The brakes were noticeably poor when I got the car, its not been neglect or lack of maintenance and the performance hasn't degraded over time, they've been mediocre from day one.

Seems to be a common theme on the Superb 4x4 as reported by others on here.  Choice of upgrade was largely driven by mention of Black Diamond products on the forums here....I'm certainly impressed, and hope that by posting up my experience it might help someone along the way....Cheers

Nice although one question - grooved AND DRILLED were too expensive or not available? 

Grooved and drilled are very expensive 
I have been wanting to do this upgrade for a while as I feel it is the discs that are at fault.

I am looking into 4 Drilled Grooved "Rotordiscs"  which I can get for a very good price then put a full set of Predator pads (which I think are great).
Just can't afford the Black Diamond disc route anymore 

On 03/08/2018 at 17:06, TasMan said:

 

 

I take your point, however most insurers will do anything not to pay out.  Fitting non-OEM parts is deemed a change to the car that came out the factory, I think most insurers would take that view, especially when fitting grooved/drilled discs.  In their eyes they think you are driving faster by fitting better brakes and their risk goes up....they don't take account folk who want to have a safer car...

'Brake changes' is their official line on my policy, not my wording, and at no additional cost I'm more than happy to have it declared.  Last thing you want is to pay out your premium and they refuse to insure you as a result of something 'not declared'...

Without digressing I went through all changes on my car - Towbar - not a problem but is noted on my policy, LED Interior Lights - Yes sir, that would be deemed 'interior changes'.....!!  Window stickers - Yes sir, but provided they are removable they will be covered under 'interior changes'......!!  Jeez.....!

 

I don't think you have an understanding of OEM.  It's different from "Genuine Skoda"

You don't tell your insurer when you fit a Mahle or Mann oil or air filter, Motul oil, Osram bulbs,  Hitachi battery or WinRun tyres.  They are all consumables, as are brake pads and rotors.

 

I think your insurer notes it and doesn't charge extra because it really doesn't matter to them and they just want to deal with you and go on to the next customer.

On 05/08/2018 at 10:06, jafo said:

Nice although one question - grooved AND DRILLED were too expensive or not available? 

drilled aren't worth it unless the holes are stress relieved.  too high a change of developing spider-webbing around the holes and not a huge benefit under normal use.  Mainly good for aesthetics on a street car.

On ‎03‎/‎08‎/‎2018 at 00:53, Shaunieboy said:

I would be very interested in all part numbers when you get chance. Brakes are definitely something I'm interested in upgrading on mine.

Finally dug out the BD part codes.  This is for a 2014 4x4.  312mm front discs, 282mm rear discs.

If you decide to go down the BD route, best bet is to send over your car details to Simon @ Black Diamond Performance and he can quote you the correct part numbers.  You can then look at pricing up through stockists, I used DC Performance.

Also worth noting rear calipers can be Lucas or Bosch manufacture and this needs confirmed as the pads differ, mine are Lucas.  You should have the PR code sticker in the boot which is also helpful in confirming part details.  I measured my discs with external calipers through the wheel spokes to check the sizes.

Front Discs                   KBD1353G12 

Front Pads                    PP595

Rear Discs                    KBD1354G12

Rear Pads                     PP636

Hose Kit                       DHK693 

 

On ‎05‎/‎08‎/‎2018 at 01:06, jafo said:

Nice although one question - grooved AND DRILLED were too expensive or not available? 

Yeah I looked at all options, their Combi discs are grooved and drilled and quite a bit more expensive.  I didn't feel these were necessary for what I was aiming for and stuck with the grooved discs.  There have been reports of drilled discs suffering cracking etc so I felt there was no real benefit in my case.

 

On ‎05‎/‎08‎/‎2018 at 04:25, DEL80Y said:

Grooved and drilled are very expensive 
I am looking into 4 Drilled Grooved "Rotordiscs"  which I can get for a very good price then put a full set of Predator pads (which I think are great).

Hope you get some sort of upgrade sorted out DEL80Y, keep us posted.  Not heard of Rotordiscs before, will look them up.  Certainly very happy with my upgrade thus far. 

 

On ‎06‎/‎08‎/‎2018 at 03:12, brad1.8T said:

I don't think you have an understanding of OEM.  It's different from "Genuine Skoda"

You don't tell your insurer when you fit a Mahle or Mann oil or air filter, Motul oil, Osram bulbs,  Hitachi battery or WinRun tyres.  They are all consumables, as are brake pads and rotors.

I think your insurer notes it and doesn't charge extra because it really doesn't matter to them and they just want to deal with you and go on to the next customer.

OK, fair enough OEM isn't genuine Skoda but you can appreciate what I was trying to say ?  The car was fitted with plain discs and standard hoses from the factory.  Now changed these to 12 groove discs with braided hoses - as a result the car has changed from manufacturer's spec.  This sort of change is always of interest to insurers....whether or not they increase your premium has no relevance, its declaring the change that I was interested in.  In the event I need my insurance then I have peace of mind that these changes are noted and there should be no issues related to undeclared modifications - at the end of the day its up to the individual.  As you say, consumables are consumables and I wouldn't think about lifting the phone to inform them of a filter change when its a direct replacement. 

Thanks Tas. They ain't cheap are they !!

Waking up to old thread I’m just about to fit 345 calipers from 3.6 v6 

That should certainly help the scenery slow down !