Fabia 1.6TDI engine issue

[Aceface1981]

Hi all new here and hoping someone can help,

 

I've very recently picked up a 2010 Fabia SE 1.6 TDI and am now worrying I've bought myself a pig.

 

The car visually looks in great shape with full service history, has 90k miles on the clock, and had a cambelt and water pump change last year around 80k.  It drives great however I've noticed at standhills at traffic lights and idling on my drive it's started to shake a bit and the rev needle wobble ever so slightly. At idle I can also hear a very feint intermitant chirp/whuring sound that increases in speed as I move off and disappears once I start moving. (I've not had a good look but this sound is definitely coming from under the bonnet and not the wheels)

 

I've spoken to the dealer/trader I bought It from and as he's some miles away he's asked me to get a mechanic to look at it , get it diagnosed, we'll 'go from there.. I've said I'll book it in asap.  

 

I've added a link to a short  video on the off chance anyone's had the same issue. Fingers crossed it's nothing major.

 

 

[Bertie90]

Have you checked if you had the software emission update done? I have seen audis, same engine, same behaviour. Mine did the same last week with no engine light. Then a few days later, limp mode. Turns out it is the EGR.

 

Also, mine used to wobble at idle like that last year when an injector failed. Again, no fault codes no light no nothing. The garage had to swap injectors around, reprogram and read the computer to work it out.

 

What I would do:

- follow the link http://skoda-recallactions.skoda-auto.com/en-gb?cd=0 If it's an yes, then brace yourself. There are good topics on here to help you out.

- possibly change the fuel filter (it's only £15 )

 

Edited 25 May, 2018 by Bertie90

[Aceface1981]

Cheers for the reply.

 

I've since found out from Skoda that last September it was in for the software emmisons update and that in October it had cylinder 1 replaced free of charge by Skoda. 

 

The dealer I bought it from has asked me to book it in with a local mechanics to get it diagnosed and says we'll go from there.  It's in this coming Tuesday morning. 

 

Based on what you've said it sounds like it's following the exact same pattern and now I'm waiting for the eml to come on.

 

Tell me there's some good news and that yours is trouble free now?

[Bertie90]

i can see that you have a Octavia 1.6 tdi as well? Do you find that they drive very differently? Or did that one had the update as well?

 

My story:

Car goes in for the injector replacement. It comes out and then the Skoda rep tells me he also applied the update (without my permission). I wasn't happy about it as the car was completely different, so he gave me this piece of paper where it says if i service the car properly and don't make any changes to the car, then for the next 2 years (up to 160k miles) the EGR, Injector and other components are under warranty (FOC replacement). It's been a year since the update and the EGR failed last Saturday.

 

As i'm typing this, I'm waiting for Skoda to return my car today for the EGR replace. It's been in the garage since Wednesday. Since they applied the fix, my car was never the same.

 

Ring Skoda, ask for the warranty or look in the glove box to see if it's in there already with the rest of your paperwork.

 

My other advice. Once repaired, find a good tuning company and remap it.

[Aceface1981]

UPDATE: Just received a call from the garage. They say theres clearly an issue when the engines warm and their best guess would be an injector issue however their diagnostic kit didn't pick up anything at all and with no codes store they can only guess. They've suggested taking it to Skoda or a Skoda specialist who apparantly have equipment to look deeper. I've relayed this to the dealer whose suggested a tank of premium diesel (which I've done) and a good hard 100 mile blast to see if that sorts it out. He's not convinced that another specialist garage will be able to see anymore than this one already has but it's up to me. He has offered a full refund and return if thats what I want. Should I cut my losses and give it back? 

[2ndskoda]

Yes

[Bertie90]

Yes!

 

I guess he'll re-sell it to another unfortunate person. leave a hidden note in the glove box somewhere

[globalste]

definitely give the car back.   There is someone on the eA189 rollback forum with the exact same problems, already had an injector replaced, cant diagnose the fault, you're in for a huge headache and stress.  

 

For greatest piece of mind, don't buy a VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat diesel aged 2010-2016.

[2ndskoda]

"For greatest piece of mind, don't buy a VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat diesel aged 2010-2016." - agreed

 

AMEN

[firefox2]

51 minutes ago, 2ndskoda said:

"For greatest piece of mind, don't buy a VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat diesel aged 2010-2016." - agreed

 

AMEN

What about a 2017 vw/seat/skoda/Audi diesel ? Only asking as I was thinking of trading my fabia tdi for a golf gtd or seat Leon fr ? Sorry to hijack the thread I agree with the rest of the guys if you get the chance of your money back take it !

Edited 31 May, 2018 by firefox2

[2ndskoda]

Hi Firefox2

suggest you go to the Mk3 forum to update to users recent experiences etc

[globalste]

I would buy the new Mk3 tsi over the diesel after driving it as a courtesy car for a month, it got 55mpg avg!!

 

currently only the EA189 engines are embroiled in the fiasco, but for me, it’s just a matter of time before the EA288 engines need to have some sort of update which wrecks those as well, Porsche have just been dragged across the coals so that must mean the 3.0 Audi’s are affected somehow as well, and Audi said they weren’t.

 

Which magazine has just started a witch hunt on problems customers are facing with the EA189 fix.

 

buy a petrol, or another manufacturer is my future tactic, which is a shame as I really like the new Golf GTD and Octavia VRs.

[2ndskoda]

VW's continued policy of not admitting to problems throughout the range, and honouring the supposed warranty and correcting these faults will be the downfall of the brand in this country.

This together with completely inept and lack of product knowledge at the dealers will have many repercussions. Our own ministry of transport is an organisation without influence and teeth, and do not act on the consumers behalf.

Take a look at VW's response to the dieselgate saga in the american market, and compare it with the disinterest and response it showed to the UK.

VW certainly have not undertaken a mass buyback or compensatory approach on this side of the pond.

Edited 31 May, 2018 by 2ndskoda

[Bertie90]

#justsaying

[2ndskoda]

As I said, VW in denial

[spartacus68]

Got a similar issue, same engine, and similar miles. Strange as it's my daily driver for work, and after an hour and a half of driving with steady 70mph on motorway and through the gears on winding B-class roads with temperature at 90 degrees it idles intermittently at the first set of traffic lights on arriving at my destination.

 

Car had the Skoda software and hardware update last year, and I hadn't noticed any issue until recently. Car is serviced every 10k miles and fuel filter is done every 20k miles by myself.

 

Will check VCDS to see if there are any codes stored. If it is the injectors, I may run a can of Forte diesel conditioner through it to see if it makes any difference.

 

I need to keep this car another couple of years so can't ditch it quite yet. It's actually at Skoda for warranty work on rusty rear tailgate, claimed under anti perforation warranty.

[Ootohere]

You still have the VW 24 month trust building guarantee running as well if hardware fails due to their 'fix'. 

[globalste]

As Offski says, your car is covered for 24mths under the Trust Building measures.  Call up the emissions hotline and get your car booked in through them and a courtesy car, it sounds like an injector problem.  The 1.6CR can require the injectors being recalibrated sometimes, they go out of sync with the emissions software update.  They will most likely just replace them as VAG are paying for it though.

 

visit the EA189 emissions rollback group on Facebook and get your car rolled back to standard ASAP if you intend to keep it long term.

Edited 20 June, 2018 by globalste

[spartacus68]

Thanks guys. I'll see how I get on with Forte fuel conditioner first before going back to Skoda. I'm part of a class action to sue VW (been going on for over a year and a half), so I need that resolved before I jeopardise any claim I may have by resetting software. Checking injectors is a good call though.

Edited 20 June, 2018 by spartacus68

[Weallen]

Hi, i am having similar trouble with my 2010 1.6 tdi fabia scout. I have entered my vin and it hasn’t had the software update which by the sounds of it is a good thing. The cars has fsh and is sitting on 118,000 miles and counting. Its a bit rattly but i think the garage i brought it from used cheap oil, so i have new fuel filter, oil and filter to replace. But could my warm running problem be the egr? Is it worth replacing just the seals or thd whole thing? 
 

thanks 

[Breezy_Pete]

You'll probably get better advice if you describe what your 'warm running problem' is. Any fault lights and/or fault codes?

Edited 25 June, 2022 by Breezy_Pete

[Weallen]

No faults code recorded said the garage, no warning lights, very occasionally get the red battery light flicker on after i first start the car in the morning but with a second or two its gone.

 

warm running problem is basically when been driving for longer periods abd on some of these hotter days when i’m in low gears the car is trying to stall, only when its warm though.