my boot light wasnt working so i clicked out the "bulb"

there doesnt seem to be any wiring attached to it even though the contacts show something was connected to the "bulb" at one time..

i wonder if there is a something which would have been attached to it to "fire" the lamp and controlled by radio wave..like the central locking..and boot release lock especially..and when the boot lid was released the lamp came on???

 

 

 

 

this situation along with the funny little push button "switch" on the drivers door is making me wonder if they are related

(see the thread below..i originally put this in an old thread and its not getting the best viewing..)

 

cheers

geof

 

I think the connectors fallen/been pulled off. Fish around for it.

 

The interior and boot lights come on when the doors/boot are opened.

31 minutes ago, xman said:

I think the connectors fallen/been pulled off. Fish around for it.

 

The interior and boot lights come on when the doors/boot are opened.

 

i will...since the connector seems to be pointing up...i thought wiring would be from above

but its probably below...i did stick my fingers in as far as i could...its a tight space...all round and also took off the rear light cluster to see if there was some way to check there as well

i will get a piece of coat hanger or stiff electrical wire to fish around down the bottom of the cavity...

thanks again

cheers

geof

It will have been disconnected and they can be very temperamental. They have little electronic system in and can be a pain to get working again. The wiring is almost certainly down behind the plastic trim and I recon the previous owner gave up on it.

 

Don't use a wire coat hanger as you might spark out some fuses or something. Plastic cables like electricians use might help, just insulate the metal bit!

1 hour ago, mrgf said:

It will have been disconnected and they can be very temperamental. They have little electronic system in and can be a pain to get working again. The wiring is almost certainly down behind the plastic trim and I recon the previous owner gave up on it.

 

Don't use a wire coat hanger as you might spark out some fuses or something. Plastic cables like electricians use might help, just insulate the metal bit!

thanks

i was poking around with the earth wire...but could find nothing...whew..no sparks

then i tried a piece of neutral..blue..(hey what the hell does the colour matter..so techy)

still no luck...and the insulation was on the end

what i will do is take off the bit round the boot opening at the bottom...if its easy enough and see if i can ascertain a lead and reconnect it...will use caution as you suggest

if no luck...then i have a loft light which runs on batteries and is quite bright...i can fix it to the side of the boot

it has a pull cord...i have wired the loft for mains lighting now..so

it has been lying around for a year...

chears

geof..

 Didn't mean the colour of the wire you poke IN, this will make no difference just didn't want you to use an old wire hanger incase the metal hit live and shorted or fused the light... Have something safer or insulated. I have purchased a pair od LED lights for my car so when they arrive, I'll let you know if they are better then the boot and glovebox lights. They are meant to be plug and play, so to speak. My glovebox light failed to come on although the bulb was fine. I think its the lights internals but it just prompted me to buy the LEDs as I had already thought of replacing them anyway!

I think that mrcrow was using a bit of wit there, and as I and he should know, Scottish wit does not travel well?

2 hours ago, rum4mo said:

I think that mrcrow was using a bit of wit there, and as I and he should know, Scottish wit does not travel well?

 

whit?

9 minutes ago, mrcrow said:

 

whit?

 

Sorry, "an that" I just thought that something that you said in jest was being taken seriously, maybe it was me that picked it up wrong! Anyway, maybe my Scottish West coast version of wit has let me down - again?

 

Edit- I'll get back to reading yesterday's newspaper to try to keep out of trouble, wifie looks a bit cold out there working in the garden, so I'm probably in trouble there as well!

Edited 19 November, 20178 yr by rum4mo

4 hours ago, mrgf said:

 Didn't mean the colour of the wire you poke IN, this will make no difference just didn't want you to use an old wire hanger incase the metal hit live and shorted or fused the light... Have something safer or insulated. I have purchased a pair od LED lights for my car so when they arrive, I'll let you know if they are better then the boot and glovebox lights. They are meant to be plug and play, so to speak. My glovebox light failed to come on although the bulb was fine. I think its the lights internals but it just prompted me to buy the LEDs as I had already thought of replacing them anyway!

 

i couldnt get a result with any poking around and the bit across the boot opening at the bottom looks like its in for the duration...if i could get that out i hoped i would see a lead from the boot catch relaying power to the boot light...

at that stage i could perhaps go for some better lighting as you mentioned

on reflection i dont know if my glovebox is working either

do they make fabia's on a friday???

will need to check the bulb there...does the light in the glovebox just come on with the car lights...seems sensible equally with the boot light..

the boot light bulb connector was facing upwards...could it be the wire comes from above?

when i was poking down with the insulated cable i did get a "bite" but as i tried to pull it up there was so much resistance i let it be

a little periscope would be handy for this type of inspection..

keep me posted on the LED lights...i have put 10 in my living room in two rows of 5..daylight and they really are bright

cheers

geof

1 minute ago, rum4mo said:

 

Sorry, "an that" I just thought that something that you said in jest was being taken seriously, maybe it was me that picked it up wrong! Anyway, maybe my Scottish West coast version of wit has let me down - again?

thats just me being daft...no i got your meaning and was trying to play the fool

widjameenman..:D

over in bo'ness on the central to east coast the accent was pretty gorbals at times...most comedy stuff was in the glasgow jive...i did work there for 4 years and paisley before that

yes the thing about the cable was here am i explaining i used an insulated probe and thought the colour was relevant...so really i was being the daft one there

cheers

geof

Ha Ha, so all is well!  Anyway, some years ago, my wife bought me one of the first "domestic" flexible snake cameras, ie a very cheap poor quality attempt at a boroscope equivalent, sort of - I was quite impressed but it was a bit of nasty stuff I could not make anything out, a modern version of that might help you find your boot light lead - and as it near Christmas, what a "marvellous" suggestion for a present??  Personally I'd love to have one of these that worked well and I'd use it to ---????? - well I'd find a use, add taking a picture of the inside of the cylinders at every service, that would work - once, before I moved on to some thing else, that certainly worked when I bought a car battery condition tester last year - soon be time to check them all again!

 

I don't know what gets fitted to which Fabias, but if this car was bought second hand, maybe the first owner had some great ideas and wanted to add the correct boot light, so bought a second hand light assembly (that would explain the "used" marks on the contacts), cut a hole and fitted it - then thought, "sod the rest of this mod"?

Edited 19 November, 20178 yr by rum4mo

9 minutes ago, rum4mo said:

Ha Ha, so all is well!  Anyway, some years ago, my wife bought me one of the first "domestic" flexible snake cameras, ie a very cheap poor quality attempt at a boroscope equivalent, sort of - I was quite impressed but it was a bit of nasty stuff I could not make anything out, a modern version of that might help you find your boot light lead - and as it near Christmas, what a "marvellous" suggestion for a present??  Personally I'd love to have one of these that worked well and I'd use it to ---????? - well I'd find a use, add taking a picture of the inside of the cylinders at every service, that would work - once, before I moved on to some thing else, that certainly worked when I bought a car battery condition tester last year - soon be time to check them all again!

 

I don't know what gets fitted to which Fabias, but if this car was bought second hand, maybe the first owner had some great ideas and wanted to add the correct boot light, so bought a second hand light assembly (that would explain the "used" marks on the contacts), cut a hole and fitted it - then thought, "sod the rest of this mod"?

 

yes its second hand...one owner from new 2008 to 2017..

i think some hanky panky has been going on and the wire got snapped...will still do another search in an upwards direction

you know i am getting neurotic...i have two led torches in the boot..one which has a beam and the other is a bar type with a strip of leds and has a magnet to attach it to your bonnet when doing a spot of servicing etc...and a third...the old loflight which is led

all require batteries and today i checked and changed those that were under 1.0v...the batteries required are 1.5v

they are all in the boot now so i just need to find a way to fix the bar light to the opened boot lid..magnetically...a strip of metal i guess fixed to the trim...and then have one of each of the other two in each hand and i can then have a hollywood light show in the boot to see what is there

next requirement is someone to hold the torches so i can do the necessary in the boot

to finish...i have a head led which cyclists use and i use for diy which i could wear at all times saving using the boot lights

it would then be what skoda havent supplied...a universal car lighting system...

"aye ready" thats the word!!

FURTHER TO THE ABOVE

 

i checked out the glove compartment light..not working..bulb gone

managed to get it out...the whole thing...daft me i didnt know the bulb part pulled out

in the process managed to fuse the lighting for inside...buy one 7.5 fuse...and one bulb

my handbook tells me this light and the boot light should be the same bulb

as you can see the boot fitting seems to be of a different type and not the same as the glove compartment

you can see the differing connection prong sizes and pitch....

my feeling is that the boot has been changed and the connector rewired to suit the larger prong bulb..? is this an led one?

still cant find any wiring up inside though ...

so i at least can get the glove compartment working and...next time remove the fuse prior to mucking about

cheers

geof

ps pics i hope will show the situation clearly

Edited 19 November, 20178 yr by mrcrow
new photo

Hi, yeah very weird light and bulb combo... As mentioned, I have ordered LED fitments (Complete lamp) From China, a pair for around £8 so boot and glovebox hopefully LED'ed up soon. They will perhaps be more bright with less draw and less failure and fiddle! The whole lamp will plug in after removing the old one.

 

I saw you mentioning interior lamps, I have up front ones with replacement LED bulbs. Bright but a little strange illumination after dark when you first use them as the light seems a bit less natural. You get used to it though. Easy to prise the lamp holder out of the roof lining but just take your time and if you use tools, use plastic rather then metal as metal may damage the roof lining and also blow bulbs/fuses if carelessly applied!

 

My stingy Greenline model does not have rear lights in the cabin and although I have seen someone fit a rear light from another VAG car, I have not been brave enough to cut a hole in the roof lining in case I make a mistake! 

9 minutes ago, mrgf said:

Hi, yeah very weird light and bulb combo... As mentioned, I have ordered LED fitments (Complete lamp) From China, a pair for around £8 so boot and glovebox hopefully LED'ed up soon. They will perhaps be more bright with less draw and less failure and fiddle! The whole lamp will plug in after removing the old one.

 

I saw you mentioning interior lamps, I have up front ones with replacement LED bulbs. Bright but a little strange illumination after dark when you first use them as the light seems a bit less natural. You get used to it though. Easy to prise the lamp holder out of the roof lining but just take your time and if you use tools, use plastic rather then metal as metal may damage the roof lining and also blow bulbs/fuses if carelessly applied!

 

My stingy Greenline model does not have rear lights in the cabin and although I have seen someone fit a rear light from another VAG car, I have not been brave enough to cut a hole in the roof lining in case I make a mistake! 

yes that boot thing has thrown me....in mid step...i had some more digging and delving but no sign of a cable

i will rig up a battery light...led of course

thanks for mentioning the led effect...i changed over my living room ceiling rose type lighting for two rows of led downlighters...5 in a row...and chose the 4000 daylight G50 type..and did a bedroom overbed unit for reading...

i bought a set of ceiling cutters and the job was easy...i live in a bungalow so the wiring was easy as well

what i did notice was how bright they were...but now we are quite used to it...got them in the kitchen as well

i plan to phase out all my bulbs for  led...and have around 20 of the old type fluo bulbs in the garage and a few of the old incandescents..

i blew the fuse on the interior circuit taking out the old glove compartment lamp and have ordered a new one with a box of 20 fuses..mixed sizes 4 of each....so i will wait till i get all together before doing the reading lights in the car

it seems i need 1 42mm festoon and 4 or 5 of the 5W5...i will check whats there first...

then i think i will have a breather and drive the damn thing a bit!!!

cheers

geof

On 17/11/2017 at 20:00, mrcrow said:

 

i will...since the connector seems to be pointing up...i thought wiring would be from above

but its probably below...i did stick my fingers in as far as i could...its a tight space...all round and also took off the rear light cluster to see if there was some way to check there as well

i will get a piece of coat hanger or stiff electrical wire to fish around down the bottom of the cavity...

thanks again

cheers

geof

The wiring comes from near the wheel arch, so it comes from the side.  It will have fallen down and I doubt you will be able to reach it through the hole.  Taking the boot trim off is relatively quick with a set of trim tools and a torx set, but, you need to also remove the trim from behind the rear door pillar and the trim around the side window and the trim below the boot lock.

Quote:- My stingy Greenline model does not have rear lights in the cabin and although I have seen someone fit a rear light from another VAG car, I have not been brave enough to cut a hole in the roof lining in case I make a mistake! 

 

Well, I did better than that, I had a very nice Cav GSI 2000 16V 4X4 and I noticed that the later version, ie a Cav GSI Turbo 4X4, had rear side mounted interior lights, my Vauxhall dealer could not find the part number by as a Vauxhall Performance Car Club member (really good deal on RAC renewal and 15% discount on Vx parts so repaid the subscription easily), I could talk directly to Vauxhall and they found the part number for me, after taking many deep breathes I cut through the side of the head lining, then drilled a series of small holes and cut out a rectangular hole for the lights, got the wiring in and they worked fine, seem to remember even changing all the rear door switches from one pole to two pole and added diodes so that the interior lights worked as originally intended as that triggered the intruder alarm, but also turned the rear lights on when the rear doors were opened.

 

LED lights in the home, brilliant as long as you use 12V assemblies and supply them from line drivers to avoid flickering, any bulb with its built in voltage changer will fail after a couple of years generally due to these crappy cheap onboard voltage changers!

 

When we refurbished the ensuite bathroom, I fitted matching "cold" white LED lights to the shower extractor and the four spot bar - that was frightening at first  - so white!  A couple of years later the "spot" 230V AC LED bulbs failed one by one so I replaced them with "warm" ones, the 12V LED bulb in the shower extractor is fed with a quality line driver, 5 years on it is still okay, though maybe as time moves on and manufacturers improve designs, these domestic LED bulbs will have longer lifes.

On 11/24/2017 at 10:11, rum4mo said:

Quote:- My stingy Greenline model does not have rear lights in the cabin and although I have seen someone fit a rear light from another VAG car, I have not been brave enough to cut a hole in the roof lining in case I make a mistake! 

 

Well, I did better than that, I had a very nice Cav GSI 2000 16V 4X4 and I noticed that the later version, ie a Cav GSI Turbo 4X4, had rear side mounted interior lights, my Vauxhall dealer could not find the part number by as a Vauxhall Performance Car Club member (really good deal on RAC renewal and 15% discount on Vx parts so repaid the subscription easily), I could talk directly to Vauxhall and they found the part number for me, after taking many deep breathes I cut through the side of the head lining, then drilled a series of small holes and cut out a rectangular hole for the lights, got the wiring in and they worked fine, seem to remember even changing all the rear door switches from one pole to two pole and added diodes so that the interior lights worked as originally intended as that triggered the intruder alarm, but also turned the rear lights on when the rear doors were opened.

 

LED lights in the home, brilliant as long as you use 12V assemblies and supply them from line drivers to avoid flickering, any bulb with its built in voltage changer will fail after a couple of years generally due to these crappy cheap onboard voltage changers!

 

When we refurbished the ensuite bathroom, I fitted matching "cold" white LED lights to the shower extractor and the four spot bar - that was frightening at first  - so white!  A couple of years later the "spot" 230V AC LED bulbs failed one by one so I replaced them with "warm" ones, the 12V LED bulb in the shower extractor is fed with a quality line driver, 5 years on it is still okay, though maybe as time moves on and manufacturers improve designs, these domestic LED bulbs will have longer lifes.

 

cheers

i have just put in 5 mains led downlighters and got the "wrong" bulbs...6500 instead of 4000K

but...they really make the end of the living room look really white...there is a white piano there and there arent any windows there...

i put 4000 in the large bedroom and kitchen, in our second bedroom which is smaller i have warm white all 240v

in the bathroom are fitted the 12v type with transformers above in the loft...its a bungalow so fitting all the stuff is easy

in bathrooms arent the lights to be zone rated...for the steam etc..i didnt do our bathroom so i guess they are the right ones...

i have led bulbs in a few other places...the garage lighting...bayonet fittings and a bedside lamp..

time will tell if they are really 'worth it'

 

i commented in the car led thread in the fact that when i replaced the burnt out incandescent with a similar bulb..pro tem

the light doesnt seem to go off...i thought it might have had some kind of switching??

cheers

geof

 

On 11/23/2017 at 20:28, globalste said:

The wiring comes from near the wheel arch, so it comes from the side.  It will have fallen down and I doubt you will be able to reach it through the hole.  Taking the boot trim off is relatively quick with a set of trim tools and a torx set, but, you need to also remove the trim from behind the rear door pillar and the trim around the side window and the trim below the boot lock.

 

its a bit difficult to get way down there with a probe to see if the cable is there...

but i will persevere..thanks to your advice...

it would be good to have a boot light...and hope it goes off when the boot is shut...the glove compartment doesnt seem to

???

any ideas

cheers

geof

13 minutes ago, mrcrow said:

 

cheers

i have just put in 5 mains led downlighters and got the "wrong" bulbs...6500 instead of 4000K

but...they really make the end of the living room look really white...there is a white piano there and there arent any windows there...

i put 4000 in the large bedroom and kitchen, in our second bedroom which is smaller i have warm white all 240v

in the bathroom are fitted the 12v type with transformers above in the loft...its a bungalow so fitting all the stuff is easy

in bathrooms arent the lights to be zone rated...for the steam etc..i didnt do our bathroom so i guess they are the right ones...

i have led bulbs in a few other places...the garage lighting...bayonet fittings and a bedside lamp..

time will tell if they are really 'worth it'

 

i commented in the car led thread in the fact that when i replaced the burnt out incandescent with a similar bulb..pro tem

the light doesnt seem to go off...i thought it might have had some kind of switching??

cheers

geof

 

The light fitting I got for the ensuite place thing is a "bathroom etc " rated one so that is okay.

 

Could it be that Skoda Fabia has its glove box light on all the time that the side lights are on?  I seem to remember that Ford did it that way in an old Fiesta, any VW's I've owned have had a switch built into the glove box light that was operated by the love box lid.

 

Edit:- my daughter's late 2009 Ibiza did not get a glove box light, I have considered fitting one, but one with the built in lever to switch it on only when the glove box is open, but I'd doubt if she would notice that "improvement" !

Edited 25 November, 20178 yr by rum4mo

The boot is on a timer of about 2-3minutes after it’s closed.  I assume the glovebox is the same.

16 hours ago, globalste said:

The boot is on a timer of about 2-3minutes after it’s closed.  I assume the glovebox is the same.

 

Oh!  Now I'll have to check my wife's 2015 Polo to see if it has a "closing delay" - more things to do !

20 hours ago, globalste said:

The boot is on a timer of about 2-3minutes after it’s closed.  I assume the glovebox is the same.

No it isn't. The boot light goes off as soon as the boot is shut. Same with the glovebox light.
Don't believe me? Try it yourself with your phones video camera. 

At least checking the boot light goes off on a hatch or estate is easier than checking that the light goes out in the glove box or  with a fridge.

 

(some that get a flat battery find it was due to a faulty glove box light switch and the light was staying on.)