A picture is worth a thousand words.

The Honda rider was traveling at such a "very high speed", his reaction time was not sufficient enough to avoid this accident. Swedish Police estimate a speed of ~250 KM/h (155mph) before the bike hit the slow moving car side-on at an intersection. At that speed, they predicted that the rider's reaction time (once the vehicle came into view) wasn't sufficient enough for him to even apply the brakes. The car had two passengers and the bike rider was found INSIDE the car with them. The Volkswagen actually flipped over from the force of impact and landed 10 feet from where the collision took place.

All three involved (two in car and the rider) were killed instantly.

This graphic demonstration was placed at the Stockholm Motorcycle Fair by the Swedish Police and Road Safety Department.

The sign above the display also noted that the rider had only recently obtained his license.

At 250 KM (155 mph) the operator is traveling at 227 feet per second.

With normal reaction time to SEE-DECIDE-REACT of 1.6 seconds the above operator would have traveled

over 363 feet while making a decision on what actions to take. In this incident the Swedish police indicate that no actions were taken.

OMG thats horrific yet makes you think very hard as i know for one i have travelled that speed+ on a bike in the past, Due to friends having tragic accidents i dont ride at all now :(

Thats awful :eek:

Ouch - can't have known the road very well (if at all) either....

thats woken me up this morning.....

:eek:

That's pretty hard hitting. I used to love bikes until I lost a friend when he and his mate had an argument with a car, the car was hardly marked. Mr P used to be a bike instructer in his spare time and the local police used to come and chat to the learners every now and again and bring similar pictures with them.

It seems in the last year Mr P's interest in bikes has resurfaced and I found myself on the back of a CBR600. Although my adrenaline was pumping, I was also aware that I am no longer 17 or 18 and it just doesn't feel the same :(

Ouch - can't have known the road very well (if at all) either....

what has knowing the road got to do with some idiot not looking and pulling out in front of you?

Not a lot - he would have been dead at 50 mph as well though. No offence intended by the post (or this one).

Speed increases the chances of getting killed if there is any form of impact, 155 mph = absolute certain death.

Where does it say anything about 'an idiot pulling out in front of you' though? Didnt see any reference to that in the original post :confused:

Had the speeds been 'the other way around' i.e. car fast, bike slow, the outcome would have been the same, sadness and death all round :(

With regards to my comment about not knowing the road, it was intended in the following fashion: if the driver had known the road, he would not have gone 155 mph knowing there was a junction. You cannot possibly assume someone will see you if you are travelling at 155 mph, which would be at least double the speed limit that must have applied, and realistically probably even more.

That kinda speed is not for the UK unless you're on a track IMHO.

Sad about the loss of live though, for all involved :(

If you ride on a public road that is not straight and level enough for you to see far enough ahead, and has junctions, at a 155 mph, you might as well start playing russian roulette. :thumbdwn:

what has knowing the road got to do with some idiot not looking and pulling out in front of you?

Who's the idiot though? the guy in the golf for pulling out not knowing the bike was doing 227 feet per second or the bike for doing that in the first place?

Knowing a biker who was killed when are car pulled out (bike was doing 60 in a 60....) I know where Bengie is coming from, however... 155 on anything (road wise) other than a deserted motorway is suicide.

I dont like bikes. The death of a friends father sealed that. They scare me.

It's a Fake!

I used to like bikes too but when it came to the fact i have been to more funerals for bike riders killed than any other it's bad especially since i'm in the army!! Also the way most bike riders ride is beyond belief, I fell sorry for the other people involved. they won't allow car drivers a F1 car so why give Biker's a near as F1 bike??

One of my mates had a very bad crash on a motorbike a long time ago (I didnt know him at the time) and he's had long-lasting side-effects from it. I also know a fair few bikers that have not had any trouble at all.

As for it being a fake - could be but still fair points have been made

Seems like its a subject close to home for a few people on here. It is with me to.

Car pulled out infront of my brothers motorbike, threw him up in the air, his helmet came undone in the air and he landed head first on the pavement. Helmet was proven to be faulty afterwards.

After being told he wouldnt make it due to a blod clot in his brain he just pulled through. Was never the same again and it has ruined his life :thumbdwn:

Dangerous things.

Does everyone realise that this isn't an actual incident - just a mock up of what could happen?

These photos have been used with any number of different explanations.

It doesn't look genuine to me , mainly because of the lack of blood and guts. They obviously wouldn't display it with brains on the dashboard but the interior looks too clean. You can never get that sort of stuff out.

looks like a reconstruction for education purposes....

It's a Fake!

Im inclined to agree

Speed increases the chances of getting killed if there is any form of impact' date=' 155 mph = absolute certain death.

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Try telling that to some of the Moto GP and WSB riders, I take it by saying that you are one of the "speed kills" brigade

i see where ww_vrs is coming from, if you go into a car doing 30mph your chances are very good but if you go into a car doin 130mph then your chances aren't exactly good.

i think bikes in themselves are perfectly safe if ridden sensibly and the most dangerous thing is ignorant drivers not looking/seeing bikes and causing accidents, sadly this doesn't help the riders that get hurt/killed :(

I am certain that this is just a staged display as I have seen it before.

The bike is an NC30 400cc Honda, so would get NOWHERE near 155MPH.

That said, the Baron is right, does not matter what your in / on, at those kind of speeds your in the hands of the big fella upstairs, I think a while back Top Gear where running cars into concrete blocks @ 70mph and it's doubtful that a driver would have survived.

Many years ago, I had a bad one, resulting in all sorts of nasties (coma and lot of surgery etc etc to patch me up, courtesy of the German health system) but I still enjoy my bikes, and get out on them whenever I can.

Staged or not, images like that can bring your mortality home to you.

Fluff'

I'm not of the 'speed kills brigade' - I like to make progress too, and getting caught doing 105 mph wasn't my best moment (or my fastest for that matter). Ignoring the fact that it's illegal to go faster than the speed limit, I'd say there is a place & set of conditions for everything. Going 100 mph in a 30 mph zone is unlikely to be safe, no matter what you're driving.

I enjoy watching a ralley where these guys scream round on a road that you'd have to drive carefully around during the week - it's safe® coz they're massively more skilled than me, they drive a car set up for that particular road surface, but also, because they are able to make one crucial assumption that during a normal road situation you can't, namely that other road users will not be coming the other way, and that there won't be a hidden junction

I reckon Bengie's post (#20) hits the nail on the head as for what I intended to say

Nothing wrong with MotoGP and similar either

i see where ww_vrs is coming from' date=' if you go into a car doing 30mph your chances are very good but if you go into a car doin 130mph then your chances aren't exactly good.

i think bikes in themselves are perfectly safe if ridden sensibly and the most dangerous thing is ignorant drivers not looking/seeing bikes and causing accidents, sadly this doesn't help the riders that get hurt/killed :([/quote']

Without any finger pointing or gesturing, I am pretty quick on my bike out of towns on national speed limit roads and when I am out, I see all sorts of toerags, 2 wheeled and 4 wheeled.

In general though, some car drivers observation could be better, education could be better as well, and without a doubt, Rich "born again" bikers should be put on a road course before jumping onto a ZX10R or a Gixxer 1000.

For example, when I picked up my Triumph 18 months or so back, there was a fresh from the crate PDI'd ZX10R Kawasaki ready to go. The bloke who bought it came out and had brand new race leathers etc and when he turned round he mush have been mid to late 50's. I got chatting to him and he admitted he was just returning to bikes after a long lay off, his last bike was CB900F2 honda.

This guy hopped on, stalled it, then wobbled out of the dealers on what was at the time, the most vicious, evil wheelie prone tank slapping beeehatch on the market.

A lot of "born agains" are attracted back by the sheer bang for bucks of modern sportsbikes, my GSXR thou cost less than 8k, evo mag invited a gixxer to their 0 - 100 -0 acceleration and braking showdown and the GSXR won. What I am not trying to do is start a "X is better than Y" argument, but where else can you get 180+ MPH Potential, with 0 - 100 quicker than a lot of supercars get to 60, and this is attracting a lot of "mature" yet inexperienced riders (ie born agains) back.

It's all horses for courses of course I just get worried about the nanny state cutting in and then telling me I can only have a bike of X horsepower, when if I was rich enough, I could pass my test, then the day after buy a car of 1000bhp.

Fluff'

I'm not of the 'speed kills brigade' - I like to make progress too' date=' and getting caught doing 105 mph wasn't my best moment (or my fastest for that matter). Ignoring the fact that it's illegal to go faster than the speed limit, I'd say there is a place & set of conditions for everything. Going 100 mph in a 30 mph zone is unlikely to be safe, no matter what you're driving.

I enjoy watching a ralley where these guys scream round on a road that you'd have to drive carefully around during the week - it's safe® coz they're massively more skilled than me, they drive a car set up for that particular road surface, but also, because they are able to make one crucial assumption that during a normal road situation you can't, namely that other road users will not be coming the other way, and that there won't be a hidden junction

I reckon Bengie's post (#20) hits the nail on the head as for what I intended to say

Nothing wrong with MotoGP and similar either [/quote']

I knew what ya meant mate, I wuz just bein pedantic :rofl:

no worries