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Hi

 

I have my personal email with Virgin Media and use IMAP. My work email is set up via Outlook 2016 and I want to keep the two separate so am looking for another email client for the Virgin email. I was using Windows Live Mail but find this very slow and problematic so am looking for another suggested client that supports IMAP.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Martin

I'd try Thunderbird if you need a desktop client?

Any reason why you want to keep them in separate mail clients instead of in Outlook. Outlook will keep the emails in different files for you anyway and the you can arrange your folders in order you like plus the search, rules and features of Outlook are far beyond the majority of other email clients. 

^^ I run 2 emails (one work and one personal) on Outlook on my phone. The inboxes are separate but they can be combined.

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Any reason why you want to keep them in separate mail clients instead of in Outlook. Outlook will keep the emails in different files for you anyway and the you can arrange your folders in order you like plus the search, rules and features of Outlook are far beyond the majority of other email clients. 

Yup - Company policy. Outlook is their's so you can't use it. If it was not for the fact I am a systems admin I would not even be able to use a second email client!!  :envy:

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I'd try Thunderbird if you need a desktop client?

I did look at this some time and probably many revisions ago - just taken a new look and it has possibilities 

Yup - Company policy. Outlook is their's so you can't use it. If it was not for the fact I am a systems admin I would not even be able to use a second email client!! :envy:

Would you really want your personal emails on a company machine which they could demand to inspect at anytime?

Do you also have official permission to add the 2nd client or are you using your position to side step policy?

Just playing devils advocate, as I know a few people recently stung using/abusing their position to get around IT policies, and also having personal information/devices accessed and leading to a raft of issues because connecting to a company system/device automatically grants the company permissions to inspect it at any time. Use social media as an example?

One had their personal iPhone wiped losing everything on it and all their icloud data lost including irreplaceable pictures and videos of their children because someone selected the wrong device when revoking a stolen company handset.

Personally I'd keep personal and private stuff completely separate.

Thunderbird, not only better than Outlook, but the back ups actually WORK, and dont turn out to be corrupt half the time.

Thunderbird, not only better than Outlook, but the back ups actually WORK, and dont turn out to be corrupt half the time.

Must be really unlucky as never had this issue
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Would you really want your personal emails on a company machine which they could demand to inspect at anytime?

Do you also have official permission to add the 2nd client or are you using your position to side step policy?

Just playing devils advocate, as I know a few people recently stung using/abusing their position to get around IT policies, and also having personal information/devices accessed and leading to a raft of issues because connecting to a company system/device automatically grants the company permissions to inspect it at any time. Use social media as an example?

One had their personal iPhone wiped losing everything on it and all their icloud data lost including irreplaceable pictures and videos of their children because someone selected the wrong device when revoking a stolen company handset.

Personally I'd keep personal and private stuff completely separate.

Yes - I am one of the 'they' so to speak. I can install anything I want on my laptop as long as either the company or I hold a licence for it or it is free to use and does not cause issues with our systems. I don't tend to keep any personal documents on it but do like to be able to access my own email. To avoid an possible error I want to use a different client which I do frequently use for testing when we need email from an external source to one of our systems for testing. I could just use the web portal but it is a pain so would rather use an email client.

 

I have installed Thunderbird 45.5 and set it up. Looks OK so far the only annoying thing is the System Integration pop up that seems not to like that TB is not the default email client I can't get it to stop. Tried the suggestions on the web so far without success.

Must be really unlucky as never had this issue

 

 

I must admit it has been a long time since I gave up on Outlook; some time around the turn of the century; certainly at that time it was crap. It used to store all your saved emails as a single binary string, and when it got to a certain length, corrupted, so you lost everything.

 

In contrast, every TB back up I made worked, I only lost a decades worth of emails when the Police took my PCs and broke them; everything came back in pieces and with corrupted files everywhere, presumably from whatever stupid software scanners they used to try and find kiddie porn on my hard drives.

 

I lost a lot of family photos as well, so I know it wasnt a TB issue.

I must admit it has been a long time since I gave up on Outlook; some time around the turn of the century; certainly at that time it was crap. It used to store all your saved emails as a single binary string, and when it got to a certain length, corrupted, so you lost everything.

In contrast, every TB back up I made worked, I only lost a decades worth of emails when the Police took my PCs and broke them; everything came back in pieces and with corrupted files everywhere, presumably from whatever stupid software scanners they used to try and find kiddie porn on my hard drives.

I lost a lot of family photos as well, so I know it wasnt a TB issue.

It has been a long time as stopped that almost 2 decades ago!

It has been a long time as stopped that almost 2 decades ago!

 

Unless they did a radical rewrite later I still wouldnt trust it, all they did initially was increase the maximum size of the string, so your emails were still being saved in one long binary file that meant any error corrupted the whole lot; and going to the cloud just means even more chance of it getting lost/inaccessible.

 

Is there anyone on here with the techy knowledge of how the current version works??

 

FF and TB have a very good backup system built in, and there is also Mozbackup, an excellent 3rd party programs that backs up user accounts, emails, bookmarks, addons, AND account settings, so if you lose everything, and have to install on a new HDD, it only takes running the Mozbackup program and its saved files to restore your accounts.

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I've just been using webmail for the last few years. I've installed but not tried it fully yet, emclient http://www.emclient.com but really I've just been relying on webmail interfaces on any device, anywhere I go. Of curse with imap you don't really need to worry about the backup locally.

 

I've had joy with thunderbird but found it to be a bit of a resource hog indexing, mind you I'd be trying to do 20 other things at once too. All that actually changed when I got SSD drives as the cost of opening a program was cut massively. Now i just open things when I need them and close... but I'd already converted to the webmail path then.

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