11 hours ago, wyx087 said:

There wasn't any supercharger in this location before, it was Mothercare. I suspect V3 stalls were planned originally.

My bad, I thought these were at the service centre that had the chargers taken out by a flying Range Rover. As an aside, these are meant to be open to all cars but not showing in the app. yet, under 'Charge my Non-Tesla'.

https://twitter.com/EVAEOfficial/status/1695015645635625044?s=20

Edited 29 August, 20232 yr by Luckypants

Yes, it's not showing on Tesla app nor car yet, so I don't know what they cost and didn't plug in. But I did see a Model X successfully charge while I looked around the showroom. Thanks for the twitter link, so it also supports contactless payments. 

 

Nose in, the cable still wouldn't easily reach the left rear, see my side photo, unless it's a really short car. ID3 might work? 

 

Flying Range Rover, that's not something you'd hear everyday 😅

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696417404761559356

 

Supercharging is free today, until 11 pm, confirmed on the app. Including for those open-to-all superchargers.

1 hour ago, wyx087 said:

Yes, it's not showing on Tesla app nor car yet, so I don't know what they cost and didn't plug in. But I did see a Model X successfully charge while I looked around the showroom. Thanks for the twitter link, so it also supports contactless payments. 

 

Nose in, the cable still wouldn't easily reach the left rear, see my side photo, unless it's a really short car. ID3 might work? 

 

Flying Range Rover, that's not something you'd hear everyday 😅

 

How about taking three parking/charging slots then.....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2023/02/23/tesla-ccs-magic-docks-revealed-but-with-short-cords-can-non-tesla-cars-really-charge-at-them/

3 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696417404761559356

 

Supercharging is free today, until 11 pm, confirmed on the app. Including for those open-to-all superchargers.

 

Any free diesel or petrol stations today to compete ?

 

Think this is a heroin dealer's trick, get you hooked on cheap or free lecky then they have got you.

 

Probably server maintenance dressed as a perk. 
 

Tesla only: 

 

Open-to-all: 

1 hour ago, wyx087 said:

Flying Range Rover, that's not something you'd hear everyday 😅

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/horror-footage-shows-range-rover-27805901

And also, wow! that was a year ago! I was thinking it was just a few months ago. I'm getting senile.......

My local Disabled EV user friendly charger with extra long cables did get a barrier after a year for users to keep the cables out of the way for people pulling up and not driving over them.

Pigs might fly when it comes to users thinking about how will be using the charger next.

 

Some hope of ease with anyone in a wheel chair using the cable to get to charge ports other than at the 'dropped kerb' side. 

 

My MINI is pretty good for being able to get a CCS charger cable to or even a tethered AC & get in and out the car, 

but it can mean walking behind a charger to get to the screen, or walking around the front of the car, or maybe parking at odd angles into bays.

Not really an issue really with a short car.

 

 

 

 

 

Cost a lot less to charge the car than Flight, parking and how much coffee he drinks / buys.

Simply clever was not to take the car or to take an ICE then.

One that does not have a flat battery after a week or 3 parked.

 

Funny from the guy who often charges to near 100% himself. 

The one that moans about the time to charge and always stuffing his face.

 

He is the one with the big heavy car with a big battery and able to charge quite fast on appropriate chargers and to 90% might be quite quick if you need to charge to that and get on your way.

Going on about 80% all the time is just too much of a generalisation and a location location location thing.

Like mumping about the tariff and pretending often to know not what they are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 29 August, 20232 yr by toot

Nice new ten charger installation at Worcester Garden Centre.  A Mer install and the type the are due to put in at around 39 of their garden centres I gather.

Along with Dobbies garden centres seems to be a pattern and with their restaurants perhaps a good place to stop for 20 or 30 minutes.

 

7 rapids, two 22 kw AC and a Chad and prices not too bad for us Octoverse peeps.

 

Left   22 kW  £0.56/kWh     Right   22 kW  £0.56/kWh   Charging Speed Semi-fast Location access Public  Status Available

 

 

52p for Octoverse I see.

 

Seven 150 kW chargers at 78p kwh as a none discounted but via Octoverse or Mer's club 72p per kWh so I will go for the 52p per kWh and get a coffee.  

 

 

  

Edited 29 August, 20232 yr by lol-lol

Kid gone to sleep, traffic looks to be clearing, so I went for a drive and charge. 50% to 96%, received about 35 kWh. Free is indeed very nice.

 

This new Tottenham rapid was only about 1/3 in use with cars come and go, despite being free for today.

 

I was planning to charge to 80%, but at around 70%, I fired up new Vampire Survivors game in the car and lost track of time.

50 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Kid gone to sleep, traffic looks to be clearing, so I went for a drive and charge. 50% to 96%, received about 35 kWh. Free is indeed very nice.

 

This new Tottenham rapid was only about 1/3 in use with cars come and go, despite being free for today.

 

I was planning to charge to 80%, but at around 70%, I fired up new Vampire Survivors game in the car and lost track of time.

 

Not too scary in such a rough part of London, or so my Arsenal friends says, high jacking, mugging etc a concern on this site ?

Edited 29 August, 20232 yr by lol-lol

A junction down the North Circular was where the riot and looting took place about 12 years ago. This whole area always felt very dodgy. 

 

But there's a big Tesco nearby with a little foot traffic along the road, the charging area are very well lit and other cars come and go. The retail park entrance also had an occupied security car. In early days, I've charged in more dodgy feeling location without lighting, on a single rapid, completely alone. 😨

 

I don't follow football, but I suspect wearing rival football shirt might be paint a target on one's back. 

10 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Nice new ten charger installation at Worcester Garden Centre.  A Mer install and the type the are due to put in at around 39 of their garden centres I gather.

Along with Dobbies garden centres seems to be a pattern and with their restaurants perhaps a good place to stop for 20 or 30 minutes.

 

7 rapids, two 22 kw AC and a Chad and prices not too bad for us Octoverse peeps.

 

Left   22 kW  £0.56/kWh     Right   22 kW  £0.56/kWh   Charging Speed Semi-fast Location access Public  Status Available

 

 

52p for Octoverse I see.

  

I take it you are on Intelligent Octopus tariff? The prices on my Electroverse app show the full price. Not having a working smart meter means I'm a second class electricity customer and have no access to all these discounts. Another example of 'the provinces' providing the power and the south getting all the benefits.

2 hours ago, Luckypants said:

I take it you are on Intelligent Octopus tariff? The prices on my Electroverse app show the full price. Not having a working smart meter means I'm a second class electricity customer and have no access to all these discounts. Another example of 'the provinces' providing the power and the south getting all the benefits.

 

Octopus Go but my 7.5p/40p ends 17th September 2023 ie less than 3 weeks time and Octopus Go will renew then but on the 9.5p and 29p night/day rates so should be about a couple of tenners better off on the new rate as although I charge the Zoe and my batteries up in the 4 hours cheap I can only get to about two thirds in the cheap period, one third expensive period so expensive time has costs twice the cheap period due to the 5:1 ratio of cheap rate to expensive rate but that is changing to 3:1 as of 17/9/2023.

 

Gas going even cheaper with Octopus ie below 7p a kwh and all of this means I need to bother less about when I use, and how much, power for either gas or lecky.  The standing charge is the bit I despise but cannot do anything about that except go off grid, which is a thought.  Just need my own mini gas powered generation set.

 

Zoe is not Intelligent compatible and quite use to Go and have no desire to blow my mind with Intelligent.  £125 a month for gas and lecky for a 4 bedroom house with EV charging for a car doing 6k miles a year from the home charging is nice and cheap.  Greg Jackson is is a Steely-Eyed Missile Man.   

 

2 hours ago, wyx087 said:

A junction down the North Circular was where the riot and looting took place about 12 years ago. This whole area always felt very dodgy. 

 

But there's a big Tesco nearby with a little foot traffic along the road, the charging area are very well lit and other cars come and go. The retail park entrance also had an occupied security car. In early days, I've charged in more dodgy feeling location without lighting, on a single rapid, completely alone. 😨

 

I don't follow football, but I suspect wearing rival football shirt might be paint a target on one's back. 

 

Somebody got 6 month for stealing 12 bottles of water during the riots.  

https://www.thejournal.ie/student-jailed-for-six-months-for-looting-a-case-of-water-in-london-199256-Aug2011/

 

Unluck was not sent to Australia.

 

5 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Greg Jackson is is a Steely-Eyed Missile Man.   

Only if you have a working smart meter..... 

37 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Zoe is not Intelligent compatible and quite use to Go and have no desire to blow my mind with Intelligent.  £125 a month for gas and lecky for a 4 bedroom house with EV charging for a car doing 6k miles a year from the home charging is nice and cheap.  Greg Jackson is is a Steely-Eyed Missile Man.   

Intelligent is brilliant.  6 hour cheap vs 4 hours. And by keeping my car SoC low, I can get extra cheap slots and thus whole house consumption gets billed at lower rate. Last bill, I managed to get my electricity usage average out to be 10.17p/kWh  (IO at 7.5p/kWh and 31p/kWh). Before, I can only manage 12-15p/kWh (Go at 7.5p/kWh and 35p/kWh).

 

I'm hoping to get to around 8p/kWh when V2H gets installed, finally got DNO approval and just waiting installation to be booked in. 

 

Currently DD set at £188 per month for me. I like to build up a buffer during summer and adjust downwards in spring. After last bill I had about £350 in credit. I can probably get away with ~£130-150 after I gain home storage. 3 bedroom house with small 2.9 kW-p W-E solar and EV charging total ~15k miles. 

 

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

The standing charge is the bit I despise but cannot do anything about that except go off grid, which is a thought.  Just need my own mini gas powered generation set.

Just get rid of gas appliances and go heat pump. Get bigger storage battery and more solar PV. Zero-emission off-grid living and travelling. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Intelligent is brilliant.  6 hour cheap vs 4 hours. And by keeping my car SoC low, I can get extra cheap slots and thus whole house consumption gets billed at lower rate. Last bill, I managed to get my electricity usage average out to be 10.17p/kWh  (IO at 7.5p/kWh and 31p/kWh). Before, I can only manage 12-15p/kWh (Go at 7.5p/kWh and 35p/kWh).

 

I'm hoping to get to around 8p/kWh when V2H gets installed, finally got DNO approval and just waiting installation to be booked in. 

 

Currently DD set at £188 per month for me. I like to build up a buffer during summer and adjust downwards in spring. After last bill I had about £350 in credit. I can probably get away with ~£130-150 after I gain home storage. 3 bedroom house with small 2.9 kW-p W-E solar and EV charging total ~15k miles. 

 

Just get rid of gas appliances and go heat pump. Get bigger storage battery and more solar PV. Zero-emission off-grid living and travelling. 

 

Just under 19p per kWh as a combined average but it is the just over 100 kWh at 40p per kWh that adds much to my bill, the 200 kWh at 7.5kWh is very nice and cheap so the bill is £44 for the day time and only £15 for the night ie working out 50p for an average night period and I charge about ten days a month but my charger is only 3.6 kW but the 14 kwh give me over 50 miles added range so happy with that.   It is the over 2000 kwh of gas usage in mid winter that adds up but I suppose I will see gas go below 7p a kwh in October so happy days.

 

Got gas hob as well as gas central heating.  It is cheaper than lecky, or will be this winter, but it is quite dirty of course, even with a new 94% efficient boiler.  

 

Heat pump would only be worth it for me as a partial home fit I am thinking, was even looking at the ECOFLOW WAVE 2.

 

Solar I want to get a solar tracking array for the garden, six panel or bigger, than tracks the sun. 

 

I can then take both the portable heat pump and solar tracking array to my small holding I plan to get up in the Welsh mountains when UK society breaks down.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

9 hours ago, lol-lol said:

 

Just under 19p per kWh as a combined average but it is the just over 100 kWh at 40p per kWh that adds much to my bill, the 200 kWh at 7.5kWh is very nice and cheap so the bill is £44 for the day time and only £15 for the night ie working out 50p for an average night period and I charge about ten days a month but my charger is only 3.6 kW but the 14 kwh give me over 50 miles added range so happy with that.   It is the over 2000 kwh of gas usage in mid winter that adds up but I suppose I will see gas go below 7p a kwh in October so happy days.

 

Got gas hob as well as gas central heating.  It is cheaper than lecky, or will be this winter, but it is quite dirty of course, even with a new 94% efficient boiler.  

 

Heat pump would only be worth it for me as a partial home fit I am thinking, was even looking at the ECOFLOW WAVE 2.

 

Solar I want to get a solar tracking array for the garden, six panel or bigger, than tracks the sun. 

 

I can then take both the portable heat pump and solar tracking array to my small holding I plan to get up in the Welsh mountains when UK society breaks down.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10.2p per kWh here on thelast bill but it was down at 9p the month before. The joys of solar and home battery storage. We are all electric with an ASHP so usage goes up in the winter but it still costs less than gas used to cost us because of Intelligent Octopus

 

5 hours ago, domhnall said:

 

 

10.2p per kWh here on thelast bill but it was down at 9p the month before. The joys of solar and home battery storage. We are all electric with an ASHP so usage goes up in the winter but it still costs less than gas used to cost us because of Intelligent Octopus

 

 

Brother has a large house, new build high up in the Cambridgeshire country side and he is heat pump, under floor heating and its own little room with the heat pump gear, massive hot water tank, chemicals, more cross over valves than some of the ships engine rooms I have worked in but I am try to get him off the big six and over to Octopus Cozy as I thought that was the right tariff for heat pumps but that is when one does not have battery storage.  My humble 4 kwh of electricity storage is all highly portable, as is my solar and I am looking for my next solar generator to add to the bunch.  At least 2 kwh, inverter of 3 kwh upwards and can handle 1 kw of solar.  Be interesting to see the bills after my Octopus tariff change and the cap being introduced for gas but has about £300 in credit and am hoping I can keep my monthly standing order at £125 a month which is plenty cheap and better than last year.

 

Hoping others see the Octopus light and we do not see a repeat of what was reported that about half the people in the UK went for long periods not putting on their heating during last winter as that can have clear negative health outcomes and whilst unit prices are cheap the standing charge is up and it is looking like no £400 help this year like last year. 

 

Wishing I had a TESLA or a vehicle to home setup as that can help, especially on days when you can go a fill you TESLA for free. Must not grumble as filling the Zoe up on overnight tariff, over several nights, is less than a fiver for over 200 miles of range both currently and will be even on 9.5 p per kWh.  Also charging at our new new MER chargers for about 50p a kWh is not too bad compared to 79p per kWh at other places.  

 

Edited 31 August, 20232 yr by lol-lol

8 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Brother has a large house, new build high up in the Cambridgeshire country side and he is heat pump, under floor heating and its own little room with the heat pump gear, massive hot water tank, chemicals, more cross over valves than some of the ships engine rooms I have worked in

 

Chemicals?

 

Did you neglect to mention the swimming pool?

On 31/08/2023 at 11:26, J.R. said:

 

Chemicals?    Did you neglect to mention the swimming pool?

 

Chemicals to stop corrosion I think.

 

BIrmingham's new EV charging hub.  Odd mix of very high power and very low power.  Would have been nice to have some 50s, 22s perhaps.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=nec+charging+hub&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB942GB942&oq=NEC+charging+hub&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j0i390i650l4.4621j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&safe=active&ssui=on#ip=1

 

180 charge points.  

7 kws will be fine when I am attending a show like Multi-modal for a few hours.

 

Yes, it's both a destination and a charging hub. So it makes sense to have more 7 kW units than third of the number 22 kW units. Charge for 6 hours means can drive a fair way away before need a top up.

 

It's like the Oxford Redbridge park and ride. There's 7 kW for parking and rapid charging for people driving on the trunk road needing en-route charging.

 

I'm currently of the opinion that car parks should be blanketed with destination charging. In combination with ultra rapid for en-route charging if the location suits. Pretty much how it's set up at this new charging hub in Birmingham.

Osprey chargers on industrial estate opposite Maygor services near Newport Gwent big thumbs up.

 

Took me a while to figure out best parking position in the parking bay but when did charging started in 20 seconds. Zoe only taking charge at 30 kW but Zoe was already at 65% so understandable. Only took 2.5 kwh of charge in 5 minutes, cost about £1.50, still in credit with Electoverse from their free £10 credit.

 

Subway here so food and loos, i presume.  Do like Osprey chargers.  Six here and plinths for 6 more, with parking spaces already marked out, for when usage jumps up further as EV adoption rapidly increases.