Hi folks, 

i could do with your opinions here.  I've got a vRS Special Edition, which i've owned for the last 8 years.  I've loved every minute of owning it, but recently, possibly due to its age and mileage, it's turned into a bit of a money pit.  What with the announcement of VW's scrappage scheme, i'm toying with the idea of putting it towards a Golf GTD estate.  

 

Morally, i'm in a dilemma though.  Surely this limited edition car is too good to simply consign to the scrap heap?  Or am I just being daft? I know my car's not worth £4,000, which is what the scrappage allowance would be, but what a  waste of a good car (despite its recent need for repairs).   I mean, it's only done 100k miles - the engine's barely been run in!  

 

If I do take the plunge, I was toying with the idea of stripping out as many parts of it and selling them on to ensure its spirit lives on, but it's a pain that the car has to be driven to the dealer cos i'd have taken its youthful engine out.  The seats, which are unmarked and barely show any sign of wear, are easy enough to take out though, so hopefully they'll find a good home with someone on this forum.

 

What are your thoughts?  I expect that this won't be the only decent car that will undeservedly meet the crusher through this scrappage scheme.

If you're part exchanging you could sell your seats and take theirs in return for lower price. It all depends on how much you can get and the hassle factor of selling the parts etc. Cost to benefit ratio and all that. Depending on what has needed to be done because generally it shouldn't have needed much doing to it, as you say it's hardly done any miles.

 

Oh and VW will just put it out to auction and make some money back. This scrappage scheme probably gets some sort of government contribution so don't feel too sorry for VW.

I thought VW might try and get some extra cash out of it by selling it on, but from their T&C's:

"All qualifying vehicles that are traded in will be permanently taken off the road and scrapped. T&Cs apply, contact your local Volkswagen retailer. Finance subject to status. Indemnities may be required. Volkswagen Financial Services."

 

I think they've already made enough money from unfairly gaining from their diesel defeat device scandal!

 

 

 

As for part ex-ing and taking someone else's seats in return, I reckon they'd only offer me around £2000 for my car, if that.  It's not in the first flush of youth after all as the bodywork isn't in its prime - think of rust spots on the rear wheelarches that are beyond economic repair and you get the idea.  As leather vRS seats (both non- and special edition ones) tend to sell for around £600-800, this would on top of the £4000 scrappage allowance, meaning the equity in the car is £4,600-4,800 if i put it towards the scrappage scheme.  

 

Good discounts are to be had to the GTD estate too - £21,904 according to DtD which includes the scrappage allowance.

 

Just buy a cheapo diesel car and scrap that instead as long as you comply with the T&C's, then you can keep the SE and sell it privately.

Maybe someone can explain this ' scrapage scheme ' mentality in plain simple terms, 

 

ie who covers the ' discount ' on the purchased car

 

if it's the manufacture then why need a scraper to buy a car at what is obviously a still profitable price,

if the government are funding the discount allowance the essentially the tax payer is subsidising each qualifying car

 

what is the benifit of removing an ' old ' car from the road, it quite likely pays a higher rate of car tax, probably less economical so more revenue in fuel duties, vat on spares garage repair bills etc

 

If anyone says about carbon emissions ask how much will be produced destroying the remains of the car transporting it to be scraped and then onto landfill etc whilst other parts of the world chuck what ever they want into the environment 

 

too many any people with ologies and rose tinted glass sitting around in government employment with sweet FA to do 

 

" We're doomed I tell you doomed " 

 

Edited 1 September, 20178 yr by davidwhite

1 hour ago, sepulchrave said:

Just buy a cheapo diesel car and scrap that instead as long as you comply with the T&C's, then you can keep the SE and sell it privately.

You need to have owned the car for at least 6 months, unfortunately.  It's a good idea though. I'm kicking myself for not buying some £500 smoker beforehand and putting that towards it instead.  

37 minutes ago, davidwhite said:

Maybe someone can explain this ' scrapage scheme ' mentality in plain simple terms, 

 

ie who covers the ' discount ' on the purchased car

 

if it's the manufacture then why need a scraper to buy a car at what is obviously a still profitable price,

if the government are funding the discount allowance the essentially the tax payer is subsidising each qualifying car

 

what is the benifit of removing an ' old ' car from the road, it quite likely pays a higher rate of car tax, probably less economical so more revenue in fuel duties, vat on spares garage repair bills etc

 

If anyone says about carbon emissions ask how much will be produced destroying the remains of the car transporting it to be scraped and then onto landfill etc whilst other parts of the world chuck what ever they want into the environment 

 

too many any people with ologies and rose tinted glass sitting around in government employment with sweet FA to do 

 

" We're doomed I tell you doomed " 

 

I'm 99.9% confident that it's not government-backed as not all manufacturers are offering it and those that are are all operating their schemes differently.  

 

This leads me to think that it's funded by the manufacturer, which makes me think they rake in far too much profit normally to be able to offer £2, 3,..., 8k off a new car, on top of any discount offered by the dealer. 

 

The following article on Autocar's site Who will really benefit from the latest scrappage schemes? may give you some answers as to the benefits of the scheme. 

The current scrappage schemes do not involve any government funding. They are just funded by the car companies / dealers. Mainly due to car sales been down, and this makes them look greener in terms of giving the discount. 

 

And if you look at some of the schemes they do guarantee that the car will be scrapped.

If you are set on buying a brand new car anyway then go ahead and get the 4K discount.

 

But personally I would sell the car on for a fair price(webuyanycar it if you have to) and buy one that has a few thousand on it already. That way your not wasting a perfectly good car and you will be saving more than 4K, especially in terms of depreciation vs ordering a brand spanker.

 

Plus there's the added bonus of not lining the dealers pockets as that is all the scrappage scheme is there for

Edited 22 September, 20178 yr by SuperbTWM