Clutch Failure

[survey]

Gave daughter my 2010 yeti 2.0 Tdi 4x4. Now has 65000m on clock. After almost a year she says clutch has failed. Apparently had smelt some burning some months ago. A couple of questions. Does this have a dmf and any idea of costs to repair Clutch (Skoda dealer or clutch specialist). She lives in Swindon.

[Llanigraham]

Yes it does have a Dual Mass Flywheel.

[Gyp]

When I chatted to my local independent, he suggested IRO £1300 to replace the clutch and DMF

[survey]

6 minutes ago, Llanigraham said:

Yes it does have a Dual Mass Flywheel.

Low mileage surely for clutch failure? Goodwill from Skoda? Symptoms of dmf  failure rather than clutch failure alone?

 

7 minutes ago, Llanigraham said:

Yes it does have a Dual Mass Flywheel.

 

[survey]

16 minutes ago, Gyp said:

When I chatted to my local independent, he suggested IRO £1300 to replace the clutch and DMF

Crikey. That's expensive. Goodwill?

[Gyp]

5 minutes ago, survey said:

Low mileage surely for clutch failure? Goodwill from Skoda? Symptoms of dmf  failure rather than clutch failure alone?

 

 

 

Some seem to go as early as 30,000 whilst others go on to 100,000+ or don't fail at all. I'm told symptoms of DMF failure are predominantly a very rattly tickover and when pulling away. A quick Google brings up a couple of examples on Briskoda of DMFs going at 32,000 and 35,000 miles costing £2200 and £1600 to repair.

 

Clutch life will vary hugely depending on use, and I expect there's no chance of Skoda doing a goodwill clutch swap on an 8 year old car.

 

If either the clutch or the DMF have gone it makes sense to do both at the same time as the major cost is the labour of getting to them rather than the parts themselves.

[survey]

If a dmf problem, is there a solid flywheel rather than another dmf?

[Gyp]

1 minute ago, survey said:

If a dmf problem, is there a solid flywheel rather than another dmf?

 

Not from VW, and I believe that can lead to different (expensive) problems

[survey]

Daughter says clutch pedal gets stuck in floor and doesn't return. Thus making it hard to start car 

Edited 27 April, 2018 by survey

[Gyp]

Could be the slave cylinder instead.

[survey]

17 minutes ago, Gyp said:

Could be the slave cylinder instead.

Funny that. I just thought of that myself. It's worth a check maybe by lifting the pedal up and trying to pump it

Edited 27 April, 2018 by survey

[Gyp]

Not sure how accessible the slave is though. Might be easy (as it was on my old BMW E30) or it might be just as hard as the clutch/DMF...

[survey]

Now hear that she has had to pump the clutch pedal sometimes!

[Gyp]

15 minutes ago, survey said:

Now hear that she has had to pump the clutch pedal sometimes!

 

That may well be a good thing :-)

[SuperbTWM]

1 hour ago, Gyp said:

Not sure how accessible the slave is though. Might be easy (as it was on my old BMW E30) or it might be just as hard as the clutch/DMF...

 

It is very accessible after removing the gearbox

[survey]

10 minutes ago, SuperbTWM said:

 

It is very accessible after removing the gearbox

Crikey. Quite a job then!

[Ryeman]

I never thought there would be a time when ticking the slush box option meant increased reliability nor a need to change brands.

Edited 27 April, 2018 by Ryeman

[Gyp]

8 hours ago, Ryeman said:

I never thought there would be a time when ticking the slush box option meant increased reliability nor a need to change brands.

 

If I'm honest, concerns about the longevity of both the DMF and DPF and the cost implications of one or both of them going is one of the major factors that got me to change from the manual Yeti diesel to the DSG Superb petrol..

 

If I'm even more honest I should have just kept driving the Yeti until something packed in rather than preempting it as the trade up cost and depreciation far outweighs the risk that I've mitigated.

 

And the Superb is a lot less joyous than the Yeti :-(

[Ryeman]

1 minute ago, Gyp said:

 

If I'm honest, concerns about the longevity of both the DMF and DPF and the cost implications of one or both of them going is one of the major factors that got me to change from the manual Yeti diesel to the DSG Superb petrol..

 

If I'm even more honest I should have just kept driving the Yeti until something packed in rather than preempting it as the trade up cost and depreciation far outweighs the risk that I've mitigated.

 

And the Superb is a lot less joyous than the Yeti :-(

If long term reliability for a private owner is a priority, I would be guided by what Toyota and Honda consider OK .

My impression is that the dual clutch systems are now being seen as a potential liability.   Ford and VAG can’t claim outstanding reliability let alone peace of mind beyond warranty coverage.

[idleness]

I had my DMF/clutch renewed 5 months ago prior to getting the engine remaped, cost under £800 and if memory is working that included a new slave cylinder, done for the same reason one does the water pump when you change the cambelt. 

It sounds to me like the problem is the slave cylinder as my DMF/clutch produced nasty noises as the clutch was depressed, on the Octy when the slave went it just made the pedal floppy. 

 

[Urrell]

1 hour ago, idleness said:

I had my DMF/clutch renewed 5 months ago prior to getting the engine remaped, cost under £800 and if memory is working that included a new slave cylinder

 

You'd be lucky to get a DMF and Clutch kit for £800.

[idleness]

Just now, Urrell said:

 

You'd be lucky to get a DMF and Clutch kit for £800.

The whole job was under £800 including labour.

[survey]

Although garage not yet seen car they reckon it may be the slave cylinder. Cost? Pain to access?

[idleness]

56 minutes ago, survey said:

Although garage not yet seen car they reckon it may be the slave cylinder. Cost? Pain to access?

Can't remember cost on the Octy but it's a drop the gearbox job as slave is inside bellhousing. 

[survey]

18 minutes ago, idleness said:

Can't remember cost on the Octy but it's a drop the gearbox job as slave is inside bellhousing. 

That's not good then!