To answer your main question, 180k is fine. Nothing to worry about on these engines provided they have been looked after. The idle should be smooth when cold too so may be worth further investigation.

So the idle being lumpy when cold could be internal engine damage? Ideally like you said needs to be driven.. what sort of things am I looking/listening for? As I don't want to buy a paperweight!! Looks visually smart though! But that means nothing. I know He's done all the work himself it was a standard example when he bought it.. Facebook trawling 

Edited 22 May, 20179 yr by JaamesVRS

Squeeze the coolant pipes when the engines stone cold to make sure there's no pressure in the system and pop the coolant tank cap, any hiss when cold means headlift and a blown gasket, then start the engine and listen to the top end, it should quieten down quickly and tick over evenly, take the car for a drive and drive it hard in the higher gears, then pull over, leave it running and look for any signs of coolant leaking from the expansion tank, again it should tick over evenly and quietly.

 

Any problems mean you should run a mile.

Thankyou sepulchrave

 

ill most definitely make sure I do that!! 

 

Anything else i should be looking looking out for? I'm new to world of diesel but is it possible to see mayo under the oil cap like the petrols when the head gasket is going? May seem like a silly question but I want to check 11 points out of 10 to make sure I'm not buying a dog! To be honest I have seen by his Facebook he's replaced quite a few parts on the car for genuine parts.. E.G genuine Skoda lower arms/bushes etc which is nice to see, I believe the VRS' do have problems with the P Bush but he's replaced them with genuine items which is always good.. most people settle for pattern parts and not OEM parts which is always a plus to see!

 

 

To the guy who said about having the high lift cam etc for the turbo.. after further investigation it does seem like he had the lot! So looks like no expense was actually spared for the big turbo ... found photos of manifold, inlet, cams etc. So looks like he done the job fairly properly, if I'm honest I've been friends with him on Facebook for some time and haven't seen him venting about the Skoda causing issues etc ever! So could genuinely be because he has bought the A4 he wants rid, hopefully that's the case anyway! 

 

He managed to get sponsored by a company fairly local called Tune Automotive who done all the work on the car, which leads me to believe it should of been fairly looked after through it's life as if it's one of their cars they would want the car done properly to showcase it, if you get what I mean?

 

Edited 23 May, 20179 yr by JaamesVRS

Which was me as well.

 

So that car has been running 300+ BHP for 8 months on that big turbo, be very careful, the engines become super unreliable at those power levels, like I said, the pistons crack and gaskets blow.

9 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

Which was me as well.

 

So that car has been running 300+ BHP for 8 months on that big turbo, be very careful, the engines become super unreliable at those power levels, like I said, the pistons crack and gaskets blow.

Sorry mate your right, my mistake! Should check before I post 

 

yes thats very true... is there any way of noticing a cracked piston etc without tearing the engine apart? Any tell tale signs etc? As for the head gasket I will do what you said regarding the pipe squeeze and filler cap! 

17 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

Which was me as well.

 

So that car has been running 300+ BHP for 8 months on that big turbo, be very careful, the engines become super unreliable at those power levels, like I said, the pistons crack and gaskets blow.

he's just come back to me saying the FSH is covered upto 170k miles which is a good thing I guess meaning for 170k it's been relatively looked after! 

Looking at the MOT's it was doing 20,000 miles plus a year as it needed to to get to that mileage.

Who cares really about the first 170,00 miles, little old man or woman using it as a motorway muncher, care and cherished and serviced in some crap main dealership.

 

The last 10,000 miles of use, or the last 100 miles is much more important.

?

Are you buying it or not?

This is what I'm trying to come to the conclusion over.. he reckons someone is coming to look at it tomorrow for 2200.. this will certainly tell as if he walks away most likely I would too! I'm waiting for my tax rebate to be paid in this week for the car hence why I haven't got it yet, was only going to to look at the car once the money is in my pocket opposed to looking/wanting not having the money and potentially loosing. If it's a dog walk away, simple as. 

 

The comments about the VKLR worrys me as could potentially have internal engine damage .. if I know the engine is sound I will buy the car, but I'm trying to get as much knowledge as possible so I'm armed when I go look at it. So from the people on here, 2k is too high yes? Aim for around 1500 if everything is okay? 

I have read through this and my gut would tell me this is potentially had a hard life in the last 12 months, been messed too much and as Sep said it may have been stressed with big power which 12,000 miles at big power is more stress on the engine than its life up to that with all those miles ( I imagine )

 

That aside £1300 -£1500, leaves a bit of cash for an engine!  

 

Be real careful with this one bud. 

 

But the consensus is its too unknown and possibly thrashed. But if you keep a bit of spare cash ( or lots ) for repairs then why not.   Best of luck buddy

 

 

 

 

Edited 23 May, 20179 yr by Graffiti

JaamesVRS

 

Until you stand in front of the car and equally important the seller this really is an exercise in if but and maybes

 

I've checked on flea bay there does seem to be a fair few Vrs Fabias on the market and if you scroll through the option of completed sales it should give you an idea of what's available for your money

 

as you say if the car is still for sale when you have cash in your pocket you will then be asking yourself WHY ? you are in a kind of no win situation 

 

there red is one car on flea bay at the moment ( near Leicester ) which looks clean and tidy and the seller has been totally upfront with what needs doing got to be worth a read up at the very least

I wouldn't touch it personally.

54 minutes ago, broguer said:

I wouldn't touch it personally.

 

Which one  ?

 

the one with180k or the one near Leicester ?

 

mind you with what you just dropped into I think I know the answer ( neither )

 

( see thread Nick H's sherbet Vrs just proves what is out there just requires a lot of patience )

Edited 23 May, 20179 yr by davidwhite

48 minutes ago, davidwhite said:

 

Which one  ?

 

the one with180k or the one near Leicester ?

 

mind you with what you just dropped into I think I know the answer ( neither )

 

( see thread Nick H's sherbet Vrs just proves what is out there just requires a lot of patience )

 

 

 

Neither. Yes. I'd opt for a standard to near standard car with all the history etc and paperwork. Ensure the basics are perfect, and then if you want to modify, modify away. I know that can be an expensive option when purchasing a car with it already done, but it really does need to be immaculate even if modified i think.

And thanks again David.

 

Nick

Edited 23 May, 20179 yr by broguer

Thanks for your kind words guys!

 

yeah that's what I'm waiting for.. see if the guy takes it could end up a blessing in disguise if he does or doesn't. The visual side of the car is what's really drawing me in as it looks really smart! 

 

I'm fussy! I've currently got a red car and it winds the s#@t out of me.. lacquer peel is the worst! Ideally I'm afte black, the Mrs has a 220bhp R53 JCW Mini Cooper S with the Aero kit but she's gone for the stealth black on black look and when it's clean it's very very smart, best colour IMO... which obviously reflects on the price!! 

 

Seems the black ones (with exception of the LE Blue) fetch the most money

 

i know buying a modified car is usually a no go, I sort of know the fella he was part of a car club I'm a part of for a while, would hope he wouldn't rip me off which makes life a bit easier knowing the guy, all the black ones on the market seem to be around the 2k+ mark and most around the 150k miles mark too, if I was buying a standard example I wouldn't want to spend that much so I got some spare cash for mods 

Rebate has arrived... VRS time!! Shame there's none standing out to me apart from this one!

 

what would people offer for this car if they was in the situation.. now the big turbo comments are worrying me lol 

 

however it was was run on low boost with injectors for correct fueling etc 

Edited 23 May, 20179 yr by JaamesVRS

1 minute ago, JaamesVRS said:

however it was was run on low boost with injectors for correct fueling etc 

 

Nonsense, a compressor that big would barely spool at all until 3000 RPM and when it did eventually spool it would be all or nothing. Probably why he took it off, much too big for a 1.9 PD, the muppet.

I think it was a 2260 not 2269.. never heard of anyone running a 2269 without a hell of a lot of work! And his budget isn't that high lol

 

 

hi ( again )

 

right first and foremost I know nothing about modding or go faster stripes street cred or anything along those lines so mechanically in this field I'm as much use as a chocolate fire guard 

however I've got plenty of years worth of logical thought process under my belt

 

if you wish to purchase the car on looks and the extra mods that you would add to another example then why don't you value the car on that basis, assuming the overall stance of the car is straight question as to why the extreme mods have been removed as let's be honest if the car ran fine with them still fitted it would be worth more ??

so budget for a engine re-build poss clutch and gearbox replacement and the ' looks ' of this car end up as it realistic value

you say a guy is viewing with the intention of paying £2200 if he buys it you've lost out and it wasn't to be 

on the other hand if he doesn't the $64000 question is WHY ?? in the real world I can't see any Tom **** Or Harry viewing a car modded like this one so either this viewer didn't like what he saw or didn't actually show

 

( I've never driven a Vrs even in standard guise let alone a car like your saxo or this particular Vrs, I have driven my wife's bog standard 1.9tdi close to its limit or more relevant MY limit so I can honestly see the attraction of a souped up Vrs version, not sure I'd ever drive it anywhere near its potential or keep my licence long enough to enjoy it though )

 

Long and short of this £1250 cash leaves you with ' mend it money ' if it ain't broke lifes good if it needs work at least you have funds to sort it out

 

Good luck 

29 minutes ago, JaamesVRS said:

I think it was a 2260 not 2269.. never heard of anyone running a 2269 without a hell of a lot of work! And his budget isn't that high lol

 

 

 

You were the one who said it was a GTB2269 VKLR, yes it's a 2260 but you can fit a 69mm billet compressor wheel or use the unit from a Merc which comes with one as standard.

 

It is very unusual to use a VKLR on a VRS unless using an oversize compressor wheel and hoping it spools a bit earlier due to the ball bearings. We should know since all the most heavily modded VRS's are members here.

 

I don't want an argument, if this is more info than you need and you're just looking for groupthink to tell you to go buy it then look elsewhere, on here we're really savvy, not chavvy. Good luck.

Oh no I understand exactly what your both saying! I attend a lot of car shows throughout the year. The VRS will be a daily/show car where as the 106 is built for purpose ... all 10k I've chucked into it are for a reason, however to get the VRS to the level I want I will be spending quite a lot which isn't too much of an issue as will mainly be visual mods with the odd power increase just so I don't downgrade too much power wise from the 106, as even stage 1 fabias I do leave standing, so at standard form I can imagine myself getting very bored very quick.. the reason I say about the 2260 the short time I knew the fella he did tend to exaggerate or porky quite a bit.. which I completely forgot about until I got reminded 

 

think I am going to leave it purely because the guy coming to look at it tomorrow is gonna go two ways, if he shows and takes it, car is gone, if he shows and doesn't take it, why didn't he take it?..

 

"Standard" VRS is fine although I would really like one that's been mapped as it saves a bit more money!  

Edited 23 May, 20179 yr by JaamesVRS

41 minutes ago, JaamesVRS said:

 

 

think I am going to leave it purely because the guy coming to look at it tomorrow is gonna go two ways, if he shows and takes it, car is gone, if he shows and doesn't take it, why didn't he take it?..

 

"Standard" VRS is fine although I would really like one that's been mapped as it saves a bit more money!  

 

Your first point is exactly what I was alluding too

 

as a non educated modding no nothing I'd have thought wouldn't someone as serious as you be better of starting with a standard Vrs then how or whatever you have done to the car wil be within the limits of the car and done, by the sounds of your posts, correctly and more importantly " bedded in " properly and wouldn't someone selling a modded car try to get at least a % of their outlay back making a modded car dearer in the first place

Edited 23 May, 20179 yr by davidwhite

Yeah mods don't add value; if I ever sold the 106 (never would now) then I would split it to make the money back.. opposed to trying to sell as a whole. Like I said apart from the shell the car is no longer a 106 really. 

 

I would like to go from scratch but it's the cost more than anything on a daily 

The car sold today for 2200!! Surprised me to be honest! Now onto the next one!