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Hi all,

 

Not done anything in the way of performance upgrades before, but was curious if there were any no-brainers when it came to cost vs performance improvements that didn't cause any insurance issues or whatever. Car feels a little sluggish especially in lower revs and was seeing if this could be improved.

 

Much like I would say getting an SSD is an obvious PC improvement which provides a significant upgrade for not much money.

 

Had a quick look through the forum but it was all a little confusing if you are not much of enthusiast. 

 

Happy to look through any decent guides or whatever if there some available. 

 

Many thanks!

 

 

The 110 TSI engine is something of a gem, after about 10k miles, but does respond very well to being worked. Unlike the wonderful 1.9TDi PD 130 engine, this things thrives on revs. It's not a low-down plugger, it's a mini greyhound, but it does need revs to shine. A look at the power curve tells the story, I think.

 

take it out and give it a sensible thrash......not a total ragging......you won't regret it.

Edited by alltorque
Correction.

If it is a 1.2tsi 110, I am selling a tuning box for it, half the price of new. 

  • 2 weeks later...
On 16/07/2018 at 14:06, Cmdrlaw said:

Hi all,

 

Not done anything in the way of performance upgrades before, but was curious if there were any no-brainers when it came to cost vs performance improvements that didn't cause any insurance issues or whatever. Car feels a little sluggish especially in lower revs and was seeing if this could be improved.

 

Much like I would say getting an SSD is an obvious PC improvement which provides a significant upgrade for not much money.

 

Had a quick look through the forum but it was all a little confusing if you are not much of enthusiast. 

 

Happy to look through any decent guides or whatever if there some available. 

 

Many thanks!

A blue spark box (£175) ups bhp from 110 - 130 

ups torque from 200 to 250 i think and gives about 10% better economy

Im getting one for my redline when i buy it in a few weeks

(you do have to declare it though) 

I found that a Redline with Coil overs/Blue Spark/Sports exhaust and full body wrap with adrian Flux insurance was £385

Compare the meerkat had a best price of £397 for a standard Redline so its actually cheaper to have mods with mod insurance

On 16/07/2018 at 14:06, Cmdrlaw said:

 

 

With the 1.0TSI you don't want too much torque low down in the rev range eg; 1400rpm as with the 1.2TSI. The tiny 3 cylinder 1.0 litre engine wouldn't last long if that were the case. Therefore, the manufacturers have endowed the engine with a torque curve that allows max torque at 2000rpm which is a very sensible area to have it. It produces bmep at revs that can be sustained over big mileages without harming the engine, avoiding compressive wear damage in the cylinders and avoiding turbocharger stress. Ford notably produced it's early 1.0 litre 3 pot eco boost engine with max torque at just 1300rpm. This had the effect of reducing projected engine life to 130,000 miles (Source: Ford Motor Company) and caused some quite significant engine problems for a lot of people. It stressed the turbochargers too causing failures. To achieve what they wanted they needed a bigger turbo. The Skoda engine should last much longer having max torque much further up the rev scale. The only point being, as alltorque is saying, you must rev the engine a bit to get the best out of it. If fitting a tuning box or having a remap, I'd be careful. The engine can be very easily upset and you may find that for only a little increase in power, you get a big drop off in engine life and reliability. I'm guessing your engine would very much be a test rig for aftermarket suppliers of remaps. None of them appears to have a long term review of their maps yet for that engine. I'm just speaking with my engine design and development hat on. I certainly wouldn't touch it until it's covered at least 10k miles, when, you may find you just don't need or want to touch it as it will be producing much more power at that mileage than during the first few thousand miles of it's life, typically between 8-10% more power than over a new engine.  

Very insightfull and certainly something to think about. Your right of course. I tested 1.0 110bhp monte but didnt get chance to open it up. Used to have a hyundai coupe which was plenty powerfull to start with but i got used to it and could have done with more power

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On 16/07/2018 at 14:06, Cmdrlaw said:

Hi all,

 

Not done anything in the way of performance upgrades before, but was curious if there were any no-brainers when it came to cost vs performance improvements that didn't cause any insurance issues or whatever. Car feels a little sluggish especially in lower revs and was seeing if this could be improved.

 

Much like I would say getting an SSD is an obvious PC improvement which provides a significant upgrade for not much money.

 

Had a quick look through the forum but it was all a little confusing if you are not much of enthusiast. 

 

Happy to look through any decent guides or whatever if there some available. 

 

Many thanks!

 

 

Hi,

If you do ever need any help with modified insurance then please feel free to drop me a line.

Regards,

Dan.

36 minutes ago, DAN@ADRIAN FLUX said:

Hi,

If you do ever need any help with modified insurance then please feel free to drop me a line.

Regards,

Dan.

I will do Dan. Ive already got a prelim online quote from Flux (knew about you anyway though BTCC subaru sponsorship and seen Adrian race in the past) current insurance runs out mid november will be lookimg to get bluespark on then and make a start

13 hours ago, Estate Man said:

With the 1.0TSI you don't want too much torque low down in the rev range eg; 1400rpm as with the 1.2TSI. The tiny 3 cylinder 1.0 litre engine wouldn't last long if that were the case. Therefore, the manufacturers have endowed the engine with a torque curve that allows max torque at 2000rpm which is a very sensible area to have it. It produces bmep at revs that can be sustained over big mileages without harming the engine, avoiding compressive wear damage in the cylinders and avoiding turbocharger stress. Ford notably produced it's early 1.0 litre 3 pot eco boost engine with max torque at just 1300rpm. This had the effect of reducing projected engine life to 130,000 miles (Source: Ford Motor Company) and caused some quite significant engine problems for a lot of people. It stressed the turbochargers too causing failures. To achieve what they wanted they needed a bigger turbo. The Skoda engine should last much longer having max torque much further up the rev scale. The only point being, as alltorque is saying, you must rev the engine a bit to get the best out of it. If fitting a tuning box or having a remap, I'd be careful. The engine can be very easily upset and you may find that for only a little increase in power, you get a big drop off in engine life and reliability. I'm guessing your engine would very much be a test rig for aftermarket suppliers of remaps. None of them appears to have a long term review of their maps yet for that engine. I'm just speaking with my engine design and development hat on. I certainly wouldn't touch it until it's covered at least 10k miles, when, you may find you just don't need or want to touch it as it will be producing much more power at that mileage than during the first few thousand miles of it's life, typically between 8-10% more power than over a new engine.  

 

My goodness - Brake Mean Effective Pressure - I haven't come across that term for least 40 years! Bet everyone would struggle to find it on t'internet.

 

Certainly not common usage now. Do I remember this correctly as where the torque curve and horse power curves intersect giving maximum acceleration as a guide to the power of the engine (as a broad yardstick)? Or perhaps as I never needed to use that in my career I have forgotten entirely and that time in college was wasted :nerd:.

 

Bill :)

Edited by lawnmowerman

Hi lawnmower man, I loved you in that horro film! :D

 

Yes, there's plenty on t'internet about bmep. I sometimes slip back into engine design and development mode. Sorry! Yes, BMEP can describe several things but broadly you are right in what you are saying depending on what information you are trying to extract. BMEP can often be the place where max torque is produced, thus the pressure in the cylinders is at it's highest. BMEP is rarely at max hp unless it's a very highly tuned race engine where max torque and max hp are almost one. Torque is the engines actual power, HP is a description of how quickly the engine can produce that power. Folks often get this wrong and so don't understand BMEP. BMEP is the point where the engine is usually under the most stress, where compressive wear can take place. 

Max torque at max power engine revs, ah in average road car terms you must be talking about Ford’s 1600 GT version of their Kent engine circa 1976/78, had one of them, no point in changing up a gear going up quite a few hills, that just lead to the engine “going flat”, so the plan was to just live with the extra engine noise until conditions changed!

 

Edit:- I remember running tests on a gas engine in uni and generating bmep graphs.

Edited by rum4mo

10 hours ago, Estate Man said:

Hi lawnmower man, I loved you in that horro film! :D

 

Yes, there's plenty on t'internet about bmep. I sometimes slip back into engine design and development mode. Sorry! Yes, BMEP can describe several things but broadly you are right in what you are saying depending on what information you are trying to extract. BMEP can often be the place where max torque is produced, thus the pressure in the cylinders is at it's highest. BMEP is rarely at max hp unless it's a very highly tuned race engine where max torque and max hp are almost one. Torque is the engines actual power, HP is a description of how quickly the engine can produce that power. Folks often get this wrong and so don't understand BMEP. BMEP is the point where the engine is usually under the most stress, where compressive wear can take place. 

 

I'd forgotten about that film! Let's just say that moniker reflects more accurately how I am enumerated now. i say to all involved in the retail motor industry - GET OUT NOW and regain your sanity.

 

I bailed out over 20 years ago and have never been happier. Have been to Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Italy and Netherlands many times. Also Atlanta, Savannah and Virginia Beach. All in the name of 'research' courtesy of my 'new' trade.

 

In the Motor Trade furthest was Cowley, Solihull, Crewe and (exceptionally) the Bahamas. I know what I prefer.

 

Thanks for your kindness over my slightly flaky memory. Started off with City & Guilds Full Tech Certificate then Tech Eng with CEI, then Institute of the Motor Industry (through examination. Leading to M.I.M.I. Was Vice President of local SMTA branch.

 

Trouble is the Industry has gone backwards - there were never any customer facing service staff who did not have a background in the dirty stuff anywhere I worked. Sure they were supported by admin staff but they seem to have taken over now - sad times for us all.

 

Bill :)

10 hours ago, rum4mo said:

Max torque at max power engine revs, ah in average road car terms you must be talking about Ford’s 1600 GT version of their Kent engine circa 1976/78, had one of them, no point in changing up a gear going up quite a few hills, that just lead to the engine “going flat”, so the plan was to just live with the extra engine noise until conditions changed!

 

Edit:- I remember running tests on a gas engine in uni and generating bmep graphs.

 

Ah, a fellow engineer!...tests...love tests! Spent much of my life doing tests on stuff, and breaking stuff then fixing it and breaking it again! 

 

13 minutes ago, lawnmowerman said:

 

I'd forgotten about that film! Let's just say that moniker reflects more accurately how I am enumerated now. i say to all involved in the retail motor industry - GET OUT NOW and regain your sanity.

 

I bailed out over 20 years ago and have never been happier. Have been to Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Italy and Netherlands many times. Also Atlanta, Savannah and Virginia Beach. All in the name of 'research' courtesy of my 'new' trade.

 

In the Motor Trade furthest was Cowley, Solihull, Crewe and (exceptionally) the Bahamas. I know what I prefer.

 

Thanks for your kindness over my slightly flaky memory. Started off with City & Guilds Full Tech Certificate then Tech Eng with CEI, then Institute of the Motor Industry (through examination. Leading to M.I.M.I. Was Vice President of local SMTA branch.

 

Trouble is the Industry has gone backwards - there were never any customer facing service staff who did not have a background in the dirty stuff anywhere I worked. Sure they were supported by admin staff but they seem to have taken over now - sad times for us all.

 

Bill :)

 

And another engineer....great stuff!

 

Yes got to agree about the sliding backwards of customer facing staff. But not everywhere. Mostly I've found the service staff to be quite on the ball at my local Skoda dealer, but I know that doesn't happen everywhere. 

  • 3 weeks later...
On 30/07/2018 at 21:58, DAN@ADRIAN FLUX said:

Hi,

If you do ever need any help with modified insurance then please feel free to drop me a line.

Regards,

Dan.

Hi Dan

 

Im looking to change to modified insurance mid September

Booked in for custom stainless exhaust and getting a stage 1 remap a few days later

(someone i knew had insurance through Flux a couple of years ago and had a policy were they could do pretty much most things as long as declared for same price is this still an option)?

what is the best way to set up the insurance? though you or just phone the Adrian Flux number?

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9 hours ago, Pumbajunior said:

Hi Dan

 

Im looking to change to modified insurance mid September

Booked in for custom stainless exhaust and getting a stage 1 remap a few days later

(someone i knew had insurance through Flux a couple of years ago and had a policy were they could do pretty much most things as long as declared for same price is this still an option)?

what is the best way to set up the insurance? though you or just phone the Adrian Flux number?

 

Hi there,

 

Thanks for the message and yes we are able to cover those modifications and in certain cases we have an insurer who will enable you to continue to add non-performance enhancing mods at no extra cost. 

 

The best thing to do is give us a call on our Briskoda.net number which should be in our section on this forum.

 

Feel free to return to me to discuss any matters.

 

Regards,


Dan

 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, DAN@ADRIAN FLUX said:

 

 

Hi there,

 

Thanks for the message and yes we are able to cover those modifications and in certain cases we have an insurer who will enable you to continue to add non-performance enhancing mods at no extra cost. 

 

The best thing to do is give us a call on our Briskoda.net number which should be in our section on this forum.

 

Feel free to return to me to discuss any matters.

 

Regards,


Dan

 

 

 

 

is that this number? do i need to quote BRISkoda?

0800 369 8590

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Hi there,

 

No I believe the number is as follows - 0800 587 6304.

 

Yes during the quotation you will be asked if you are part of an owners club/forum - I would mention it at the outset once your are  passed from our reception to a quotes person.

 

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.


Regards,

 

Dan

 

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