That's great, more charging options.

Also, nice site, I didn't know about this site!

 

Interestingly the V4, Tottenham service centre on N Circular, has disappeared off the charge-other-EV screen. It was rammed with taxi (initially lots of e-niro, later ID4 and Mercs) every time I drove past. I guess they are actively tweaking demands and the rumour about closing off are not true.

 

The Tottenham chargers are at a service centre and were so busy Tesla staff and customers were struggling to get a charge. As you say, rammed with taxis. It shows ti me that it IS about price now there are choices. 

 

Tesla doing right by their customers by relieving the pressure from non-Teslas

Edited 24 November, 20241 yr by Luckypants

Tesla have said they will keep V2/V3 open and upgrade payment system (to comply with regulation):

 

Source seems credible, the person is in charge of Tesla Supercharging northern Europe.

 

Hopefully that means replacing the short cables with V4.

Shout out to Sainsbury Smartcharge. From a standing start in January 2024 they are now at over 60 ultra rapid charger hubs. Thats some roll out.

 

https://smartcharge.co.uk/locations

Edited 26 November, 20241 yr by Luckypants

A couple of MFg sites live
 

 

Osprey continue to expand with a new 8x300kW hub at Basingstoke. Part of their partnership with Supermarket Income REIT, who own retail parks etc.

It's great they are building more. But adding charging to car park spaces send the message that you charge while you park, which does not help with healthy understanding of very different charging speeds for EV. 

 

Going forward, I think supermarket/retail park car parks should only get maximum of 50 kW charging. 1 hour shop fills up the car, no overstay charge. AC 22 kW nearby at slightly cheaper price and no expectation to move on AC. 

At other end of scale, park & ride, train station, residential streets get 7 kW, the long stay locations. 

Ultra rapid should all get petrol station forecourt style layout at dedicated stations, with heafty idle fee. Most people will hopefully get the message that this operates like petrol station, move once got enough. 

@wyx087 are you helping others understand charging speeds / needs?    Maybe that comes from you having charging at home.

 

1 hour on a 50 kWh charger might just get 30 kWh of a charge.

1 hour on a crap 50 kW Charger might not even fill the battery of a 30 kWh battery like with a MINI Electric,  I got 24 kWh in 1 hour 6 minutes yesterday.

But then it is a max 50 kW charge speed car.   Like others have. 

Edited 28 November, 20241 yr by Ootohere

5 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

@wyx087 are you helping others understand charging speeds / needs?    Maybe that comes from you having charging at home.

May be. I view ultra-rapid charging as mandatory move when done, petrol station mentality. 

I find people don't like it when being told it's best to move their car once complete charging. People are only friendly when they look confused and help was offered. 

 

I was just offering a rough estimate with 1 hour as typical time spent at supermarket. Some spend more time, some spend less. If speed is limited by the car, then it's probably close to full? 

 

The important thing is to not let the idea of parking at ultra-rapid charging get into people's heads. It's not a parking spot. But adding ultra-rapid charging to current parking spot without changing layout will give people the opposit idea. 

There is lots of the UK not in the London Region with all the chargers there supposedly.    People often do what ever they need to, and many care not a jot about others.   Plugging in a PHEV and leaving all day when the battery  empty to full is less than 2 hours.  EV drivers do the same.    There really is not parking long term with a car plugged in and chargers for all.     Cheap or Free Supermarket charging brought out the greedy in people.  PodPoint at Tesco and 44 pence a kWh on a 7 kW AC charger had many stopping being greedy barstewards. 

Edited 28 November, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Gridserve Expansion at Lancaster Northbound services
 

 

MFG have opened a 400kW facility in Farringdon
 

 

https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/northwest/news/2143581-bid-to-develop-europe’s-largest-site-for-electric-vehicle-ultra-rapid-charging-spaces

 

“Our proposals will deliver a further 47 ultra rapid chargers (250kW), taking the total at the centre to 65, which is expected to make Trafford Centre the largest ultra rapid charging hub in Europe.”

 

65 at a single location! 🤩

Makes quite a lot of sense. Loads of shoppers travel there from miles away (bus trips from North Wales even) and it's right next to the M60. I think the fact that the open to all Tesla chargers are busy and quite expensive by Tesla standards tells us it needs more. If the grid connection is there, crack on.

On 26/11/2024 at 14:51, Luckypants said:

A couple of MFg sites live
 

 

Been to the Colindale car park today: 

Very poorly lit car park, they only had half the lights on. But the charging bays were lit up brighter than outside today. 
 

All 50 kW, I think perfect speed for typical dwell time over 1 hour. 
 

Old Chargemaster AC posts had been removed. 

Is that an entitled BMW driver I see parked in a charging bay with no cable connected to the car? 🙄

1 minute ago, Luckypants said:

Is that an entitled BMW driver I see parked in a charging bay with no cable connected to the car? 🙄

Keen eyes. Yes...... and told me to F off when he was loading something (a few seconds after that photo was taken, was probably behind that car) and I loudly stated the obvious fact this car wasn't charging and that car is. 

 

The old AC posts did not have any restriction on parking and not charging, but there's lots more so there is always some spot that can plug in. Now there's less and the wider spaces are more enticing for entitled tools. 

 

Not sure which one is better for EV adoption......... 

New Osprey hub opened at Ivybridge 8x300kW connections
 

 

One I missed (I'm sure there are many more!)

New Osprey hub in Barnstable 6x300kW plugs.
 

 

On 29/11/2024 at 10:37, Luckypants said:

Gridserve Expansion at Lancaster Northbound services
 

 

GRIDSERVE have now expanded Lancaster South too
 

 

New Be.EV hub in Alnwick
 

 

Gridserve opens at Rownhams services

 

 

If only he could act less like a nutter.

 

 

I've not posted in here for a while but that doesn't mean no new hubs have been added. Tebay north has had an extra 150kW charger for instance.

 

Gridserve have expanded Exeter services....
 

 

PoGo Charge energised 13 new sites in December 

 

https://pogocharge.com/thirteen-new-ev-charging-sites-now-live/