is £500.00 a year ? Can anybody explain that one, also why should

 

dearer vehicles pay more? They pay more in the fuel, and vat the goverment get from day one. There should never of been a £20 or £30 road tax all pay the same .

 

People who do more miles pay more, what could be more simple. Some people with larger motor bikes, pay more in road fund than for the car they drive.

And the thing missed by DVLA & HMG- Caravans . Why should large vehicles pay more, yet equivalent sized car + caravan pay the same as a car. That certainly makes a very substantial case for ditching road tax/VED and adding it to fuel .

Edited 21 July, 20169 yr by VWD

As i emailed yourself, i know about the 2017 tax. My own vehicle is £300.00 a year. Same vehicle with a manual transmission is £500.00 a year ? Can anybody explain that one, also why should

 

 

 

Obviously the Auto produces less CO2 than the manual when tested under lab conditions. I'm not sure how this translates in the real world though. When you say auto you really mean DSG don't you? technically its still a lot like manual gearbox, a lot more efficient and clever than a true Auto.

 

I agree that tax system is daft, You could pay £30 a year for a Superb 2.0 diesel and do 20K+ miles a year in it. My grandparents pay £200+ for a Meriva 1.6 petrol and do about 2000 miles a year.

 

Adding it to the fuel is a good idea in one sense but nobody would end up better off for it, it would just be another opportunity to make more money out of us. 

Edited 21 July, 20169 yr by SuperbTWM

Remember if ordering a new car with a waiting list the VED Changes from April 2017

http://carwow.co.uk/news/ved-road-tax-from-2017-0182-2060

Do the fines for forgotten tax go to DVLA or direct to the Treasury?

Edited 15 December, 20169 yr by Aspman

You do not get Fined for no VED, The DVLA have a penalty which they require you to pay.

Looks more and more as not being 'A police matter', & not one for the courts, but then it never was.

 

Prosecution might be for no valid MOT or Insurance or driving outwith your licence.

Car tax has been a con for years. It was first introduced as a payment to cover road repairs. Then over the years it has been changed and is by far no longer anything to do with the reason it was first implemented.

Even now, some councils are judging "PARKING PERMITS" based on emissions? I ask you? Wtf has emissions got to do with the size of the car that's being parked.

Motorists have and always will be ripped off as an easy way to make cash. They tell everyone to stop smoking but don't take into consideration the billions of revenue they take in from tax off the tobacco industries. So to make up that deficit and now that tax is losing cash too the motorists are going to be pounded with extra "taxes".

Watch this space!

 

Which is ridiculous as you can have something (virtually) zero emissions like an Outlander PHEV that would pay nothing, and an equivalent sized Audi Q3/Q5 for example that pays a fortune.

Which is ridiculous as you can have something (virtually) zero emissions like an Outlander PHEV that would pay nothing, and an equivalent sized Audi Q3/Q5 for example that pays a fortune.

My point exactly

scrap the VED and put a few p more on fuel. Those with a frugal car pay less whilst those with a mahoosive luxobarge/ V8 4X4 pay more.

Does away with another tier of bureaucracy in the process. Win win lol

scrap the VED and put a few p more on fuel. Those with a frugal car pay less whilst those with a mahoosive luxobarge/ V8 4X4 pay more.

Does away with another tier of bureaucracy in the process. Win win lol

 

Its a good idea in theory but if they did go down that route i'm pretty sure they would end up making more money out of us than the same amount we used to pay in tax.