https://electrek.co/2018/06/21/vw-all-electric-race-car-fastest-time-in-pikes-peak-qualifying-round/

Ev's are the future, sooner than you think

3 minutes ago, Suuntobob said:

Ev's are the future, sooner than you think

Yeah, much to the dislike of the Tesla ‘shorts’ though.

So are VW any that much nearer production & delivery of a choice of full EV vehicles with good range and fast charging @ affordable prices?

Edited 22 June, 20187 yr by Offski

1 hour ago, Suuntobob said:

Ev's are the future, sooner than you think

Let me know when a TTZero bike completes a Lightweight distance in a competitive time.

1 hour ago, Suuntobob said:

Ev's are the future, sooner than you think

For short distances maybe, but not for some time as a credible long distance alternative - unless you like spending several hours recharging the batteries which you "enjoy" a greasy spoon cafe.

9 minutes ago, SWBoy said:

For short distances maybe, but not for some time as a credible long distance alternative - unless you like spending several hours recharging the batteries which you "enjoy" a greasy spoon cafe.

I had a Tesla for the weekend and from Heathrow to Padstow I charged 3 times for the round trip a total of 600 miles. 2 @ 50 mins 1 @ 15 mins not an hardship in my opinion. After 230 miles of driving a 50 min break is not a bad idea.

Unless you need to get on with life and travel and the average speed on the roads you are driving is maybe 55 mph max and you want to get at least 300 miles in before a stop & you have no time to mess about finding a charger, or some muppets have shut it down with Cream Eggs and it is out of action for months.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-44561039# 

Scotland where Wind Turbines are us, renewable energy driving the economy, and the infrastructure for EV's is still sharn.

£800 of damage,

you want to see the hundreds of thousands of cost of Police Scotland escorting turbines in Scotland, 

and even the wrong parts that need returned and then the correct ones escorted. 

 

Wind Farm Companies should be putting in Electric Chargers as a payback to the communities, 

like the biggest ones in the North East where Lord Nicol Stephen heads them, the ex Leader of the LibDems in Scotland, 

the one that was so big on green when in the Scottish Government

 

 

Convoy chaos will be repeated on the A96 after a wind farm firm ordered the wrong parts _ Press and Journal.mhtml

Energy Voice _ Lord Stephen's firm secures funding for Aberdeenshire wind farm - News for the Oil and Gas Sector.mhtml

Peer's wind farm empire _ UK _ News _ Express.co.uk.mhtml

Energy Voice _ Lord Stephen's firm secures funding for Aberdeenshire wind farm - News for the Oil and Gas Sector.mhtml

£250m Stonehaven windfarm project approved _ Press and Journal.mhtml

Edited 22 June, 20187 yr by Offski

@Suuntobob A Tesla (Model S presumed) is not typical of "electric cars". My neighbour's departed (happily IHerO) Leaf is, and it needed recharging every 100 miles at best.

1 hour ago, KenONeill said:

@Suuntobob A Tesla (Model S presumed) is not typical of "electric cars". My neighbour's departed (happily IHerO) Leaf is, and it needed recharging every 100 miles at best.

Yes it was a Model S.

Model 3 (deposit down) will be out next year and will be typical by 2022

1 minute ago, Suuntobob said:

Yes it was a Model S.

Model 3 (deposit down) will be out next year and will be typical by 2022

Typical for a Tesla, but very unlikely to be typical for mainstream EVs which are going to be designed down to a price (like car manufacturers have always done) and hence have less range AND longer recharge times.

 

Plus high charge rate charging points are not going to be the norm - if they were then we would have a VERY serious shortfall in generating capacity.

Sets a new record, including Loeb’s -

https://electrek.co/2018/06/24/vw-all-electric-race-car-broke-more-records-pikes-peak-hill-climb/

 

Who needs ‘cubes’ !.

Thank God Hammond wasn't driving it!

 

 

Edited 25 June, 20187 yr by camelspyyder

^^^^^ he thinks the laws of physics don’t apply to him apparently.    It was a ‘fat’ car.

On 6/22/2018 at 16:22, SWBoy said:

Typical for a Tesla, but very unlikely to be typical for mainstream EVs which are going to be designed down to a price (like car manufacturers have always done) and hence have less range AND longer recharge times.

 

Plus high charge rate charging points are not going to be the norm - if they were then we would have a VERY serious shortfall in generating capacity.

Where do you get your info from, not at all what I have read, take a look at the uk charging network. Whether you like it or not, (I suspect you don't) EV's are the future. All the big companies are putting billions into research and governments are banning ice car production. Get used to it.

I spotted new charging points being installed at my local Gulf filling station.   not seen many of the new affordable housing parking places that are being built right now getting charging points for EV,s. They have built new ones with solar panels on the roofs,  no idea why each complex has not a wind turbine as well and solar panels on a canopy at a charging station.  Not interest obviously by developers and architects,  or local authority planning and councillors to make it happen. 

Edited 26 June, 20187 yr by Offski

Henry Ford didn’t account for tollways either.   The horses still rule.

1 hour ago, Suuntobob said:

Where do you get your info from, not at all what I have read, take a look at the uk charging network. Whether you like it or not, (I suspect you don't) EV's are the future. All the big companies are putting billions into research and governments are banning ice car production. Get used to it.

OK, I'll bite. What have you read that discusses actual new generating capacity?

4 hours ago, Suuntobob said:

Where do you get your info from, not at all what I have read, take a look at the uk charging network. Whether you like it or not, (I suspect you don't) EV's are the future. All the big companies are putting billions into research and governments are banning ice car production. Get used to it.

The UK charging network is currently tolerable in and around cities, but largely non-existent in rural areas. At the weekend I travelled 200 miles around Exmoor without going anywhere near any of the 3 charging points currently available. And that situation is normal in rural areas, which I suspect is why those who live in or near cities do not understand the problem...

 

I welcome EVs as the future (despite your incorrect suspicion) BUT (and it's a big but) the infrastructure, AND the generating capacity to allow charging have to be in place before there is compulsion to ban ICE vehicles to avoid creating members of the rural population that have no means of transport (no public transport in many rural communities so personal or community transport is the only option).

15 minutes ago, SWBoy said:

The UK charging network is currently tolerable in and around cities, but largely non-existent in rural areas. At the weekend I travelled 200 miles around Exmoor without going anywhere near any of the 3 charging points currently available. And that situation is normal in rural areas, which I suspect is why those who live in or near cities do not understand the problem...

 

I welcome EVs as the future (despite your incorrect suspicion) BUT (and it's a big but) the infrastructure, AND the generating capacity to allow charging have to be in place before there is compulsion to ban ICE vehicles to avoid creating members of the rural population that have no means of transport (no public transport in many rural communities so personal or community transport is the only option).

https://www.zap-map.com/live/

And we haven't got going in this country yet, these are for a few Nissan leaf's etc.

Most people will charge at home overnight. As for generating capacity, have a look at offski post above and that's not counting new off shore.

Scotland generates lots of Electricity from Wind Farms,  and can generate even more from what is already there, just no storage or users needing it so like the Coal & Gas generation the companies are paid to not produce what is not being used.

Scotlands Electricity Generating Companies need to be producing more Hydrogen, and also getting the electricity to peoples Vehicles, Homes & Workplaces for storage and use. 

Money needs spending on useful stuff like people using the renewables generated electricity & not just to pay for the maybe, sometime, & cash to owners of land with turbines on and those erecting them and running the companies.

 

The Scottish Government is all talk and not a lot of action on the Electrification and 50 miles max between charge points, they need that to be public charge points with chargers to suit a number of vehicles arriving at and on a journey and not stopping over and hanging about.

 

Over 5 years ago now.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-21346299 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-31449607 

 

Now there are more EV's being put on the roads time to get on with Job Opportunities, building equipment, installing and making use of the renewables generated electricity.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/business-42876343 

 

Edited 26 June, 20187 yr by Offski

Out here I imagine home storage will suffice for work commute needs Mon-Fri and on weekends increased demand off-site will be enabled by much reduced industrial demand.

CAPTURING MORE WIND ENERGY

The United Kingdom will soon be the home of the world’s largest offshore wind farm. Construction has begun on the 407 sq. kilometer (157 sq. miles) project, with power company Ørsted leading development. The company explains the 1.2 gigawatt (GW) wind farm is being constructed 120km (74.5 miles) off the Yorkshire coast and is expected to be completed by 2020. Upon completion, it will be capable of supplying clean energy to over 1 million homes.

Officially called Hornsea Project One, the first of the farm’s 174 monopiles has already been installed. Monopiles are cylindrical support structures made of steel that are installed deep within the seabed. They’re the most commonly used foundations in offshore wind farm projects, and each monopile used for Hornsea Project One is 65m (213 ft) long, weighs around 800 tons, and has a diameter of 8.1m (26.5 ft).

 

Construction is being carried out by two ships. The first, the Jack-Up Vessel Innovation, is handling the aforementioned monopiles — of which it can carry up to four at a time. The second ship — A2Sea’s vessel Sea Installer — will join the project in March, installing the 7 megawatt (MW), 190m (623 ft) tall wind turbines and turbine blades. It can carry four turbines at a time. According to Electrek, these turbines could potentially generate 25 hours of electricity with one blade rotation.

MORE WIND FARMS TO COME

Once Hornsea Project One is completed, Ørsted has plans for additional wind farms. The appropriately named Hornsea Project Two will follow soon after the first and is expected to power up to 1.6 million homes. Hornsea Project Three, while still in early development, will be constructed near the preceding two wind farms.

“These wind farms will not only greatly contribute to the UK’s goal of decarbonizing our energy system, they are also bringing jobs and investment to Grimsby and the North East,” said Duncan Clark, program director for the project, in a press release.

A conceptual map showing the location of Hornsea Projects One, Two, and Three. Image Credit: Ørsted

Currently, the title of world’s largest wind farm belongs to the London Array. The 630 MW wind farm is 100 sq. kilometers (38 sq. miles) in size, and powers roughly 500,000 homes in the UK. Germany is home to the world’s largest wind turbine, however, which towers over the German town of Gaildorf at an impressive 808 ft tall.

It’ll be interesting to see if wind farms continue to grow in size as wind energy becomes more viable. Last year, scientists at the Carnegie Institution for Science in Stanford, California suggested that a single giant wind farm built in the North Atlantic could capture enough energy to power the entire planet. While it’s an interesting idea, it would bring its own set of problems — such as dealing with extreme mid-ocean weather, reducing the performance of onshore wind farms in the UK, and reducing temperatures in the Arctic.

^^^ It was a smart move changing their name from  DONG Energy.  

 

When The Donald visits his Aberdeenshire Trump International golf course next i hope he likes the new view out to the North Sea. 

If Trump & TESLA are Making America Great Again then a few turbines to provide energy for the Cars imported from America should not upset the Golfers or the President of the USA,

World's most powerful wind turbine installed off Aberdeen coast - Sunday Post.mhtml

 

 

 

Edited 26 June, 20187 yr by Offski

1 hour ago, Suuntobob said:

The United Kingdom will soon be the home of the world’s largest offshore wind farm.

Great - WHEN the wind blowing coincides with demand, what is also needed is much more storage whether that be masses of Tesla batteries (as in South Australia) or pump storage.

 

"Old style" generation could be timed when demand peaks happen, which cannot be said for wind or solar - that's the problem which needs solving, just adding extra wind or solar generating capacity is only part of the solution.