Hi, after less than 13000 miles my Skoda Superb Executive needs new front pads and discs.

In all my 45 years of driving, this is a new one on me - I am extremely disappointed!

2 hours ago, gAMBI said:

Hi, after less than 13000 miles my Skoda Superb Executive needs new front pads and discs.

In all my 45 years of driving, this is a new one on me - I am extremely disappointed!

 

Thats not good..

 

Whats the tread depth on the tyres ? are these still on the original ? Manual or DSG ?

The tyres are in excellent condition.

Manual drive.

That's worrying - my car had it's last service just before it was a year old with about 30,000 on the clock and they were fine - 1.6 TDi manual, and the tyres still had 4mm tread left on them.

 

That said, I live in flat East Anglia and note the OP lives in potentially a hillier area so may have made more use of brakes than me (OK, a rash assumption but just trying to consider all angles!).

My rear discs were replaced after only 5k miles.

Hi everyone, just joined this forum for this very reason, my car is just over a year old and done 27,000 miles mostly motorway, the car has been in today for some work under warranty and they have done a vehicle health check and have said the front brake pads and discs are 85% worn, the original tyres are still on with 4mm left on front, my last car I did 110,000 miles and changed the pads once but never changed discs, the car before 72,000 with one change of pads and the car before that 88,000 with one change of pads, I really can't believe how bad they have worn, there is a significant lip on both front discs and the pads are worn pretty well down So not doubting what the garage s saying, my opening question is if this excessive wear is common on this model?

For context, I'm on 56k, original pads and discs with no warning from recent Skoda service. That included 2 trips to the Alps with plenty of heavy braking..

Who has told you this? It might be worth a second opinion

 

When I took my MkII Superb to a local dealer for it's first service at 17500 miles ayr 20 months old I also was told that the front discs and pads needed replacing because of serious corrosion on the discs. I took a look when I got home through the gaps in the wheels ( it was on it's winter steelies) and I couldn't see any problem with either pads or discs.

So I phoned them up. 'oh, it was seen when the technician took the wheels off"

But they weren't taken off I said.

"oh I am sure they were"

No, you haven't taken them off as the plastic wheel covers still have the (distinctive) cable ties still attached.

"oh., i'll check"......"you are right the technician saw it from under the vehicle."

 

I sold the car at 35,000 miles still on the original pads and discs, it had passed two MOT's and the last service at a different dealer had said the pads were 40% worn and no mention of disc problems.

Edited 15 August, 20178 yr by Bristolf2b
correction of spelling

I'm a apprenticed trained mechanical engineer I've checked the front wheels, there is a significant lip on both front discs and around 3-5mm of friction material left on the pads, so I'm not doubting what the garage says, I'm just surprised that this is the case based on the type of driver and driving I have done and on past experience with cars, I'm just wondering if this is an issue with the MK111 superb, I also have a feeling it has something to do with the ACC as it uses the brakes a lot to slow down rather than engine braking.

Wowsers.  That seems like very premature wear indeed.  In my 11 years ownership of several consecutive VAG cars, taking some for new up to 80K miles, I've never had to replace discs or pads....

3 hours ago, Kermittheflyingbog said:

I'm a apprenticed trained mechanical engineer I've checked the front wheels, there is a significant lip on both front discs and around 3-5mm of friction material left on the pads, so I'm not doubting what the garage says, I'm just surprised that this is the case based on the type of driver and driving I have done and on past experience with cars, I'm just wondering if this is an issue with the MK111 superb, I also have a feeling it has something to do with the ACC as it uses the brakes a lot to slow down rather than engine braking.

Agreed they seem to be wearing very quickly.  But I am with @Kermittheflyingbog that with ACC on the brakes are used a considerable amount more.  Just come back from France from a 2 week holiday, did 1.8K miles so not insignificant.  Used ACC allot on the toll roads and when you come up behind another car if you are not quick enough or don't have the space to overtake brakes are on.  I know you can set the distance and sometimes I do shorten it but if you had it on manual and just using the accelerator you may just lifted off the gas and coasted and just touched the brakes.  Interesting.  

15 hours ago, RGKTSi said:

Agreed they seem to be wearing very quickly.  But I am with @Kermittheflyingbog that with ACC on the brakes are used a considerable amount more.  Just come back from France from a 2 week holiday, did 1.8K miles so not insignificant.  Used ACC allot on the toll roads and when you come up behind another car if you are not quick enough or don't have the space to overtake brakes are on.  I know you can set the distance and sometimes I do shorten it but if you had it on manual and just using the accelerator you may just lifted off the gas and coasted and just touched the brakes.  Interesting.  

 

my exact thoughts - the more u use ACC, the more brake usage.

but is so convinent to use ACC through normal everyday traffic jams.
tis a shame though that both the rotors and pads are getting worn out quick!!  if it was just the pads wearing out quick, it wouldn't have been so bad.

guess if one can resist the convenience of ACC, then i would expect longer lasting brakes.

On 15/08/2017 at 14:36, Kermittheflyingbog said:

Hi everyone, just joined this forum for this very reason, my car is just over a year old and done 27,000 miles mostly motorway, the car has been in today for some work under warranty and they have done a vehicle health check and have said the front brake pads and discs are 85% worn, the original tyres are still on with 4mm left on front, my last car I did 110,000 miles and changed the pads once but never changed discs, the car before 72,000 with one change of pads and the car before that 88,000 with one change of pads, I really can't believe how bad they have worn, there is a significant lip on both front discs and the pads are worn pretty well down So not doubting what the garage s saying, my opening question is if this excessive wear is common on this model?

 

We had a Golf TDi. When the car went in for its 30,000 mile service at the VW garage they said it needed new discs and pads. I said I would sort it later since when I changed the winter wheels a few weeks earlier I checked the pads etc and they were fine. The were most insistent they would not last until the next service at 40,000 mile thus they were required by law to notify us. Kept an eye on then over the next year and when i changed the wheels over just before the 40,000 mile service they were still fine. But at the service they phoned to say the pads and discs were shot and needed changing immediately, simply ignored them. Same thing again at 50,000 miles, ignored them again, getting bored by then. At 60,000 the pads were getting ready but the discs were still fine but they said nothing. Eventually changed them at 63,000 miles. discs were still original when we sold the car and were still well within the limits.

 

Would never believe a word they said again.

I have my rear pads changed at 30k and after some research it does seem that all the new safety features use the brakes a lot more than we think. Overall they are quite cheap to change and keep us safe.

 

Going back a few years I had an auto driving in London a lot and had to change pads every 5k -6k.  

As I have said, i am an apprentice trained mechanical engineers,  I've built my own kit car and currently maintain 4 motorcycles, I have very good mechanical knowledge, I'm not doubting what the garage say, there is a definite lip of around 1-2mm on the discs(rotors to give them their proper name) and the pads have around 4mm left on them, I find this ware a bit extreme for a car that is 17month old with 27,000 miles (mostly motorway) o the clock, I do a lot of miles and I'm not a heavy braker, previous cars have easily don 40,000 on a set of pads and discs geting 80,000+ out of them. I posted on here to see if this is a problem with the MK111 superb as there did seem to be a few posts to back this up. I trust the garage and I wouldn't have taken my car there if I didn't trust them, plus it's not difficult to see the discs and pads through the alloys so not in their interest to lie.

5 months on from my original post about front brakes...my rear brakes now need replaced after only 17000 miles - severely NOT loving my Superb Elegance!

I would suggest the dealer is taking you for a mug. You just need to suck it up as these fancy showrooms with miserable and unhelpful staff need paying for otherwise take the worn brakes under advisement and go see and independent garage who will probably tell you there is nothing wrong with them. 

Sadly, I can feel the rear brakes 'shuddering'.

Most likely resin deposits off the pads that can be removed

I'll have a local garage check it out, many thanks.

You may be able to do this yourself by building some heat into the brakes by doing a serious (3 or 4) of increasingly hard braking until you are stamping on the brakes as if you're doing an emergency stop . Of course you need to do this in safety so a quiet road is best place to do it. 

You say that you can feel this brakes shuddering is this through the steering or your seat?

Through the seat.

Fronts are normally felt through the steering wheel and rear through the seat. I was only asking as it warping the rear discs or resin build up is usually on the fronts due to the heat they produce compared to the rears.