I wrestled with the DSG (good and bad compared to my usual manual)  for a day and the 1.4l DSG Karoq has now been handed back.

I eventually figured there were manual gear shift buttons behind the steering  wheel, I could not see them until the last trip back to the dealers. A sport mode could be engaged by pulling back on the gear lever.

BUT there was no mode button anywhere, like on my manual Octavia which has normal, eco, sport and individual.  I was looking for an ECO mode to maximise the mpg. A few more blanks were noted on the centre console. Searched through the CAR menu as well.

Are these modes hidden somewhere?

1.5 DSG Karoq? There is no 1.4 in the UK.

 

On our 3rd DSG after two Yetis.  You can manually shift by moving the lever left, and nudging it up and down, or by using the paddles behind the steering wheel. They do the same thing. The loaning dealer didn't point them out to you?

 

The lever can be put in Sport mode, which holds the gear for longer than Drive. There is no Mode button or Eco mode AFAIK. Leaving it in Drive effectively is Eco mode, as it's supposed to do the best it can for you, with results displayed on the screen under "CAR".

 

DSG is fine for us. I wouldn't dream of going back to manual.

The driver mode (normal, eco, sport and individual ) is an option on the SE and SE Tech but I believe it is standard on the SEL and Edition models.

There is mode selection but its not available with 1.0 tsi (not sure how it is for diesels). Not sure what packages you have available, but where i live its an optional extra.

Ah, OK 

Fair  enough. I dont know the spec. The dealer said it was 1.4l. No sign of cylinder de activation at a gentle cruise.

Your experience, gregoir, highlights the problems with selling modern-day cars.  In the old days it was much more simple as there wasn't much difference in the basics between how to drive different cars (except perhaps where different switches were located, etc) but with infotainment systems being de rigeur, plus issues you mention such as different drive settings, it is no longer so simple.  One almost needs a several minute briefing session with the salesman before driving off - in my case probably forgetting how to do half of what he has told me.

The salesperson who just hands over the key and says "off you go", as in the old days, runs the risk of the customer being put off for some reason - as in your experience .  Although the basics are still pretty straightforward between different cars.

 

On the other hand the internet often enables the prospective purchaser to spend time reading through a downloaded version of the car's handbook, before the test drive, so they can gain a good idea of how to perform some function they consider important, or  explore some feature they wish to check out.  Homework being all the more important these days if you want more than just the basics, I would say.

31 minutes ago, Portman said:

On the other hand the internet often enables the prospective purchaser to spend time reading through a downloaded version of the car's handbook, before the test drive, so they can gain a good idea of how to perform some function they consider important, or  explore some feature they wish to check out.  Homework being all the more important these days if you want more than just the basics, I would say.

I found that by doing my homework online the salesman I bought from was pretty redundant. 

 

I answered many of my own questions and actually knew more about some of the kit in the car than he did. If we hadn't have had our hearts set on the car, and had known less, we'd have probably gone elsewhere to look. 

 

It made me realise that to be a good car salesperson now you need to know a LOT about not only your own product, but that of your competition also. 

2 hours ago, gregoir said:

The dealer said it was 1.4l. No sign of cylinder de activation at a gentle cruise.

 

Could well have been the 1.0l then, 1.4 in the earlier golf/ateca and the 1.5 in the Karoq both have cylinder de-activation, which works quite well to be honest and is fairly unnoticeable apart from the notification on the maxidot.

I have just used the DVLA website to check the registration. And yes it is 999cc. The DSG performance felt and sounded the same as my 1.4tsi manual Octavia Combi. Astonishing to me, what a surprise.

The fuel consumption was about 5 mpg worse than my Octavia, according to the trip compeuchter and a from  cold 5 mile run today saw sub 30mpg in traffic.

Ours is the 1.0 DSG. An individual journey will be variable. The Long Term consumption on ours is 39 ish mpg, much better than our two previous 1.2 Yetis, and via similar oomph. 

7 hours ago, Michael G said:

Ours is the 1.0 DSG. An individual journey will be variable. The Long Term consumption on ours is 39 ish mpg, much better than our two previous 1.2 Yetis, and via similar oomph. 

 

Only 39?

 

I think that demonstrates that little engines have to work harder.

 

We all know the manufacturer figures are nonsense.

 

Personally I’d expect better from a bigger engine.

http://skoda.co.uk/pages/fuel-consumption-statement.aspx 

The manufacturers figures were never for vehicles outside a building going anyplace, and the new figures are not published yet or even the engines available that have the new figures.

They are still not going to be for vehicles with people in every seat that can have people in them or luggage in a boot.

 

Peugeot / Citroen did publish their figures before others have.

Vehicle consumption _ Real use figures - Citroën UK.mhtml

PSA publishes real-world fuel consumption data for 1,000 Peugeot, Citroën and DS cars _ Media Groupe PSA (1).mhtml

Edited 13 June, 20187 yr by Offski

50 minutes ago, BoxerBoy said:

 

Only 39?

 

I think that demonstrates that little engines have to work harder.

 

We all know the manufacturer figures are nonsense.

 

Personally I’d expect better from a bigger engine.

 

So would I. What's your point?

But the bigger more powerful petrol engines are not getting better fuel consumption even being used at similar speeds to smaller engines even if not having to transport much weight and they have higher emissions, which really relates to the lack of efficiency.

Swings and roundabouts.

On 13/06/2018 at 11:06, JanJan said:

There is mode selection but its not available with 1.0 tsi (not sure how it is for diesels). Not sure what packages you have available, but where i live its an optional extra.

 

From reading the manual for my 1.6 TDI DSG it implies that the mode button is only not available on the 1.0 TSI.