For fast flowing traffic or junction there is 'off' for the Stop / Start obviously,

or just increase the heating for a quick inhibit of it, or put on the A/C.

 

If you only have a few such locations then it is no big deal to kill Stop / Start then, or if the journey is going to be having lots of need, 'Off' as required.

Personally i kill the radio at junctions and fast flow roundabouts so killing Stop / Start is just something else that becomes natural when needed.

Thanks, that's helpful. I think it basically comes down to me being in control of the car, not the other way round. After 3000+ miles from new in a little over 2 months, we are still coming to terms with a few things. Most we like. Some, like this... the jury's still out. 

 

 

On ‎22‎/‎05‎/‎2017 at 08:41, Fin69 said:

Yup! Even more so if they are LED, which are now becoming the norm.

 

On a number of recent night journeys in stop/start traffic the vast  majority of drivers were sitting with their foot on the brake, which resulted in me experiencing a mild form of 'lens flare'. 

 

Even the LED rear lights can be annoying, even if the car is well ahead. Can't really describe it, but the lights seem to fluctuate/blink as the car in front moves around.

 

Obviously, with regards to brake lights it never used to be the problem if folks kept their foot on the brake as the lights were so much dimmer. It's good that they are brighter nowadays, but do they need to be so bright?

 

Perhaps they will go the way of LED headlights and be adaptive to ambient light levels and vehicles around them? That would be far more useful than some of the dubious value specifications/extras on cars nowadays.  

Edited 24 May, 20179 yr by VAGCF

First day of DSG/Stop Start ownership and am barely aware of stop/start. WQorks unobtrusively and I'm not sure whether I have ever been in such a rush as to care about the delay people find so affecting. 

17 hours ago, VAGCF said:

Even the LED rear lights can be annoying, even if the car is well ahead. Can't really describe it, but the lights seem to fluctuate/blink as the car in front moves around..  

 

This annoys me too.  It is because of the way LED brightness is modulated.  With a regular bulb you simply add more volts or add more filaments to make them brighter.  With LEDs that operate at two different brightness levels (e.g. tail and stop lights) they lower the brightness by providing a pulsed power to them (i.e. on-off-on-off-on-off very quickly).  The frequency of this flickering is supposed to be higher than the eye can determine but as the light source moves around in your vision you can sometimes pick up the individual flickers (or I can at least, as it seems can you).  For brighter brake lights, they simply provide a continuous feed to the LED and it runs at its full brightness.  Some cars are worse than others and I find them quite distracting.

Glad it isn't just me that notices the "flicker"!

Nor me!

 

Thanks for the explanation Weasley.

On 5/23/2017 at 18:59, FurryFriend said:

I don't like the short interval it takes to start the car again. On a roundabout with fast moving traffic flow, it's the last thing I need. 

It's badly thought out, and just a gimmick as far as my wife and I are concerned. We turn it off 99% of the time. 

There you go, unlike many things in life it gives YOU the choice.

 

Fred

 

Better it wasn't there in the first place imho Fred 

Pretty sure it can be fully disabled, with VCDS. If you're sure you'll never want to use it.

 

I've certainly seen this process done with other start:stop equipped Skodas.

3 hours ago, Wardy said:

Pretty sure it can be fully disabled, with VCDS.

 

It probably can be, but I then would worry about warranty issues.

 

For the sake of a single press of a button during start-up, I would rather leave well alone.

There is no issues having the Stop / Start inhibited.

You are not using none Factory Approved Parts or anything, just the system the Factory Installed and you purchased.

 

Main Dealers are known to turn it off when there are issues / faults with stop start while saying, the Factory is looking for solutions.

On 20/05/2017 at 14:41, Expatman said:

Interesting as this is the opposite of the advice I got! Will have to try and find some definitive answer to this as clearly it is easier to hold on light braking to prevent the stop/start engaging when needed - like waiting to enter a busy roundabout. At the moment I tend to switch off the stop/start nearing roundabouts.

 

I've not (yet) got the hang of the 'light braking' required to prevent stop-start from engaging.  What I have found is that a quick blip off and back on to the brake pedal - at any pressure - will restart the engine and leave it running.  Because the engine's off when you lift your foot, the car doesn't move, then by the time the engine's restarted you're already back on the brake.  I use this quite a lot if I have to come to a halt before entering a roundabout as it's much easier than fumbling for the switch, and eliminates the stop-start lag which can otherwise make joining a busy roundabout a bit of a lottery.

..had my Yeti for 4 months now (2 years old), and I have never known the "stop/start" to actually "stop"??? (which I prefer), ....is it just me???

If you have the brake pedal under firm pressure, just a slight release of that restarts the engine, not even enough to actually release the brakes or turn off the brake lights.

However I find it easy to turn the sytem on and off as appropriate to the type of driving at that time, without even having to look at the switch.

As above off when walting to go at a roundabout, or pulling out of a junction, or the slight brake release to restart engine whilst awaiting a gap.

3 minutes ago, Stubod said:

..had my Yeti for 4 months now (2 years old), and I have never known the "stop/start" to actually "stop"??? (which I prefer), ....is it just me???

Its just you, mine will often stop at the next juntion even if the car has just been started from cold.

The only times it doesnt stop start is if electrical loads are high, air conditioning pump needs to tun, or possibly heat needed in winter, or doing a regen

You do have a dsg though Standard car keeps running if clutch is down. Needs to be in neutral handbrake on and clutch released to stop.

Edited 2 July, 20188 yr by kenfowler3966

After a year plus of ownership in which I have tried the car with and without the stop start system active I now generally switch stop/start off as second nature when I start the engine. There is an inevitable delay at junctions with stop/start and while it is possible to fool it by only a light touch on the brake I am not sure that does the DSG any good - basically by holding the car on a light touch of the brakes you are slipping the clutch pack. It also offends my mechanical sympathy having the engine stopping and starting every few seconds when in stop-start traffic, I would rather switch off manually if in long stopped traffic then restart when the traffic clears.

I know the engine continually stopping and starting doesn't bother many people but it does me - hence my reason for switching off the stop start system when starting the engine. The best bit is that I couldn't detect an iota of difference in fuel consumption with the stop start active or turned off, and I have monitored fuel consumption on a brim full to brim full basis since new. After 12,500 miles the average is 44.65MPG (1.2 Tsi DSG) which I am quite happy with. 

Edited 2 July, 20188 yr by Expatman

Stop start was invented mainly for the emissions test which has significant periods when the vehicle is stationary. If the engine stops during this stationary pause, it reduces emmisions a lot over the whole test done with the engine running all the time.

 

It may not help fuel consumption, but must reduce emmisions in busy areas with near stationary traffic, so is very useful when you are going from traffic light to light and waiting at each; much less useful in crawling traffic when I also turn mine off out of sypathy for the starter motor. As it is so easy to turn on and off as needed that seems best to me and just select what is appropriate to the conditions, such as pulling out of a dodgy junction or turning right in middle of road.

Perhaps DSG cars don't work so well with stop/start. My manual 1.4 Petrol starts the engine quicker than I can depress the clutch enough to engage first gear, so it is completely seamless in operation in stop start situations. If I leave the car in gear the engine does not cut out, so its only if I am stopped long enough to put the car into neutral that the engine will cut out. I like it because you don't need to think about cutting fuel / fumes in queuing traffic, just drop into neutral which I would do anyway.

Totally agree.

Stop start on previous manual Greenline worked perfectly and engine was always running when preparing to pull away.

In current dsg it is a bit slow at times; Worst fault is if you stop at a junction and find a gap straight away there can be a significant pause before engine restarts. Hence if at that sort of situation I just turn it off before I get there. Simple enough. In a manual car my left hand would be changing gear but now available to push the button.

..this seems to sum up the main reason we all have to put up with something we probably don't really want..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k159M8QhCIE

 

 

..I think I will start making inquiries as to how to permanently disable the damn thing....

Edited 4 July, 20188 yr by Stubod

3 hours ago, Stubod said:

..this seems to sum up the main reason we all have to put up with something I probably don't really want..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k159M8QhCIE

 

 

..I think I will start making inquiries as to how to permanently disable the damn thing....

 

Corrected that for you, as I am perfectly happy with the stop/start system on my Yeti.

+1 I am happy with mine too

I hate it, it's caught me out a few times on a big junction on a hill on my commute. I know its got a fancy battery and starter motor... And it's proven design BUT I'm old skool it can't be good for the car lol

Why can't it be good for the car?

The car has systems and equipment designed to cope with it.