20 minutes ago, JaamesVRS said:

So it's worth a go? Or at least a look? 

 

I guess, £2k is a bit strong for a 12-year old, but it'll be cheaper to run and a lot safer than that French tinfoil biscuit tin, TU5J4 is such a great engine but the mapping sounds TERRIBLE if you're only getting 15MPG, with a standalone, ITB's and a wideband you should get more power and 25MPG.

2 hours ago, JaamesVRS said:

So it's worth a go? Or at least a look? 

 

Yeah, definitely worth a look.

6 hours ago, sepulchrave said:

 

I guess, £2k is a bit strong for a 12-year old, but it'll be cheaper to run and a lot safer than that French tinfoil biscuit tin, TU5J4 is such a great engine but the mapping sounds TERRIBLE if you're only getting 15MPG, with a standalone, ITB's and a wideband you should get more power and 25MPG.

Short journeys are the killer mate, I drive 6 mile round trip to and from work, and it just drinks! But it's uncomfortable now for the road and the roads are so bad it's ruining everything; 2k is a bit strong correct I will try and drag him down on the price or walk away especially with that mileage but it's got all the mods etc that I will be wanting to do to it in the future so in reality saves me money in the long run! 

He's told me the wheel bearing needs replacing aswell as sump plug as weeping.. not too much of an issue but realistically how much should I pay for this car? 2k is bloody high .. mods don't add value etc 

7 minutes ago, JaamesVRS said:

He's told me the wheel bearing needs replacing aswell as sump plug as weeping.. not too much of an issue but realistically how much should I pay for this car? 2k is bloody high .. mods don't add value etc 

 

Having read through this thread all in one go I draw the conclusion you are fishing for someone to tell you it's not really worth looking at, too high mileage, various issues require sorting and it's overpriced 

 

so here you go 

 

 Don't bother it's over priced has declared issues, high on the miles and let's be honest you don't mod a car like that and then drive it like a nun !! It's most likely been ragged stupid

 

far better to buy an unmolested original example run it as is then mod it as you require, being realistic most Vrs's are over 10 years old, nothing Skoda have done since has the same profil so good ones are going to be like rocking horse poo

 

There 

hope that helps !!

Not what I'm looking for at all; I'm looking for genuine advice. Obviously I'll be parting with the best part of 2k for a high mileage VRS, the reason I posted was to see how these engines fair with high miles.

 

i was looking at spending 2k on a VRS but it's purely a daily which I will modify; the parts this car has on it I would like to do if I bought a standard example obviously costing me alot of money that I want to be putting onto the track car opposed to the daily. The only thing I probably would change about this particular fabia engine wise would be a larger turbo apart from that everything else has already been done.

 

i didn't want to jump the gun and spend 2k for a car whos engine that lasts 200k before serious issues are prone to happen, I'm merely stabbing in the dark with these cars as I know literally nothing about them, hence why I came over for the advice on here. 

 

It's good to get feedback from more experienced owners of these cars instead of jumping the gun and buying a 3 legged racehorse and have a better idea of what I'm getting. Like I said I will need to look at the car in person to make a judgement based upon seeing the car in the flesh and trying to knock him down which obviously I will be doing. 

 

dont get me wrong I really want the car, just the mileage threw me off a tad! 

 

If im honest no "hot hatch" top of the line variety will of been driven carefully. My GTi for example, it lives in the redline on the track, I rebuilt the engine over xmas period as it decided 30psi of compression was the way to go and chopped and change every part on the car since I have owned it back in Jan 2014. It seems these PD130 engines are bulletproof to a sense. 

 

Last thing I want to do is buy a standard example, get it mapped (probably one of the first things I do) then have to part with a huge amount to replace the clutch if it starts slipping due to the extra torque etc - after having 8 boxes and 9 clutches over 3 years in the GTi it's fair to say I've had enough of changing them lol. Anyone who's familiar with the MA gearboxes they are made of chocolate and tend to go bang quite frequently. 

 

 

Sorry about the essay but I'm not after anyone to put me off as such but more to put my mind at rest before parting with 2k and someone says jeez your brave 180k miles etc etc

Edited 22 May, 20179 yr by JaamesVRS

How long has the current keeper had the car, is their name on the V5?

If everyone was Derren Brown they would be sorted, you have to take chances sometimes, or walk away.

Edited 22 May, 20179 yr by Awayoffski

Hi   Jaamesvrs, don't worry about the essay it's given me and everyone else who happen along with well meant advice an insight of your school of thought and what you are looking for

as Awayoffski comments sometimes you have to take a chance, if the seller has owned the car for a while then the right person to ask the question too would be him, if the seller isn't the long term owner I'd have a nagging feeling in my guts I'm sure you know what I mean

Edited 22 May, 20179 yr by davidwhite

Yeah I understand what you mean, he has owned the car for the past year and half, he's had a baby so bought an Audi A4 B7 for more room and a bit of an "upgrade" he was running the GTB2269VKLR turbo (think that's what it was called) for a few weeks then decided he wanted the A4. If I post the spec list on here would you guys comment if 2k is worth paying or give me a guide line on what I should aim to pay? 

 

Spec:

Fabia vrs
No swaps!!
£2000 if gone by next Friday!!
Golf mk4 leather interior
S3 cooler
Darkside hard pipes
3 bar boost gauge
Egr delete
New style badges 
Flashing middle rear brake light resistor
Vrs floor matts
Cupra r splitter
Team heko wind deflectors
Mk4 golf colour coded handles
Ramair filter
Fk track coilovers with new top mounts all round
Seat sport strut brace l
Team dynamic pro race 1.2 5x100
2.5" miltek exhaust 
2.5"Miltek decat pipe 
No boxes
Coo's well!
Sounds the nuts
Replaced turbo last week as took gtb vklr off
Serviced by myself last week
Soots well but no white or blue smoke at all!
Car has been well maintained
Mapped to 189 Bhp with proper banging hard cut limiter 
Helix paddle clutch and single mass flywheel rates to 550foot pounds fitted 3 weeks ago
Twin torque map, torque re peaks at 3k revs so constant power through the gears
180k full skoda service history
RS bonnet grills
Bumper canards 
Bumper quick release
PD150 headbolts
Under seat subwoofer
Aftermarket stereo
Will come with spare genuine new injector loom and crankshaft sensor
Will come on av55 vln number plates
2500 ono 
Will take 2000 if gone by next weekend
Sold as seen! No messers

 

 

 

Well if I was buying a VRS and the person said to me "banging hard cut", "soots well" and "twin torque map" I would laugh and walk away.

 

soots well = smokes real bad....bad remap

 

Twin torque map = bad remap

 

banging hard cut = chav abuse

 

IF he has the loom and crank sensor why not fit them and fix the miss fire? sounds like he knows they are not the problem and they are just a smoke screen. 

That's a VERY long list of mostly pointless/crap mods.

 

189 BHP, Jeez a bog standard one makes nearly that with a good map.

 

I wouldn't buy it unless it were £1500.

 

 

 

I know exactly what you mean which is why I've posted on here.. 

 

i asked him him about the banging hard cut, as it sounds chavvy he sent a video and it's the banging From the exhaust as it hits the hard cut, it's quite a loud hard cut limiter. It was mapped by derv tec, I thought they offered decent maps? The only thing I'm worried about is buying a standard example getting it mapped to like 189 like this car is and the clutch starts slipping where as with the helix this car has fitted 3 weeks ago I know I'll have no bother, how do the standard clutches fair up against remaps? What's the max BHP I could get out the standard clutch without issues? Say I went for hybrid in the future etc? 

 

I dis think that about the loom and crank sensor like why did he buy them but not put them on the car? Why are they included.. but tonne honest I do overthink things my old man has drummed that into me!..  is 190bhp the sort of max your get out the standard turbo with a map then? 

 

Looking on ebay all the black Fabias are around the 2k+ mark with the odd exception as standard form.. hard decision 

Edited 22 May, 20179 yr by JaamesVRS

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Flashing middle rear brake light resistor

 

^ What's this for?

Realistically, 175 BHP is it, but mapping firms tell lies and claim more to make sales (shocking, I know right).

 

That paddle clutch is undoubtedly expensive and is REALLY overkill, I suspect he threw a big turbo at it and couldn't make it work so put it back standard-ish to flog it. We've had a few on here that threw GTB2260's at them and vanished down a rabbit hole of unreliability and endless spending, a few guys persevered and made close to 300 BHP but not for long, most of these engines ended up blowing pistons due to uncontrollable cylinder pressures and hot spots.

1 minute ago, TMB said:

 

^ What's this for?

 

It's like a flux capacitor for retards.

Just now, sepulchrave said:

 

It's like a flux capacitor for retards.

 

That's correct he did have a big turbo on it, he said it was GTB2269 VKLR for the last 8k miles but took it off as the turbo is going on his Audi, I have no idea what the flashing brake resistor is for I did think the exact same 

 

So the standard clutch; what can that happily take without slipping and too much stress? A remap? Hybrid turbo + map? Or is a remap your sort of limit for the standard clutch/DMF?

 

 

Edited 22 May, 20179 yr by JaamesVRS

Did the oil change himself and cross threaded the sump plug...

Surely all these mods will add quite a bit to the insurance?

Is that common on these then is it? Will it be the plug that's cross threaded or the sump? If it's the plug not too much of an issue as I can replace for a couple of quid but don't fancy retapping the sump and risk getting swarf in the sump 

Just now, TMB said:

Surely all these mods will add quite a bit to the insurance?

 

Not too bad actually ... Company's like flux/sky etc are pretty reasonable with all the mods sometimes works out cheaper than a standard example if you look for a modified car insurer! 

 

The 106 is exactly the same I pay 700 a year; 7 years NCB and 7 years held, however they are expensive to insure as there's a GTi badge on the car 

Just now, JaamesVRS said:

 

Not too bad actually ... Company's like flux/sky etc are pretty reasonable with all the mods sometimes works out cheaper than a standard example if you look for a modified car insurer! 

 

The 106 is exactly the same I pay 700 a year; 7 years NCB and 7 years held, however they are expensive to insure as there's a GTi badge on the car 

 

Oh right

31 minutes ago, JaamesVRS said:

That's correct he did have a big turbo on it, he said it was GTB2269 VKLR for the last 8k miles but took it off as the turbo is going on his Audi, I have no idea what the flashing brake resistor is for I did think the exact same 

 

So the standard clutch; what can that happily take without slipping and too much stress? A remap? Hybrid turbo + map? Or is a remap your sort of limit for the standard clutch/DMF?

 

 

 

So that'll be the ball bearing VNT, it's a GTB2260 VKLR with a 69mm billet compressor wheel and there's NO WAY it would have worked properly without bigger injectors, gasflowed head, high lift cam etc.

 

Not on a 1.9 PD that's for damn sure.

 

Swerve it, sellers a dork.

22 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

 

So that'll be the ball bearing VNT, it's a GTB2260 VKLR with a 69mm billet compressor wheel and there's NO WAY it would have worked properly without bigger injectors, gasflowed head, high lift cam etc.

 

Not on a 1.9 PD that's for damn sure.

 

Swerve it, sellers a dork.

I might offer him low money 1300-1500 and see what he says, if not walk... worse comes to worse could easily make my money back on parts 

 

but 2k is steap considering!

 

yeah that's the one vklr are ball bearing that's what he said, he did defiantly have the nozzles and stuff but recently sold them as I saw him selling them on his Facebook page! The head etc I'm not so sure about! 

 

Shame as it ticks all the boxes in what I want spec wise the correct wheels and the look of the car is exactly what I want my fabia to look like.. just one already done saves a lot of time and most importantly money!

 

2 minutes ago, JaamesVRS said:

I might offer him low money 1300-1500 and see what he says, if not walk... worse comes to worse could easily make my money back on parts 

 

but 2k is steap considering!

 

yeah that's the one vklr are ball bearing that's what he said, he did defiantly have the nozzles and stuff but recently sold them as I saw him selling them on his Facebook page! The head etc I'm not so sure about! 

 

Shame as it ticks all the boxes in what I want spec wise the correct wheels and the look of the car is exactly what I want my fabia to look like.. just one already done saves a lot of time and most importantly money!

 

 

You need to drive it to make sure it's ok, a turbo that big may well have blown the head gasket even with PD150 bolts, it could also have cracked a piston, we've seen that quite a few times on here as well, car is still driveable but develops a mystery misfire, bloke might have bought the loom/sensor to fix it then realised the engines toast, whipped off the big turbo and chucked it up for sale...