Dear all,

 

I have had my Superb Kombi a year now and its been brilliant.  The only low point in this year was some dope crashing into the passenger side of my car, damaging both the doors (fixed under his insurance).

 

The insurance body-shop did a good repair.  But when I collected the car there was a hissing noise (wind noise) from the rear passenger door, above 50 mph.  So I took it back and after various adjustments they managed to fix this (I've since learned, from here, that this was an issue with Superbs).  I am sure the body-shop said the rear passenger door is a completely new door.

 

Since we have got into winter, I have noticed that the rear passenger door inner-seal is always wet along the top of the door.  When I open the door, there seems to be an inner and outer seal running along the top of the window, with a drain gulley in between.  The inner seal is always damp and I ran my finger along the drain gulley and it had some muck in it.

 

Comparing visually with the rear door on the drivers side, there doesn't seem to be any obvious difference and they feel the same if you run your finger along them externally.

 

Could this be down to:

 

(i) incorrectly fitted seal?  or

(ii) the door being mis-aligned as a result of the body-shops efforts to fix the hissing air issue?

 

As it happens, I just got my official letter in asking to take the car to the dealer for its emissions rectification.  I was thinking of asking them to look the door seal over at the same time - good idea?

 

Thanks for any advice!

 

 

Seems like a perfect idea to ask the Dealership to check, and then with the benefit of their experience ask the repairer to complete the job and repair properly.

Thanks Offski, im waiting on the dealer calling me back to book the car in for its emissions service so will mention it then.

Cheers

OT, but why are you having the emmissions 'Fix',

 do you think it is a good idea rather than waiting on more reports from early adopters.

 

Does your car not run well now?

OT, but why are you having the emmissions 'Fix',

 do you think it is a good idea rather than waiting on more reports from early adopters.

 

Does your car not run well now?

 

An interesting point I had not considered tbh.

 

Have people experienced trouble after the work has been done, I haven't heard anything?

 

The car does run well just now, but I had thought we were obliged to have the work done given we are charged our road tax based on emissions.

 

The letter I received says independent testing authorities confirm there is no effect on power, economy etc as a result of the update.

Read the forum :)

Honestly - don't do the fix.

You are not required to have 'The Fix',

and the VW Group are supposedly paying the UK Government / HMRC for lost VED.

The UK Government announced that owners would not have to pay.

"... I had thought we were obliged to have the work done given we are charged our road tax based on emissions."

 

The letter I received says independent testing authorities confirm there is no effect on power, economy etc as a result of the update.

 

The emissions affected/meant to be corrected by the update are for NOx. The road tax rates are for CO2 which was not part of the "cheat". Your road tax will stay exactly the same regardless of whether you have the fix applied or not.

 

The letter does make the statement you have mentioned but gives no details. Many of us are suspicious of the lack of proof given and thus are waiting for more real world driving reports before proceeding.

 

This is not to say that the letter is another "lie" from VAG, However - there is a question about the extent to which the engine behaviour will be affected. For example:

 

"No effect on power" - that may just mean that the top HP: value stays the same. However - what if that top HP only comes in at 5000rpm or a similarly impractical RPM? 

 

"No effect on economy" - that statement is based on using the existing and discredited MPG tests. The "fix" could give the same results on that test but also be considerably worse on real world driving patterns.

 

The same consideration goes for torque - they can tell me it has not been reduced and that may be true. However - if the max torque only comes in at 3000 rpm rather than 1750 - the nature of the car will be utterly changed. 

 

Of course - I am making up the figures i have used above simply to illustrate a point. And here is the problem - I have to make them up because VAG has given me nothing more than the assurances in the letter. We have seen no before/after fix results/figures/dyno graphs etc.

 

For that reason - I will wait. 

 

Of course - I am making up the figures i have used above simply to illustrate a point. And here is the problem - I have to make them up because VAG has given me nothing more than the assurances in the letter. We have seen no before/after fix results/figures/dyno graphs etc.

 

For that reason - I will wait. 

 

Hi thanks a lot, you make the point very clearly.

 

I'm not sure what to do now, I thought this was just a formality.

 

The letter says its been verified that there is no negative impact on "engine performance" - does that not indicate that the power / torque profiles are as before?

 

The letter letter also says over 285,000* vehicles have been updated so far, surely if there were negative outcomes that would have been flagged up by now?

 

(*presumably that figure refers various VAG models?)

VW Group might well have done the fix on the vehicles they say they have.

But then the VW Group own millions of vehicles through their finance Group and lease and hire out and have back in and sold on.

 

How many Privately Owned and kept vehicles that have done are not going to be the high number that VW quote.

As to the testing on MPG, after the Fix was suspended in Australia after complaints the Independent Tests have not been explained as to were they vehicles tested On the Road before & after the Defeat Device Removal & the New Engine Management applied',

Or was it EU Type Testing on Rolling Roads. 

Tthe only official figures ever published pre and post scandal is EU Tests and maybe the EU Test done again can match the 'Official Figures', 

but they never were 'REAL WORLD.

So no change on something that only drivers / owners know they were getting when driving on roads, so VW are guaranteeing nothing really.

eg

http://skoda.co.uk/pages/fuel-consumption-statement.aspx

Edited 4 January, 20179 yr by Offski

 

The letter letter also says over 285,000* vehicles have been updated so far, surely if there were negative outcomes that would have been flagged up by now?

 

(*presumably that figure refers various VAG models?)

 

Yes, It is referring to the various VAG products. The following are the reported figures for the UK (they are massively behind where they wanted to be at this point).

 

The VW Group has said that the following quantities of UK vehicles are set for a recall... 

• • VW  - 508,276
• • Audi - 393,450
• • Skoda - 131,569
• • SEAT - 76,773
• • VW commercial vehicles - 79,838

Total VW Group cars set for UK recall: 1,189,906