I can not believe there is a CTR vs Skoda Fabia thread.

I've seen everything now

Well you might soon see a S2000 v Fabia vRS thread... :eek: (Check my sig)

I agree with you, still it makes for some amusing reading!

It's like the 30-50 threads. Yeah, granted, the Fabia is quick compared to petrol cars IN THE SAME GEAR!

Now lets put a CTR in 2nd gear and compare 30-50...

Not hating here, just trying to point out that we are comparing apples and oranges!

Edit - i think two threads got merged here (in case anyone is wondering why I posted two replies one after the other lol)

Well you might soon see a S2000 v Fabia vRS thread... :eek: (Check my sig)

I agree with you' date=' still it makes for some amusing reading!

It's like the 30-50 threads. Yeah, granted, the Fabia is quick compared to petrol cars IN THE SAME GEAR!

Now lets put a CTR in 2nd gear and compare 30-50...

Not hating here, just trying to point out that we are comparing apples and oranges!

Edit - i think two threads got merged here (in case anyone is wondering why I posted two replies one after the other lol)[/quote']

All did was point out a couple of facts/opinions then everyone jumped down my throat with the 'fabia vRS is better then a CTR' crap. I would never compare the two as they are complete opposites. I have in no way said anything against the vRS. After having a test drive yesterday i will be changing to one in about 6 months as i don't need something a driver focused as the CTR anymore and like the 'sporty cruiser-ish-ness' of the vRS. I think from now i'll stick to reading rather than posting. :thumbdwn:

All did was point out a couple of facts then everyone jumped down my throught with the 'fabia vRS is better then a CTR' crap. I would never compare the two as they are complete opposites. I have in now way said anything against the vRS. After all i'm here cos i will be changing to one in about 6 months! I think from now i'll stick to reading rather than posting. :thumbdwn:

Don't take it personally - it's a bit of a running joke on here about how Fabia vRS owners (myself included) believe their cars to be the fastest things on the planet. It's obviously not true, and we all know it really. But then like you say, it can all get a bit out of hand! That's the trouble with only being able to post text - you can't tell how serious someone's being, so sometimes people get all defensive!

Apart from the judicious use of smilies, all I can recommend is resigning yourself to having your posts taken the wrong way from time to time. I remember being quite offended the first time it happened I was talking about how the 120d was the fastest 1-series when the range was launched and then someone went off on one about the 130 being faster, despite the fact you couldn't get them to start with... But it's water off a duck's back now!

Please don't feel like you shouldn't post again! Most people on here are quite friendly!

You'd be suprised how many petrol cars won't do 60 in 2nd either. Most that can will be pushing over 200bhp and probably 200lb/ft standard.

My 8valve Mk 3 GTi does 60 in second - at about 6k RMP. It redlines at around 7k but the exhaust shakes when you push it that high LOL! It will do 90 in 3rd - again - howling like a banshee. But to be honest - the torque comes in lower down - and you are quicker changing up to 4th.

IMHO it is more about gear ratios and max RPM than BHP. My GTi pumps out about 115 BHP and 120 ft lb.

If I was to test a 0-60 in the vRS - I'd probably start in second and just drop the clutch at about 3000 RPM. But I'm not suggesting anyone tries it!!! :eek:

ok I must have a strange Fabia vRS

because I find it seems to keep up with a lot of better performance cars until you need to change to 3rd gear and then you get left behind

i.e. Fabia seems good with 0-40 times (geussing at 40)

also I find the fabia seems to get the traction down really well for quick starts

but that could be because of the tyres (I use Goodyear, loads better grip than Michelin) have a look at Goochies Video of octy and fabia on the Runway you can see for the 1st few seconds the fabia keeps up nicely then as soon as 3rd gear is needed it gets left behind

what also helps it off the lights (I think) is the heavy Deisel engine over the Front wheels to also help get the grip down

Yup sorry I do have a few Traffic light Grad Prix after a boring day at work

I agree, a standard furby vrs upto 2nd gear (40ish) you're okay but in 3rd mine used to really tie up (esp 50-70). Often this is where petrol perfromance cars are at their best so can leave you well behind.

Having said that a remapped furby is a totally different story. Probably get flamed for this but here I go anyway. An opertune moment came at the weekend to have a quick traffic light grand prix with my mate and to try out my new 1 click, just out of interest to see who was quicker.

We were both side by side at the lights and floored it when it went green (no other traffic around and out of town dual carriageway). We both screeched the tyres a little on the off but my furby took the lead and had half a car upto about 40. I was fully expecting my mate to come flying past but when we reached 70 I was a full car ahead at which point we pulled out. To be honest we were both shocked with the result as his car is a clio 172 cup and I never imagined I'd have a chance, even remapped.

I do realise drivers, and techniques make a huge difference and on another run may get beaten but when in gear and accelerating we were pretty much even below 70.

So needless to say I am over the moon with the performance offered by the 1 click, and yes in the handling department I wouldn't have had a chance...and would probably have got passed at speeds above 70 but not bad for a diesel with a 300 quid mod.

You'd be suprised how many petrol cars won't do 60 in 2nd either. Most that can will be pushing over 200bhp and probably 200lb/ft standard.

My ZS120 did 68mph (according to speedo) in 2nd, that's near enough redline though 6700rpm, so even given a 10% fluctuation in speedo reading it'd do 60mph.

I'm really struggling to not get the fabia remapped at the minute, it just seems too tempting. Done 7000 miles now and I still haven't got used to how pointless first gear is lol

I'm sure my old paxo would hit 60 in second as would my 306 though the 306 would be screaming.

Have to say I get a bit fed up of these Fabia Vs Blah threads. They all seem fine until someone gets upset about what is really a stupid thing.

For about the 10th time, here's my Jabba remapped 1/4 mile time done at Elvington last year when the car had sub 10k on the clock. Parcel shelf was removed that's it.

0 - 60 (Secs) : 6.63

0 - 100 (Secs) : 17.08

Quarter Mile (Secs) : 15.04

Terminal Speed (MPH) : 93.81

Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.84

Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 95.45

People say the vRS's 0-60 isnt it's strong point. I agree to an extent, especially when it's wet or your vRS isn't "tuned", but 0-60 on mine only 1 second slower than some exotica isn't too shabby (just stating a fact, not trying to say my car is faster than a ferrari). This time is also the same as a standard CTR and 172/182 cup and realistically a very similar time to a standard UK WRX Impreza.

My car is quicker than my brothers old 172 from a standing start but about 2 lenghts slower than my brothers new 172 cup with no backseats/induction kit.

these threads make you wish the fabia vrs was petrol and weighed less than an octavia.....

these threads make you wish the fabia vrs was petrol and weighed less than an octavia.....

Octavia vRS kerbweight according to Whatcar is 1,354kg which is 39kg more than the Fabia vRS.

Also i'm quite happy my vRS is a diesel, practical, economical and quick. Don't want a petrol varient, it'd defeat the point of the vRS and why there as so many owners.

Capri 2.0 GL with the 4 speed box could manage over 80 mph (indicated) in second. Mind u fuel guage moved in opposite direction almost as fast.

it'd defeat the point of the vRS and why there as so many owners.

Theres a lot of truth in that

@ Neily03.. Sorry!

Don't take it personally ...

Please don't feel like you shouldn't post again! Most people on here are quite friendly!

Yes, I go on a lot of forums, this is one of the nicer places and I don't think anyone meant to upset you...

Try going on pistonheads.com and see how people get jumped on there!!

If it is any consolation I was trying to be as nice as possible about the CTR and vRS being apples and oranges...I said 'I am not hating on you' to try and convey that I didnt mean any offence and also used the smiley which can mean the same.

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Originally Posted by Neily03

You'd be suprised how many petrol cars won't do 60 in 2nd either. Most that can will be pushing over 200bhp and probably 200lb/ft standard.

what the hell does power figures have to do with what gear your in.

Also to make this look further silly. A standard Astra VXR with standard 18's will not hit 60 in 2nd, onl if it has the 19's. So wheel size and gear ratios are the main things to consider

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Originally Posted by Neily03

You'd be suprised how many petrol cars won't do 60 in 2nd either. Most that can will be pushing over 200bhp and probably 200lb/ft standard.

what the hell does power figures have to do with what gear your in.

Also to make this look further silly. A standard Astra VXR with standard 18's will not hit 60 in 2nd' date=' onl if it has the 19's. So wheel size and gear ratios are the main things to consider[/quote']

Is that you Yella??

I did admit on the first (or second) page that i was wrong about the gear thing.

All did was point out a couple of facts/opinions then everyone jumped down my throat with the 'fabia vRS is better then a CTR' crap. I would never compare the two as they are complete opposites. I have in no way said anything against the vRS. After having a test drive yesterday i will be changing to one in about 6 months as i don't need something a driver focused as the CTR anymore and like the 'sporty cruiser-ish-ness' of the vRS. I think from now i'll stick to reading rather than posting. :thumbdwn:

Dude, don't worry about it. I've been through this phase on Briskoda as a petrol car owner with out the torque (and noise) of a diesel...it's your turn, that's all

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Capri 2.0 GL with the 4 speed box could manage over 80 mph (indicated) in second. Mind u fuel guage moved in opposite direction almost as fast.

The less the number of gears the longer the ratios. On the Omega MV6 IIRC 1st gear hit 75km/h-80km/h.

Dude, don't worry about it. I've been through this phase on Briskoda as a petrol car owner with out the torque (and noise) of a diesel...it's your turn, that's all

Looks like he came back.

Is that you Yella??

I did admit on the first (or second) page that i was wrong about the gear thing.

Hallo Neily, tut at your comments. You'd be banned off type-r for a rolling generalisation like that:)

get that order in for the car sooooon.