Hi All

 

I have a 2014 L&K with Xenons.

 

After a long saga I have two new headlight units and one new side light. They where letting in water after a front end shunt. Apprently they got hairline cracks that killed the LEDs..

 

I am now getting an intermittent 'check right hand side light message'. 

 

First of all, when you have Xenons with LEDs what is meant by the side light? It is not the LEDs as they had there own message. Is it te two lights at the bottom of the bumper? These are the ones that turn on when you turn left and right. Both appear fine.

 

I cant see anything wrong when the warning goes on. It also sorts itself out after a bit of a run.

 

Any suggestions?

 

I have VCDS if needed.

 

Thanks

 

Garnett

Side lights are the 501 bulbs. The picture below shows the side light position symbol.

 

As you have the bi-xenon headlights the sidelights are LED.

 

The LED DRL (Daytime Running Lights) dim to perform the role of sidelights.

 

If you are getting an error message for the sidelight then it is the LED tube that is failing. You can check the 'Service Status' via the menu's on the radio. It is likely that if you are getting reports of a side light failure you will also be seeing a failure message for the same side DRL too.

 

 

Unfortunately failing LED DRL's are becoming an increasingly common complaint on here. There are several reports of them failing, see here...

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/331062-intermittent-drl-failure/

 

Hairline fractures? I don't think so, sounds like a typical excuse from a dealer that doesn't really know why they failed.

 

Did they fail immediately after the shunt? Did both sides fail at the same time?

 

 

The lights in the lower bumper are your fog lights that double up as cornering lights on the L&K (and on other models where it is a factory cost option)...

 

 

Edited 20 January, 20179 yr by silver1011

Hi = I was shown the lights. Definitely a hairline crack. The lights are a bad design with a glass spade that points forward. My insurance company looked at them as well and agreed.

 

The LED DRL warning is not what I have. I know because this is what I had suring the rain when the LEDs got wet and failed.

 

This warning is definitely RH Side Light - not DRL.

 

The manual says it is easy access so I will change the bulb and see if that is the problem.

 

Garnett

It does still have 501 type sidelight bulbs in each side, despite the LED DRLs dimming in "sidelight" mode.

Have you physically checked this is still working? The holder twists out from the back of the headlamp unit to reveal the 501 bulb in holder.

As you have the bi-xenon headlights the sidelights are LED.

The LED DRL (Daytime Running Lights) dim to perform the role of sidelights.

If you are getting an error message for the sidelight then it is the LED tube that is failing. You can check the 'Service Status' via the menu's on the radio. It is likely that if you are getting reports of a side light failure you will also be seeing a failure message for the same side DRL too.

Unfortunately failing LED DRL's are becoming an increasingly common complaint on here. There are several reports of them failing, see here...

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/331062-intermittent-drl-failure/

Hairline fractures? I don't think so, sounds like a typical excuse from a dealer that doesn't really know why they failed.

Did they fail immediately after the shunt? Did both sides fail at the same time?

The lights in the lower bumper are your fog lights that double up as cornering lights on the L&K (and on other models where it is a factory cost option)...

Unfortunately this isn't true. There is - as someone else has said - a 501 bulb. It's located behind that large silver reflector type object in the light cluster.

Should at least be an easy fix then!

Yeah I replaced my sidelight bulb with an LED, it's very easy to access. The big circular cover beside the headlight bulb cover, so the innermost cover if that makes sense.

Thanks All

 

I can confirm that the side light and the LED DRLs are completely different. They are definately not LED like the DRLs. I will probably replace them with LEDs as I have some from doing my numberplate. I take it I will need to code the as well?

 

The side lights are simple to get to and just the push in type. fixed for 50p!

 

Garnett

Thanks All

I can confirm that the side light and the LED DRLs are completely different. They are definately not LED like the DRLs. I will probably replace them with LEDs as I have some from doing my numberplate. I take it I will need to code the as well?

The side lights are simple to get to and just the push in type. fixed for 50p!

Garnett

Yes swap them for LED, it gets rid of the rubbish yellow look the standard halogen sidelights create in the bottom of the headlamp. You will need them coded for LED though or you'll get an error.

On the Octavia MKIII Vrs the DRL's are the side lights when the dipped headlights come on. They Dim to become sidelights. If the DRL's are not used as side lights then the DRL's must go out and other lights must come on to be used as side lights. The little bulbs in the head light cluster are on when the DRL's or dipped head lights are on. I think the little lights on the Vrs are used mainly for cosmetic looks. On non Bi Xenon lights that is where the main beam usually is but as the Vrs has Bi Xenons this part of the headlight is not used.

Edited 21 January, 20179 yr by Auric Goldfinger

Thanks All

 

I can confirm that the side light and the LED DRLs are completely different. They are definately not LED like the DRLs. I will probably replace them with LEDs as I have some from doing my numberplate. I take it I will need to code the as well?

 

The side lights are simple to get to and just the push in type. fixed for 50p!

 

Garnett

 

As the L & K use the same head light cluster as the Vrs the DRL's are also the side lights, they dim when the dipped headlights come on. If they are not used as side lights then they must go out and another bulb used to become side lights. But the DRL's don't go out on dipped headlights.  If you go into the light settings in the Car menu on the radio and untick the DRL box to turn them off they don't come on as DRL's ( dipped headlights off ) but come on as side lights when the dipped head lights come on.

 

Therefor they are Sidelight

Edited 21 January, 20179 yr by Auric Goldfinger

Thanks All

 

I can confirm that the side light and the LED DRLs are completely different. They are definately not LED like the DRLs. I will probably replace them with LEDs as I have some from doing my numberplate. I take it I will need to code the as well?

 

The side lights are simple to get to and just the push in type. fixed for 50p!

 

Garnett

Just buy these and the result will look like this.

They are extreme bright for a T10 bulb and consume real 3-4 Watts, coding not required. :)

Keep in mind that it's been said many times on this forum to avoid CANBUS free bulbs and just do it properly and code an LED.

Keep in mind that it's been said many times on this forum to avoid CANBUS free bulbs and just do it properly and code an LED.

 

^^ This

I beg to disagree with a lot of these comments on here that the DRL are the side lights!

DRL lights are on regardless of moving the light switch to a position, now when you select side lights from the picture in the #2 post, then the DRL's dim & the side lights (501) bulbs come on, the reason for the DRL's to dim when you select the side lights is because another bulb has been told to turn on, dipped beam is still not on at this point as they are your main xenon D3s bulbs!

So by selecting side lights, which is a stage before dipped beam, the DRL's dim anyway.

Edit: This is if you have the DRL option ticked in the car menu settings.

Edited 22 January, 20179 yr by BATVANVRS

The Octavia is unique by having a W5W sidelight bulb in addition to dimmed LED DRL's for the side light (and dipped headlight) function.

 

Both the MkII Superb and Yeti utilise the LED DRL's for both the DRL and sidelight function, there is no W5W bulb, the dimmed DRL performs the role of side lights by itself.

 

Not sure why Skoda fitted the W5W bulb on the Octavia, it is all but redundant, in that even with the DRL's dimmed you can barely see it.

 

What happens when the parking lights are turned on, does just the W5W bulb light up or does the DRL still light up too (dimmed)? If the latter then the W5W bulb is even more redundant.

 

 

Edited 22 January, 20179 yr by silver1011

The Octavia is unique by having a W5W sidelight bulb in addition to dimmed LED DRL's for the side light (and dipped headlight) function.

 

Both the MkII Superb and Yeti utilise the LED DRL's for both the DRL and sidelight function, there is no W5W bulb, the dimmed DRL performs the role of side lights by itself.

 

Not sure why Skoda fitted the W5W bulb on the OCtavia, it is all but redundant, in that even with the DRL's dimmed you can barely see it.

 

What happens when the parking lights are turned on, does just the W5W bulb light up or does the DRL still light up too (dimmed)? If the latter then the W5W bulb is even more redundant.

DRL strip for the parking light.

It's almost as if the side light was some sort of early 'eye lash' like the Superb has, but nowhere near as effective in this cae.

Ah yes, the MkIII Superb headlights are pretty smart...

 

22 hours ago, SC03OTT said:

DRL strip for the parking light.

It's almost as if the side light was some sort of early 'eye lash' like the Superb has, but nowhere near as effective in this cae.

DRL & side lights light up (DRL & 501 bulb) you can easily tell by looking at the claw within the light that the 501 bulb is lit but this is if you actually use the light switch to position to side lights & lock the car! but then I presume you guys are probably talking about using the headlight assist lever? which in this case would be parking mode you guys refer too?

Edited 23 January, 20179 yr by BATVANVRS

Anyone knows VCDS coding for LED side lights?

On Octavia 2015, I changed those halogen w5w 12V small bulbs.

Error shows not everyday (strange), even when switched on parking lights!

 

I googled 2 days and have no solution found. Even scanned all adaptations and still no plausible option found.

License plate LED coding was simple to find, but those side lights are killing me.

I don't want to add resistors or change to some china LED bulbs when have vcds.

Any suggestions?

19 minutes ago, Octa15 said:

Anyone knows VCDS coding for LED side lights?

On Octavia 2015, I changed those halogen w5w 12V small bulbs.

Error shows not everyday (strange), even when switched on parking lights!

 

I googled 2 days and have no solution found. Even scanned all adaptations and still no plausible option found.

License plate LED coding was simple to find, but those side lights are killing me.

I don't want to add resistors or change to some china LED bulbs when have vcds.

Any suggestions?

 

It's very similar to coding number plate LEDs. Just a different channel for the adaptation. 

 

It is in the VCDS sticky thread...

 

The channels you need to change are:

(1)-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Lasttyp 16 to 6 - LED Lichtmodul 

(1)-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Lasttyp 17 to 6 - LED Lichtmodul

 

6 minutes ago, ahenners said:

 

It's very similar to coding number plate LEDs. Just a different channel for the adaptation. 

 

It is in the VCDS sticky thread...

 

The channels you need to change are:

(1)-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Lasttyp 16 to 6 - LED Lichtmodul 

(1)-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Lasttyp 17 to 6 - LED Lichtmodul

 

Whow man, that was unexpected, thanks. Seems I need improve my googling skills I will try tomorrow. 

In my scanned maps I found such keys:

ENG116952-ENG116176-Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Lasttyp 16,8 - allgemeine Glühlampe 12W
ENG116953-ENG116195-Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Lasttyp 17,8 - allgemeine Glühlampe 12W

 

Strange, as I remember there were bulbs 5W not 12W

 

Anyway, I started to feel hope again, thanks

 

I just got a "Check your right side light!" warning message in my Maxidot right after I finished washing my car. I saw it's the litle light behind the reflector and not the Xenon or LED.
Now Q is how to replace it? I see a cap to remove, but what is the bulb description? I saw in Russia someone added here LED light in color instead of halogen bulb?

I found I need to replace this bulb. Q is if I get a LED one will I still get an error message?

 

 

Edited 11 November, 20178 yr by Croat