We have got a Kodiaq with the option of Personalisation of Drive Mode (did spec it as it was a stock car). Now this is all good but this weekend I had my key to the car in my pocket and the wife had her key in her handbag. If I program the system to the key how will it know what key to select if two keys enter the car at the same time?

I don't have the personalisation option, but I guess it will use the one that you use to unlock the car. So make sure the driver touches the handle first.

From what I recall reading somewhere, possibly the manual, it mentioned to not have both keys with you in the vehicle as it may introduce some conflicts or issues.  I have this mode but still not utilised it as yet.

From the UK manual, p57:

"After unlocking the vehicle and opening the driver's door, all the personalised functions are adjusted according to the user account that is assigned to the key which was used to unlock the vehicle. "

 

I think there is a process you have to go through to link the key to a user account. Described on p58. Didn't see any warning about having both keys in the car at the same time

But if the OP and his wife are stood by the car when it is unlocked, how do you (or the car) determine which key unlocked the car (assuming KESSY was used rather than the keyfob buttons)?

 

Is the system accurate enough to know which key is closest to the door handle that was touched to unlock the car?

 

Edited 19 June, 20188 yr by silver1011

If it's like the system on my Superb, you need to assign the key to the profile. From memory, select the profile and there is a tick-box to assign the key to it. It then asks you to press the unlock button on the fob. That's how it knows which fob is which. If you want to do a search there is a thread on the Superb III forum. I'm on a phone at the moment so can't post a link. Hope it helps. 

But the issue here is when both keys are next to the car at the point it is unlocked.

 

Does the car know which key was used to unlock the car if KESSY is used rather than the keyfob?

48 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

Is the system accurate enough to know which key is closest to the door handle that was touched to unlock the car?

 

It's certainly accurate enough to not allow me to shut the boot with the key button unless I'm stood behind it and not too far away. I'm sure it's a safety thing to stop you closing the boot when you can't see if anyone/thing is in the way, but it's more than a bit annoying.

5 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

But the issue here is when both keys are next to the car at the point it is unlocked.

 

Does the car know which key was used to unlock the car if KESSY is used rather than the keyfob?

Not sure TBH, but it really doesn't matter. A profile will appear when you press the start button. If it is yours then just select it by pressing the control wheel. If not, rotate the control wheel until the right profile appears. It will then ask if you want to move the seat to that profile's stored position. Clicking on the control wheel again moves seats and mirrors. Interestingly it also remembers which radio station or stored audio file that profile was listening to the last time they drove the car!

Ah, OK, so the driver still needs to select the chosen stored profile?

 

In that case you're right, whichever key actually unlocks the car is irrelevant.

1 minute ago, BriskodaJeff said:

A profile will appear when you press the start button. If it is yours then just select it by pressing the control wheel. If not, rotate the control wheel until the right profile appears. It will then ask if you want to move the seat to that profile's stored position. Clicking on the control wheel again moves seats and mirrors.

 

By which time, us mere mortals without the personalisation feature have simply unlocked the door, got in, and pressed the button on the seat if necessary to move it.

 

1 minute ago, BriskodaJeff said:

Interestingly it also remembers which radio station or stored audio file that profile was listening to the last time they drove the car!

 

That also happens without the personalisation thing (i.e. depending on the key used).

 

I guess the personalisation feature gets you the ability to choose a profile no matter what key is used. The ability to add a key to a profile so it automatically applies it is another thing, but I don't see that's much different from the keys having different profiles as standard anyway. Oh, and renaming the profiles!

I was hoping that the need to select a profile each time would go away if the profile was stored with the key, hence the question of knowing who is in the drivers seat if we both have keys on us. If selection each time is the case it is a useless option as I may as well just press the preset on the seat. I have to adjust the steering wheel manually anyway.

 

It seems to be a waste of time.

As above confirm the profile on the menu when you start the car.

11 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

Ah, OK, so the driver still needs to select the chosen stored profile?

 

That's right. 

11 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

In that case you're right, whichever key actually unlocks the car is irrelevant.

Not quite. If you are using your key, your settings are already set up for you. Saves all of 5 seconds.

1 hour ago, silver1011 said:

But if the OP and his wife are stood by the car when it is unlocked, how do you (or the car) determine which key unlocked the car (assuming KESSY was used rather than the keyfob buttons)?

Standing next to the car doesn't unlock it (and walking away from the car doesn't lock it). To unlock the car you have to hold the handle (or at least put your fingers in the gap behind it) while the key is on your person. The key has to be within about 3 feet.

That's what I meant, assuming the driver unlocks the car (by touching the drivers side handle), does the car know that the key in his pocket is the one that was used to authorise the car to unlock, or would it confuse it with the key in wife's handbag, stood next to the passenger door, i.e. who's settings / profile would the car choose to adopt after unlocking.

 

Either way it's irrelevant now as it has been established that if the car is confused, or the system isn't accurate enough, then the driver can simply select his or her preferred profile using the steering wheel buttons.

2 hours ago, silver1011 said:

That's what I meant, assuming the driver unlocks the car (by touching the drivers side handle), does the car know that the key in his pocket is the one that was used to authorise the car to unlock, or would it confuse it with the key in wife's handbag, stood next to the passenger door, i.e. who's settings / profile would the car choose to adopt after unlocking.

 

Either way it's irrelevant now as it has been established that if the car is confused, or the system isn't accurate enough, then the driver can simply select his or her preferred profile using the steering wheel buttons.

The key has to be within a short distance of the handle that was touched. So if the drivers handle is used and the second key is on the other side of the car it will get the right one. If both keys are by the drivers door it may be that the one that was programmed first or last at the factory takes priority (I can't remember) , it may be the last one used takes priority or it may just be pot luck.

My mistake on day 1 was leaving the key setting to “automatic”. 

 

Later I changed to “manual” and manually assigned each of the 3 keys to 3 named profiles.

 

The car then happily recognised the key profile at stat up.

 

My test with all 3 keys in my pocket showed that the start up profile was that for Key 3 - the same key used on the previous journey.

 

If the key holder is near enough to the car, I think another person can open the door.  The key doesn’t know where it is relative to fingers and door handles - it just has to be near enough.

 

I think it’s all magic. 

21 hours ago, BoxerBoy said:

 

 

If the key holder is near enough to the car, I think another person can open the door.  The key doesn’t know where it is relative to fingers and door handles - it just has to be near enough.

 

I think it’s all magic. 

Correct on both counts! In fact the key doesn't know where it is at all. The car knows where the key is.