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Hi guys,

 

This is a real strange one that happened to me while driving my Octavia mk3 today. 

 

Its an automatic 2015, diesel 1.6. 

 

While driving doing 40mph on a dual carriageway, I had the air con on and with no warning lights or anything at all the car begins to slow down. 

 

I was pushing down on the accelerator but nothing, no revs on the revs counter. I checked the gear stick to see if I accidentally pushed it into nutrual but it was in drive.

 

This forced me to come to a complete stand still with hazards on. 

 

I turned the ignition off, waited 3 seconds, turned it back on and everything was fine. 

 

All I kept thinking if I was on a motorway and this happened, blimey carnage!! 

 

I will book it for a full investigation but has anyone ever experienced this? Or have an idea of what it could be?

 

cheers guys 

Sorry no idea, but usually the DQ200 DSG issue does not stop the engine revving, just drive is lost.

 

The World Wide recall from 2012/13 which was not a recall in Europe because VW got the DVSA to beleive that loss of drive was not a Safety Critical Issue is as you know rubbish.

So that does not apply to your Mk3 Octavia.  Service Campaign '34F7'.

 

But '34H5' from 2013-2015 might apply to your DSG, a Software Update.

Have you been told about that, and was it carried out on your car?

 

 

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Thanks for the reply.

 

I definitely was not told about such update!!! Who do I contact to find out further details? The dealer I bought my car from has now closed down. 

From what you are saying the engine just lost power and went down to idle revs so that when you stopped the car was still ticking over?

The throttle does not have any sort of physical linkage these days and operate with position sensors and ECU control over how much/when fuel is pumped into the cylinder. Which is why turning off and on again, effectively rebooting the system worked.

If you do not have the tools yourself you should go to a dealer/specialist asap to see if what error codes may have been recorded for the incident.

 

 

Edited by Gerrycan

Any Skoda Main Dealership can check if your car is part of a Service Campaign, or there are TPI's on your vehicle.

or ask Skoda UK CS if your car is part of the Service Campaign Recall Action for DQ200 DSG from 2013-2015.  Or any other Recall Actions.

http://skoda.co.uk/about-us/contact-us 

 

Not all Service Campaigns / Recall Actions do show here which really is not 'Simply Clever' it is ridiculous.

http://master.skoda-auto.com/mini-apps/recall-actions 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/425424-2017-another-dq200-7-speed-dsg-service-campaign 

Edited by Offski

I had the same thing happen to mine, had it taken to dealers for investigation and they found a couple of engine codes in the ecu, which meant they had to strip the fuel system down and check every thing, no faults found they put it down to some bad fuel.  I don’t know if that’s the case but not long before the fuel filter had been changed, and according to a few diesel mechanics I know if they didn’t bleed the fuel system properly this was most likely the cause, and them fully dismantling and reassembling the fuel system would have made them have to bleed it all again.

 

i would get the car scanned for any error codes

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Thank you all for all your input. I will take it down to a main Skoda dealership. I do hope they find the fault as today I was cautious driving my little beast! 

 

Would a carista diagnostic box find the fault if I connect it? I have one I used to use with my Fabia.

 

If it is OBD port scanner, most likely it will be able to read errors, or at least error code which you can later on Google to see what is it related to. 

 

Universal OBD scanner with appropriate application on your phone may be able to read the codes. I've playing around with my old Alfa with Torque Pro and it worked. Cheap combo, bluetooth OBD was maybe 5€, Torque Pro I've bought I don't know how little, a few bucks for the license.

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I have tried my Carista OBD, it reaches to 30% and it says no faults found. I guess it will have to be a trip to the skoda dealer.

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On 06/09/2018 at 08:43, Gadget007 said:

I had the same thing happen to mine, had it taken to dealers for investigation and they found a couple of engine codes in the ecu, which meant they had to strip the fuel system down and check every thing, no faults found they put it down to some bad fuel.  I don’t know if that’s the case but not long before the fuel filter had been changed, and according to a few diesel mechanics I know if they didn’t bleed the fuel system properly this was most likely the cause, and them fully dismantling and reassembling the fuel system would have made them have to bleed it all again.

 

i would get the car scanned for any error codes

Wow!! How much did it cost you in the end for the repair?

When you say no revs on the rev counter, do you mean the engine had stopped and the car had gone into neutral?

Edited by SuperbTWM

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11 hours ago, SuperbTWM said:

When you say no revs on the rev counter, do you mean the engine had stopped and the car had gone into neutral?

Yeah it’s as if the engine stopped but it was on as everything was on was on, lights, dashboard display, infotainment. Just no revs at all. I pushed down on accelerator, nothing, gear was in drive the car was just slowing down till it came to a complete stop. 

Do not mess about trying this or that or reading Fault Codes.  If you are certain what happened then it is a 'Safety Critical issue',  Use your Warranty, if you do not go to a Dealership to have it sorted / diagnosed and sorted and it happens again and you survive and any passengers or innocent road users survive, then call 'Skoda Assist', 

get their responder out, car recovered, courtesy car provided and your car at a Dealers until the fault is resolved.

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On 08/09/2018 at 09:15, Offski said:

Do not mess about trying this or that or reading Fault Codes.  If you are certain what happened then it is a 'Safety Critical issue',  Use your Warranty, if you do not go to a Dealership to have it sorted / diagnosed and sorted and it happens again and you survive and any passengers or innocent road users survive, then call 'Skoda Assist', 

get their responder out, car recovered, courtesy car provided and your car at a Dealers until the fault is resolved.

My Octavia has just fun out of the three year warranty in June! It isn’t covered by warranty :-( I rang dealership and they will do a diagnostic test and if they find faults they will call me

Out of Warranty will not matter if there is some fundamental fault, software, accelerator fault,

if it was something like bad fuel then it might cost you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 08/09/2018 at 00:26, true247spartan said:

Wow!! How much did it cost you in the end for the repair?

 

 

cost nothing, the dealer put it through as a warranty repair,  as there were two codes in the ecu and Skoda had a technical bulletin regarding those two codes (bulletin relates to fuel pump failure)

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Just been speaking to a friend who is loves cars and if he could he would marry one......

 

He suggested that the DPF could be full of s***e. I should take it out for a hard run on the motorway to clean it out.

 

Any thoughts?

Normally the car will give clear indicators (dashboard lights come on etc) if the DPF is that clogged and by then you would have to go to the dealers/VW specialist for a forced regen.

If it got that bad that the car went into 'limp' mode then that is just reduced performance as opposed to the dangerous total loss of revs you experienced.

If you do a lot of short journeys I think you would be aware if the engine was continually trying to perform a regen from the smell and increased revs.

The 'Italian tune-up' prescribed by your friend can be beneficial in some circumstances.

Probably would have helped everyone if you had offered more information up front such as car mileage, your usual driving profile (short or long journeys/traffic/speed), maybe your average fuel consumption (can be an indicator of issues if poor) if known. Also not clear whether you have a manual car or a DSG auto or when last serviced.

 

I assumed earlier that when you had to pull over was the engine continuing to idle ok. Was that actually the case or had the engine stopped completely.

Someone else asked for clarification on that point as well.

 

Have you been to someone to scan for error codes yet? 

Edited by Gerrycan

As above, you would have lots of warning about the DPF before it got to a condition where it was completely blocked & the car wouldnt run.

I would be more inclined to think its a DSG issue either SW or physical

 

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oooooops!!! My bad! :)

 

My dislexia doesnt help when it comes to reading. 

 

There is 34k on the clock, is diesel DSG 1.6. last serviced nearly a year. I usually do 14 miles a day peak time driving so there is a lot of start stop going on in my journeys. The car is booked in on Monday for a Diagnostic with a Skoda main dealer. I spoke to the dealer on the phone and he told me it isnt part of the recall skoda service. 

 

Hope this info helps out guys.

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