The 6sp DSG is a good unit but it leaves the factory in a very lethargic state of tune. By that, I mean you get up to 'D5' within about 10 seconds.....it needs the tune up that it can have to jiggle the ecu. Mine is lovely mated to the 3.6 and I have the paddles which makes a massive difference. As long as it's regularly serviced (gearbox oil and filter) it should last a while.

Not driven the 7sp but have read mixed reviews on the forum.....

Dave

The 6sp DSG is a good unit but it leaves the factory in a very lethargic state of tune. By that, I mean you get up to 'D5' within about 10 seconds.....it needs the tune up that it can have to jiggle the ecu. Mine is lovely mated to the 3.6 and I have the paddles which makes a massive difference. As long as it's regularly serviced (gearbox oil and filter) it should last a while.

Not driven the 7sp but have read mixed reviews on the forum.....

Dave

You might have a "V6 specific" program on your DSG?

 

I/we find that the 6 speed can shift-up early,but only on a light throttle. More right foot = later shift points, even more so in "S".

Our Golf is much newer, with later software, probably tweaked to suit that particular engine, & the shifting pattern is even more variable, depending on what the driver is asking the car to do. 

 

DC

I've not driven the latest ones, but I renamed the early ones "dog s### gearbox". I put them down as being part of VAGs "emporers new clothes" program, where they found something people who are buying new cars don't like, did it badly, told them it's not what it really is, polished it up well, stuck a fancy name on it, and sold millions.

The other main example being all the yummy mummy's driving about in t5 vans (actually it's a caravelle or a california, and it's not a van, it's a lifestyle vehicle ).

Edited 23 January, 20179 yr by StevesTruck

I quite like the DSG (7 speed on a 2.0 TSI superb), the smooth and powerful surge in power is excellent.  I agree with Wile7, in Drive it likes to switch up gears quite quickly.  In Sport I think it actually sits noisily in a low gear for too long, so I use Drive for normal (more economical use) and semi-auto for fun.  There is a definite lag if you slow down for lights then try to take off when it suddenly turns green, but dat surge.

5 hours ago, Splenborg said:

I quite like the DSG (7 speed on a 2.0 TSI superb), the smooth and powerful surge in power is excellent.  I agree with Wile7, in Drive it likes to switch up gears quite quickly.  In Sport I think it actually sits noisily in a low gear for too long, so I use Drive for normal (more economical use) and semi-auto for fun.  There is a definite lag if you slow down for lights then try to take off when it suddenly turns green, but dat surge.

Erm... all the current & older 2.0 TSi's use the DQ250 (wet clutch) 6-speed, the DQ200 (dry clutch) 7-speed is only used on the lower powered engines. 

 

AFAIK the new Kodiaq will the 1st Skoda 2.0 TSi to use the new wet clutch 7-speed, 'tis rumored that Superb 280 might use it in the future.

 

DC

They'll end up with a variomatic gearbox like  the old dafs. I don't opt for the dsg as I do high mileage so don't want the  complexity, fault liability , maintenance, cost of purchase ,running and extra fuel consumption 

Edited 20 February, 20179 yr by peterposh

On 18/02/2017 at 05:29, old newbie2 said:

Erm... all the current & older 2.0 TSi's use the DQ250 (wet clutch) 6-speed, the DQ200 (dry clutch) 7-speed is only used on the lower powered engines. 

 

AFAIK the new Kodiaq will the 1st Skoda 2.0 TSi to use the new wet clutch 7-speed, 'tis rumored that Superb 280 might use it in the future.

 

DC

 

You're entirely right old newbie2, I meant to type 6 speed! (and it is wet as you say). 

Edited 20 February, 20179 yr by Splenborg

On 2/20/2017 at 07:42, peterposh said:

They'll end up with a variomatic gearbox like  the old dafs. I don't opt for the dsg as I do high mileage so don't want the  complexity, fault liability , maintenance, cost of purchase ,running and extra fuel consumption 

 

A few manufacturers have already gone for CVT gearboxes. Subaru, Lexus, Toyota and a few others.

 

Others have gone back to trusty old torque converter based gearboxes made by ZF. These then don't have flywheels and clutches to worry about.

 

Certainly for more powerful engines it seems they use the likes of a ZF gearbox as the torque converters are a bit more robust!

On 2/21/2017 at 12:41, Phil-E said:

Certainly for more powerful engines it seems they use the likes of a ZF gearbox as the torque converters are a bit more robust!

Where do you get that info, most performance models are now-days using dual-clutch instead of the torque converters ...

I wasn't specifically referring to performance models. I said powerful engines.

 

BMW use the ZF 8 speed in a few of their cars especially the higher torque diesels. Jaguar also use this gearbox and in the range rover I believe.

 

VW use an 8 speed torque converter in the Touareg and Audi use them in their bigger cars too.

 

Torque converters are reliable and can deal with much more torque than a clutch can.

 

I can set off in 3rd gear in my car and just use one gear to get up to 70 mph from a standstill.

 

Phil

Whats the service life of the dsg friction plates?  The torque convertor has a theoretical everlasting life

12 hours ago, Phil-E said:

I wasn't specifically referring to performance models. I said powerful engines.

 

BMW use the ZF 8 speed in a few of their cars especially the higher torque diesels. Jaguar also use this gearbox and in the range rover I believe.

 

VW use an 8 speed torque converter in the Touareg and Audi use them in their bigger cars too.

 

Torque converters are reliable and can deal with much more torque than a clutch can.

 

I can set off in 3rd gear in my car and just use one gear to get up to 70 mph from a standstill.

 

Phil

FWIW, the Audi R8 now uses a 7-speed DCT, & most hi-performance cars use DCT's rather than manuals.

 

Torque Converter transmissions can indeed handle high torque inputs, but since all the modern slushboxes are attached to multi-ratio gearboxes,

their torque converters are locked-up rather than slipping, so they aren't under any stress.

 

Back in the day the old 2 & 3 speed autos spent much of their time slipping, & their efficiency was much lower than manual boxes.

 

DC