So I think I've just messed up......... 

 

Got a load of stuff to take to the tip (and will again in the future) and can borrow a mates trailer,  so decided to order a towbar when I found you could get a Swan neck Westfalia for less than £100 delivered from PF Jones. 

 

I had actually looked at previous threads about wiring and concluded on a mk2 I could use a 7way bypass relay and tap into rear wiring loom (as I've done on other cars previously)  but now after I've ordered the bar I found another thread saying 2010 onwards that won't work. 

 

I'd appreciate any definitive comments, the whole point of this is that's its cheap to do,  so if it's going to need a dedicated loom I'd best cancel my order first thing tomorrow..... 

 

Any help very much appreciated! 

No reason you cant, I've just removed a bypass relay from my 2010 elegance,  just tap in to the wiring in the left hand side of the boot. You will also need a 12 volt switched live from ghe fuse box to power the bypass relay. 

 

Some useful info in the link below 

 

https://www.towsure.com/fit_a_multiplex_bypass_relay

11 hours ago, Cryonut said:

No reason you cant, I've just removed a bypass relay from my 2010 elegance,  just tap in to the wiring in the left hand side of the boot. You will also need a 12 volt switched live from ghe fuse box to power the bypass relay. 

 

Some useful info in the link below 

 

https://www.towsure.com/fit_a_multiplex_bypass_relay

Thanks for the reply, it was actually that exact website that made me believe there wasn't going to be any issue, but then after ordering I did found some posts to the contrary. Anyway, I rang PF Jones who assured me they sold loads of these and had never heard of this being an issue so am going to go for it.

 

Anyone happen to have a wiring diagram for the car to save me some time? All references I've found the attachments have timed out as they are quite old. Is there not a switched live to the boot already? :(

No switched live in the boot, it's quite easy to run a single cable go the fuse box, check the relays instructions for the size required, it's probably larger than you might expect, plus make sure it's fused,

All the signal wires can be picked up from the loom on the LHS of the car,

5 minutes ago, Cryonut said:

No switched live in the boot, it's quite easy to run a single cable go the fuse box, check the relays instructions for the size required, it's probably larger than you might expect, plus make sure it's fused,

All the signal wires can be picked up from the loom on the LHS of the car,

 

Thanks again.

 

Left hand side i.e. does it go over / around the rear wheel arch behind the trim? 

 

Might have to buy a Haynes manual for the wiring I think.

16 minutes ago, dangreenwood79 said:

 

 

Left hand side i.e. does it go over / around the rear wheel arch behind the trim? 

 

 

Correct,  then run the cable to the fuse box across the rear of the boot and down the RHS.

1 minute ago, Cryonut said:

 

Correct,  then run the cable to the fuse box across the rear of the boot and down the RHS.

Still searching and researching online, I've read that the relay should be permanent live and also that it should be switched. If  permanent live then as this is only running trailer lights would the 12V (10A?) socket feed in the boot be good enough? I never use it so would happily give this up (or at least not use when trailer is on) as would make life much easier.

 

Lastly any idea if the right hand indicator has to be picked up on the off side or is there a wire on the near side?

 

Needs to be a switched live unless you want a flat battery, 

As far as i remember all the connections on the one i removed were on the lhs

I removed my detachable swan neck Westfalia and Westfalia dedicated loom from my 2010 Scout at the beginning of this year *cough*still sat in my garage*cough* and I opted for the dedicated loom as it just seemed easier./more straight forward which I wanted as I was fitting myself.

 

As above the relay would need to be switched and I'm not aware of anything in the boot that is switched.